I hate this Magma

[crxess]

I promise you its a MAGMA, not a manga, namga or a patriot that says magma on the side, I would not waste your time like that.. The 3/32 air holes were drilled in my helios, which I was describing in the same sentence.

I inspected the air holes, no obstruction. Im entertaining the option of widening the airholes, but im not sure I should work so hard to love this beast.

Waiting and reading - No examples of builds and no Pics to assist. After more expressions from Op, I am of the belief the builds are the least of the problem.
The Expectations are, or seem to be, set in stone. Kind of an - I want it this way!!! I don't care if it isn't designed for that!!! I Want it.

Well Pauly, I have an answer - It will permanently change the Magma and NO going back, but you can have your wish. I've already seen it done.



Research usually pays off

 

[TCombinator]

I can't believe you guys are discussing this without pictures. For all I know, there is cotton bedding under the coils! I'm out of this. No offense to OP, this is waste of time. Drill it, man.

 

[LA-Vapite]

Magma has always ben known as a leaker - check older threads
Adding an o-ring under the AFC will stop most of that as well as stop the AFC from moving every time you re drip
I compare the draw with the orchid RBA and they are very similar.
.4 dual in a mech or single coil at 1.0 on a box mod at 50 w seems to be my sweet spots
But the Magma is where the flavor is.

Now -
I have 2 Vape Jam rda's, that have almost the same flavor with more air, so I have stuck with those as my favorite rda for flavor
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVPzF7IPUhU
(I like GMO's reviews)
I have the clones. which have performed well

Love the plume and CLTv2, but those are for fruit juices only and when I want more clouds.

 

[AndriaD]

Oh, I would also say.....

The Magma is such an easy build but I would advise those using microcoils to set them at a slight angle and off central aiming towards the drip well, so that anytime the user goes for a 'blue whale' inhale and pulls up excess juice, it will drip back down into the drip well and not into the airhole thereby leaking out externally via the AFC ring.

As far as single coil builds go Andria, my current Magma build is an 'accidental' 2 ohm single coil which I find more than adequate vapourwise and typically Magma flavoursome, so it will stay until my new stock of wire arrives over the next few days. It is 'accidental' because I clumsily popped the second coil while adjusting the original 1.0 ohm dual coil set up I was going for.

It consists of:

12 no. wraps of 28.5 guage (.30mm in foreign) around a 2mm darning needle, set at an approx 10 deg. incline.
Wicked with a full rayon wick poked down into the bottom of the drip well.
Set at maximum 2 x 3mm airflow.

I really would advise you to buy one Andria and at $25 or so it represents excellent VFM.

Yeah it sounds like it's right up my alley; I generally always build my coils around 1.8-2.0, so they're not too hot, and they save on battery life. I use either 3/32 or 7/64 drillbit -- I don't do mm whatsoever, since I really can't "guesstimate" ANY kind of size just from hearing a mm measurement, unless it's for a measurement I already know -- like 22 or 23 mm for the width of a mod, etc. So that means usually about 8 wraps or so, around that 3/32 or 7/64.

I like to feel some resistance in the draw, so I know I'm actually getting something; the airy ones are terrible to me, because I can't tell I'm getting anything, so I end up getting WAY too much and I get choked to death and have an asthma attack. Obviously I never do lung inhales -- I didn't smoke that way, so I'm not going to vape that way, even if I could, and with asthma, inhaling direct to lung is an excellent way to give myself an asthma attack.

Unfortunately at the moment I don't have a stray $25, and most likely won't have, for some time.

Andria

 

[crxess]

Yeah it sounds like it's right up my alley; I generally always build my coils around 1.8-2.0, so they're not too hot, and they save on battery life. I use either 3/32 or 7/64 drillbit -- I don't do mm whatsoever, since I really can't "guesstimate" ANY kind of size just from hearing a mm measurement, unless it's for a measurement I already know -- like 22 or 23 mm for the width of a mod, etc. So that means usually about 8 wraps or so, around that 3/32 or 7/64.

I like to feel some resistance in the draw, so I know I'm actually getting something; the airy ones are terrible to me, because I can't tell I'm getting anything, so I end up getting WAY too much and I get choked to death and have an asthma attack. Obviously I never do lung inhales -- I didn't smoke that way, so I'm not going to vape that way, even if I could, and with asthma, inhaling direct to lung is an excellent way to give myself an asthma attack.

Unfortunately at the moment I don't have a stray $25, and most likely won't have, for some time.

Andria

Andria...............

FRACTION TO DECIMAL AND MM TABLE

 

[AndriaD]

Andria...............

FRACTION TO DECIMAL AND MM TABLE

Oh, I've seen a lot of tables, and use them if I need to. But it's not something I was ever taught in school, or need to know on a regular basis, so it's not "right there" in my head the way that regular measurements are -- I can estimate an inch, a foot, or a yard, and never need a measuring device, it's automatic.

Andria

 

[VA Vince]

I bought the Magma from reading here and most have said it is the flavor that makes this RDA. I do like it, doesn't leak for me and I like the airflow. I am a single coil guy and have both holes open to the largest setting. Now this is an authentic so who knows if that has anything to do with it just plain working for me? I also have an authentic Tugboat V2 and think for flavor, it is on par or a step above, just my opinion.

 

[Heespharm]

I bought the Magma from reading here and most have said it is the flavor that makes this RDA. I do like it, doesn't leak for me and I like the airflow. I am a single coil guy and have both holes open to the largest setting. Now this is an authentic so who knows if that has anything to do with it just plain working for me? I also have an authentic Tugboat V2 and think for flavor, it is on par or a step above, just my opinion.

Agreed... I have authentic in both and both have great flavor... Pretty darn too close to call but my single coil in the tugboat and dual coil in the magma are close... I bet dual coil will just up the flavor in my tugboat

 

[crxess]

Oh, I've seen a lot of tables, and use them if I need to. But it's not something I was ever taught in school, or need to know on a regular basis, so it's not "right there" in my head the way that regular measurements are -- I can estimate an inch, a foot, or a yard, and never need a measuring device, it's automatic.

Andria

Same here. I had to book mark that page for reference. Not that you can't teach an old dog..........I just forget so fast.


Edit: I have also ordered an Origen to see if it can be pushed to out perform the Magma.

Then again, I drilled out both of my IGO-L's to 2mm today. Got so used to the newer RDA's I kept choking on the Igo's They are working much better now

 

[AndriaD]

Same here. I had to book mark that page for reference. Not that you can't teach an old dog..........I just forget so fast.

I hate to admit it, but I'm afraid the metric system is one trick this old dog won't be learning.

Edit: I have also ordered an Origen to see if it can be pushed to out perform the Magma.

Then again, I drilled out both of my IGO-L's to 2mm today. Got so used to the newer RDA's I kept choking on the Igo's They are working much better now

Heh... I got so used to my Kayfuns, even with the airflow almost entirely closed, that my cartotank seems too tight to me anymore; I walk around with it half-unscrewed, so it has more air! Then I have to remember to tighten it if I put it into my purse!

Andria

 

[MrPlink]

The most common mistake I see with the Magma is that people tend to leave the coils sitting up too high and not centred over the airholes. To get the best flavour, you need to make sure the coils are sitting down low directly over the airholes (about 1-2mm over them) so they get direct airflow.

Truth, makes a huge difference

 

[VenusianSky]

I didn't care for my Magma at first. Once I figured out a good build, it has become my favorite. Best flavor. Yeah, Veritas is about the same on flavor, but I hate building coils on it. I just wish the Magma didn't leak, like the Veritas. I would like to see a new Magma with a couple tweaks that would stop leaking and add more airflow options.

 

[VA Vince]

It seems that those who have/had leaking problems are just filling it to much. It is a deep well RDA but it is an RDA, either way, I have filled mine plenty of times with no leaking using organic cotton for my wick.

 

[regal55]

I think the magma is the best dripper for those seeking flavor over steam. It is very convenient to maintain both coils and wicking. I did find the ring troublesome so I removed it (I I like a loose draw.) The key to using the ring is to hold it in position when you tighten down the top.

 

[herb]

Magma hate , got to be a mistake , this dripper is head and shoulders above others i have tried by far but it's a taste machine not the ultimate cloud machine. You MUST have both air holes open not just one which many people miss.

Making sure one of the air holes is open does not mean the other side is open , you have to look to make sure they are lined up. I wick with Rayon and tuck both ends into the well , i also don't drip into it , thats when it usually leaks , i unscrew the top and don't overfill , have not had it leak once (no joke).

 

[kickflipsnnollies]

You don't need both airholes open if you run single coil.

I actually drilled out the AFC ring in my Tobeco clone. The largest holes were a tiny bit smaller than the holes in the deck, so I drilled those to be slightly bigger than the holes on the deck. My holes on my deck aren't 3mm either. More like 2.5mm.

I also drilled one of the smallest holes out in dual coil mode. That way I can have one side completely open and the other just a tiny bit open. I get a bit airier draw than using the biggest single coil hole (about like having both middle-sized holes open) while still focusing the vast majority over the coil. I was never gonna use that tiny hole anyway.

 

[DaveSignal]

I have an authentic magma that usually just sits on my vape stand unused. I do have a lot of attys, but I do agree that the airflow on the magma is very restricted. I think I have it with 26 gauge dual coils at around 0.3 ohm, but it has been awhile since I have used it. There are many many atomizers with better airflow options that produce much greater vapor and still have great flavor.

 

[KC33]

There's a few things I dislike about the Magma. It leaks, the AFC is a PITA and so is filling it. I barely use it anymore but it does produce an excellent vape. I prefer the Plume Veil, Stilaire, CLT and Tugboat, to name a few, over the Magma.

 

[HKholic]

My beef is with the leaking and the noise. It's not a lot of leaking but enough and the noise I don't care for. My OrigenV2 and Odin are my go-to's atm. The flavor for the Magma is good, just don't like dealing with other two things. I am picky.............and a wee tad OCD-ish.

 

[iamoldskool]

I love my Magmas and prefer it over the Plume Veil. Waiting on the Veritas in the mail to compare.

I use both the 1mm airholes (when i want to mouth to lung ) and 3mm airholes for lung hits. If i ever want more airflow i use my drip tip with adjustable air flow.

They never leak on me, i drip into the juice well and the japanese cotton soaks it up almost instantly. I never drip over the coils cause juice falls right into the air flow hole.

On the 30mm Magma i run a dual parallel coil with 25 guage kanthal, 8 wraps (16 strands) that comes out to 0.25 ohms. The vape is amazing!