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sailorman

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Honestly the question should be LT vs Ego twist because it seems the main argument is about cost. The ego twist is regulated unlike the LT. I got one for about $22. It has a decent amp limit (from my own test) of about 2.5. I also a have a provari and it is second to none. The provari is physically built with precision and durability. Once you get used to regulated voltage (which the lava tube doesnt have) it is hard to go back.

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The main argument isn't just cost. If you're comparing apples to apples, you have to figure the cost of 2 Twists to 1 LT.
In that respect, they're nearly the same, except that a LT battery has at least 2 or 3 times the capacity of a Twist battery.

As for regulation, there is some voltage drop once the battery of the LT gets below about 3.7V. Above that, or even 3.5V, it's barely noticeable, if at all. And one push of the + button pretty much fixes it instantly.

But I vape for at least 6-8 hours or more on my LT and swap the battery when it gets to 3.8 volts. I notice no voltage drop at all and still get as much vape time as I'd get with a Twist.

There's a lot more advantages to the LT over the Twist than there are for the Provari over the LT.
If you're comparing the LT to the Provari, you're comparing a $50 VV kit with a $200 VV kit.
You have to decide if the advantages are worth the 400% price difference.

Not so with the Twist and LT. With that matchup, you are talking about major significant differences. The only advantage the Twist has is with the regulation, and that's pretty minor when it can be compensated for so easily and doesn't even become noticeable before the Twist's battery would be dead anyway.

At any rate, it's unfair to try to compare one LT with one Twist. So the price difference is negligible. The lifespan, vaping duration, warranty, voltage range, size/capacity ratio, features like battery and voltage indicator and long term operating costs are all far more disparate between the Twist and LT than they are between the LT and the Provari.

It's an easier decision to choose between an LT and a pair of Twists than it is to choose between an LT and a Provari.

That said, if a Twist had a passthrough and/or wasn't so big for its capacity and/or took replaceable batteries, it would be a closer matchup. Voltage range aside, the biggest problems with the Twist are its disposable nature and the fact that, if you want to use a Twist, you need two of them.
 
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I think the Provari and the Lava Tube are both worth their price. I have seen a few PVs that I think are over priced but the Provari is not one of them. Even if you do buy a LT and notice the limits you are not likely to be that upset about it because you didn't invest a lot in it. I think it's a win either way. VV is a wonderful vaping tool. I had the SS V tube on preorder with Apollo when I just could not wait any longer. I wanted metal so I ordered a Provari. Within days I sold my other 3 mods and bought another Provari for back up. I love it so much that I wanted to be sure that I would never be without one in my hand. I think it's worth 159.95 and up and would recommend it to anyone willing to pay that price. If not I would recommend the lava tube. I really wanted to collect mods but for now the Provari is where it's at for me.
 

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The main argument isn't just cost. If you're comparing apples to apples, you have to figure the cost of 2 Twists to 1 LT.
In that respect, they're nearly the same, except that a LT battery has at least 2 or 3 times the capacity of a Twist battery.

As for regulation, there is some voltage drop once the battery of the LT gets below about 3.7V. Above that, or even 3.5V, it's barely noticeable, if at all. And one push of the + button pretty much fixes it instantly.

But I vape for at least 6-8 hours or more on my LT and swap the battery when it gets to 3.8 volts. I notice no voltage drop at all and still get as much vape time as I'd get with a Twist.

There's a lot more advantages to the LT over the Twist than there are for the Provari over the LT.
If you're comparing the LT to the Provari, you're comparing a $50 VV kit with a $200 VV kit.
You have to decide if the advantages are worth the 400% price difference.

Not so with the Twist and LT. With that matchup, you are talking about major significant differences. The only advantage the Twist has is with the regulation, and that's pretty minor when it can be compensated for so easily and doesn't even become noticeable before the Twist's battery would be dead anyway.

At any rate, it's unfair to try to compare one LT with one Twist. So the price difference is negligible. The lifespan, vaping duration, warranty, voltage range, size/capacity ratio, features like battery and voltage indicator and long term operating costs are all far more disparate between the Twist and LT than they are between the LT and the Provari.

It's an easier decision to choose between an LT and a pair of Twists than it is to choose between an LT and a Provari.

That said, if a Twist had a passthrough and/or wasn't so big for its capacity and/or took replaceable batteries, it would be a closer matchup. Voltage range aside, the biggest problems with the Twist are its disposable nature and the fact that, if you want to use a Twist, you need two of them.

The argument can be twist several ways so I think this is all subjective. Also the prices you mentioned seem stretched out a bit.

Where is the lavatube $50? I see them new for $69.99 for the device only, no battery, nothing else. The provari is only $159.95 or $179.90 if you want the extended battery cap. So how about at least lets say 257% price difference instead of an over exaggerate 400%.
 

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The argument can be twist several ways so I think this is all subjective. Also the prices you mentioned seem stretched out a bit.

Where is the lavatube $50? I see them new for $69.99 for the device only, no battery, nothing else. The provari is only $159.95 or $179.90 if you want the extended battery cap. So how about at least lets say 257% price difference instead of an over exaggerate 400%.

Vtube (Lavatube) Full kit, free shipping, one year warranty. $50 aluminum, $60 chrome, $73 stainless steel.
Discount code Vtube30, good untill stock is gone.
Apollo VTube Kit

Aluminum model, tube only comes out to about $35 shipped.

Provari, with batteries and charger will come to about $190, without extension cap.

O.K. 385%. I rounded off.

Regarding the Twist, the fact that it's disposable is not subjective.
The fact that it's bigger than any other device of similar capacity is not subjective.
The fact that it has a limited voltage range is not subjective.
The fact that you need two of them for uninterrupted use is not subjective.
The fact that no Twist will have a year warranty is not subjective.
The fact that for a pair of Twists, you'll pay as much as a Vtube is not subjective.

Only whether or not any of that matters to you is subjective.
 
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