I Give Up On E-Cigs For Now

[CNYC]

I've been vaping for roughly 3 weeks now and its been great up until now. Not one craving for an analog but not without side effects.

First of all I admit that I was never addicted to nicotine. I use cigarettes when I drink or when I travel internationally. When I return from a trip it usually takes me a week to wean myself of of them. Once I accomplish that I do not have a craving for them unless I drink or go on another trip.

I thought maybe instead of analogs I'd be doing myself a favor by using an E-Cig but now I question that idea.

WHY ?

I've been vaping non stop for 3 weeks. From what I understand you shouldn't get into this type of pattern. If you're using it for nicotine cessation then you take one or two vapes and walk away from it until you REALLY need it again. knowing this diminished the fun aspect of it for me. I was never addicted to nicotine I just like smoking at times. If I can't smoke more (by vaping) then what purpose does it serve me ? Not much.


It's been fun trying all the different flavors and playing with my new toy. I liken it to choosing a pair of sneakers or playing with your xmas gifts. The problem is I began to vape too often and I didn't realize the toxic effect that too much nicotine too fast can do to you. I've been feeling dizzy/vertigo all day up until an hour or two ago. I've been noticing it for a while but it didn't reach the tipping point until today. After 16 hours of feeling this way without vaping I called the 24/7 nurse on the back of my health insurance card for advice. I seriously didn't know if I needed detox or not. I've never gotten into trouble this way with cigs before.

I was on a 12mg juice which another pack a day smoker told me was too much for him as was 6mg. He advised me to buy 0mg juice and mix it with the 6mg to produce a 3mg juice. I had some hope at that point but the more research I did the more I found posts regarding sensitivity to the other ingredients used besides the nicotine like VG or PG. I know very little about those two ingredients and from what I've read I have doubts whether or not I should start ingesting them. Especially when I am not addicted to nicotine.

So my conclusion is (regarding myself) -

I would become a chain vapor which could have serious consequences for me from ingesting an abundance of nicotine. Going to a 0mg juice and vaping that all day still leaves me dealing with the other chemicals that could prove to be just as damaging or maybe I am sensitive to them. Either way Either/Or would make me not feel well so why do it ?

Too bad because it's a great little device which works but not without side effects ***IMO. If I was truly a nicotine addict and couldn't breath or had other smoking related illnesses maybe I would be a little more inspired to try different approaches but I am not.

As I write this I can smell the residue of my E-Juice ( a honey plastic smell) which somehow remained on my desk even though I haven't vaped all day.

This is just one man's trial and error. Take what you want from it but I felt obliged to write about my experiences with the E-Cig.


I hope this helps someone trying to decide if E-Cigs are right for them or not.

 

[Kryyptyk]

Oh yeah, if you don't even really smoke, then I can't say that you should vape. Nicotine usage builds up tolerance to higher mg juices, so I'm not surprised that you were feeling supercharged. Just out of curiosity, what brand of juice were you using, and what setup?

 

[Huckleberried]

If you're not really a smoker, then yeah, may as well leave it. Or just keep the 0mg on hand for those times when you'd normally have a social cigarette or two.

The main ingredients are found in many foods, inhalers, air systems (like hospitals)........ much safer than a cigarette.

 

[k702]

You seem intent on letting everyone know you were never addicted, but you say you were a pack a day smoker. PG and VG both come in what you were already vaping. You should listen to your friends advice if you want to vape. 0 nic can be vaped as well, doesn't come with the lightheadedness over nic-ing can. To each their own but threads like this confuse me. Whatever you do, you shouldn't go back to the cigarettes on trips and whenever you were smoking before

 

[CNYC]

Oh yeah, if you don't even really smoke, then I can't say that you should vape. Nicotine usage builds up tolerance to higher mg juices, so I'm not surprised that you were feeling supercharged. Just out of curiosity, what brand of juice were you using, and what setup?

Sorry but I don't think it is fair to mention the company name. I would hate for somebody to avoid the company solely because of what they read on this thread. Especially since most E-Cigs share a lot in common.

 

[CNYC]

You seem intent on letting everyone know you were never addicted, but you say you were a pack a day smoker.

My friend who advised me to cut the 6mg juice down with the 0mg juice is/was a pack a day smoker. Sorry you misunderstood that from my post.

Some people are casual smokers and some are addicted. I wanted to identify myself as a casual smoker so that other casual smokers would be able to relate to what I was saying.

 

[CNYC]

The main ingredients are found in many foods, inhalers, air systems (like hospitals)........ much safer than a cigarette.

Also read somewhere that the ingredient used to make the vape cloud is also used in smoke machines at nigthclubs. Dizziness can be a side effect from it....so I've read.

 

[Huckleberried]

Even some vapers still have the occasional smoke now and then. I'm just glad I don't have to anymore. Of course, I wasn't the occasional smoker, so I'm so happy I have this now.

 

[jensy]

I am confused as well with your post , but whatever. What I do not like to hear is you saying the substances that are in ejuice are damaging. I think there is a whole lot of info out there that would beg to differ . This is the sort of hoopla that gets out there and fuels are the ANTZ. There is so much info on this forum alone that could have helped you understand the nicotine amount that you were taking in was too much for the sort of smoker you were.

Anyways my point is please don't spout off false reports of the dangers of e cigarette juice when you are consuming the same ingredients in everyday life but you just don't know, meaning pg/vg and flavors.

 

[Huckleberried]

Also read somewhere that the ingredient used to make the vape cloud is also used in smoke machines at nigthclubs. Dizziness can be a side effect from it....so I've read.

From fog machines? Never heard that before. Not disputing, just saying.

PG is in some mouthwashes, toothpastes even. I just know that I've read that the ingredients are GRAS. "Generally recognized as safe."

 

[CNYC]

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Wow people are really misreading what I had to say. I jumped into 12mg because I thought *MEDIUM would be a safe place to start. My friend who smokes a pack a day wasn't contacted by me until today.

What I should have done is researched a little more before I purchased my E- Cig. I own up to that mistake but since then I've done plenty more research so lighten up pal.

Don't flame me for simply writing about my experience. It's rude.

 

[k702]

Also read somewhere that the ingredient used to make the vape cloud is also used in smoke machines at nigthclubs. Dizziness can be a side effect from it....so I've read.

In some people. Not nearly everyone. In this case I would say he used too much nic too quick. Body wasn't use to it and rejected it. Happened with my girl. She has a few bottles of 3 and 6 nic I mixed up for her now, loves em

 

[CNYC]

I am confused as well with your post

Anyways my point is please don't spout off false reports of the dangers of e cigarette juice .

Well noted.

Nothing is false about my report. I will state again that I am simply relating MY experiences with the E-Cig. I know very little about what else is inside these cigs but THIS is how ***I feel about my experiences.

Notice that I don't mention the company when asked what E-Cig I have BECAUSE I don't think it would be fair.

At least be fair with me in return.

 

[Mailablemage]

I think everyone needs to calm down a bit. If he doesnt want to cape any more then he doesnt have to. No reason to get up in arms about it. I wish you luck man. Stay off those cigs!

 

[03FXDWG]

Make your own liquid and you'll know exactly what goes into it. You would have been better served by taking your smoking friend's advice. A social smoker doesn't need the nicotine but overdosing on it just makes you dizzy and nauseous--maybe a little ringing in your ears. That means put it down and do something else for a while--same as chain-smokers have to do.

1. Propylene Glycol--fog machines, asthma inhalers, some intravenous medicines, most flavor extracts, tooth paste, HVAC systems in large buildings where the windows don't open to control airborne germs.
2. Vegetable Glycerin--cake icing, suppositories, natural soaps, uncountable foods for thickening and slightly sweet.
3. Food grade flavorings.
4. Optional--extracted nicotine in a PG or VG base--same stuff used in nicotine gum, nicotine patches & nicotine inhalers.

Oh, and all of the above ingredients are FDA approved in some way--just not when combined all together and put in a device that the politicians haven't figured out how to make any money off of yet.

 

[Elizabeth Baldwin]

There is only 4 ingredients in Vape liquid.

Nicotine.

PG

VG

Flavoring

Both propylene glycol and vegetable glycerin are non-toxic organic compounds and generally considered safe for consumption. In fact, they are widely used as food additives in a variety of commercially available products.

The same ingredient used in these big fog machines are used because it produces a vapor... Whatever else these machines/foggers use is questionable. The very same ingredient is approved for inhalers for asthma and approved by the FDA as safe.

Flavoring... Food grade.

All four ingredients are water soluble.

Compared to cigarettes which contain over 2000 toxins including tar its a no brainier as to which is safer.

If you weren't a regular smoker you should have started out at 0mg...

People in our group get very sensitive to people claiming vaping is dangerous or unhealthy because many of us see results... Better breathing, can climb stairs without losing breath, more energy, feel 100 times better (if we aren't overdosing on nic that is)...

Even some of our doctors ask how our health has improved drastically. When they realize its ecigs/vaping that has brought about the health change they are happy and encourage it.

Common sense tells us which is safer... Tar and toxins or food grade materials....

 

[rurwin]

The constituents of eliquid are VG, PG and nicotine.

Some people are allergic to PG. The symptoms are coughing and a sore throat, maybe swollen lips.
There are no reports of any reaction to VG.
The symptoms of nicotine over-dose are nausea and dizziness, just like you are experiencing.

You are consuming too much nicotine, so you need to cut down on the vaping or reduce the amount of nicotine in the liquid.

Like ballet and sky-diving, vaping is something the body is not designed to do. You need to weigh up the enjoyment you get against the danger to your body. Ballet dancers wreck their feet and sky-divers risk their lives with every jump. Compared to those, vaping is relatively benign; I am satisfied there are no short-term effects beyond allergies or over-dose. Medium-term -- six months to two years -- has been covered by animal studies and by user experience. Long-term is an open question; nicotine is not carcinogenic, PG and VG likewise, but there may be unforeseen problems twenty or forty years down the line. You need to decide whether your enjoyment and avoiding the risk from cigarettes is worth the risks from vaping. For a long-term smoker, this one at least, the answer is an unequivocal, yes. Your choice may be different.

 

[Hulamoon]

Plus 1 on too much nicotine for your body. As you're only an occasional smoker, I'd say to let that go altogether while you're still in a "I can take it or leave it" position People like me can vape 24-36 mg all day long with no problem. Others may take a vape or two and leave it at that. Nicotine is addictive, but then I love eggplant and tomatoes too.

 

[TheJakeBailey]

Wow! Slow down kids. I think the ops post made it clear that he already knows his nic concentration was too high, and what the components of E- liquid are. To me, he basically said that as he wasn't a regular smoker and found himself vaping way more than he smoked to begin with, so why bother. And while we all agree (I think) that vaping is far safer than smoking, the op is correct in saying that nobody really knows the long term effects. This hasn't been around long enough to really find out. If I was not a smoker to begin with, I wouldn't be here either.

Now I don't know why the op felt that this was important info to post, but so be it. If he's moving on from vaping for whatever reason, OK. Best of luck to you op. If you find yourself smoking more than you used to, you know where to go.

 

[Virtual Life]

OP, I also do not agree with bashing your post. I almost didn't reply at all but feel I must to say that.

Now that I am here I will add that I also tried to duplicate the smoking experience with vaping and have come the conclusion that while it is a satisfactory replacement for me, it cannot match the smoking experience. But after 38 years of smoking I am SO VERY HAPPY to be able to breath again.

If I could have put them away as you describe then I may have never started vaping.