He's not kidding Drew. The make their own cartomizers and have 'em filled by little elves like the keebler cookie ones.
KR808 carts are inconsistent. That's why you might like a batch from one supplier and not the other. They came from the same factory, just a different batch.
Read some comments about the *superior* V4L cartomizers from some loyal customers. Good for a laugh anyways:
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/vapor4life/42171-little-concerned.html
Oh for pete's sake, give it a rest why don't you? Yes, Steve had some issues with a batch of cartomizers, and Drew recently went through the same BS with his GreenCig carts, what is your point? You don't see me out here lambasting Drew for that screw up do you? And I won't either. Drew is a stand up guy and he is working to correct the issue. Just like Steve. So why all the V4L bashing?
Every supplier here has had issues with their stock at one time or another, and it is only to be expected as part of the growing pains with any new business. It is how you deal with those issues that counts. Both Drew and Steve have done nothing but try to correct the issues they have faced, yet Steve is being singled out for one bad round? Tell me in what world that makes any sense at all?
With all the other BS that vapers are dealing with attacking each other for issues we all face is pointless. This is not a Steve verses Drew issue, there are no cults or cheerleaders or fanboys, we are all in this together to hold on to something we all feel made a difference in our lives. United we stand, divided we fall.
Certainly you are free to post your thoughts, ideas, and contributions but why not let everyone else have theirs. Every person on this board is immanently capable of digging into a sub-forum and checking out the suppliers response to issues, as well as all the positive reviews. Do we really need to go digging out the one off issues?
You guys attacking V4L are putting several of us who love Nhaler as well in a bad spot. Every time you drag out something negative about V4L, we could equally find a post just as bad about Drew. But none of that solves anything. All any of it does is discourage and further confuse folks who are already on the fence about vaping. This turf war, or whatever it is, has gotten completely out of hand.
Every company here blasts that they have the best juice, the best device, the best flavor, the best whatever...they are supposed to, they believe in their products and want to sell them. Attacks on Steve and anyone who actually enjoys their VK seem to be just to rile up the folks who like their Vks. I just don't understand why?
Why does it bother folks that some of us really love our Vapor Kings? Why does it bother anyone that we believe in the product and use it and therefor recommend it for others? The more folks we have vaping - the better off we all are. Why do any of you care so much if folks vape a VK or a KR808D-1 from Drew? Why aren't we all sticking together to help the next new person find whatever device/juice that is needed to get them off the analogs?
Come on folks, let's pull it together. Drop the trolling, flame wars, and attacks. We all need to focus our collective passion on the real enemies in this battle, or has everyone forgotten that the FDA is trying to shut us all down? There is a devil here, and it is not our much beloved suppliers. We would all do very well to remember that. We get closer to protecting our rights to vape with every analog conversion. Stop worrying so much about
which PV folks use and start focusing on
that they use a PV in the first place.