I hate this Magma
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That made me chuckle. I have at times repeated the same to myself when fiddling with it. On the shelf it went, along with another recent hyped up atty that experienced similar issues. I have since paid attention to the certain design of attys and steer clear of them.
I have just about every atty, granted side are clones, and I prefer 0.4ohm ish BC I believe that is about as low as I can get without sacrificing flavor, and in big on flavor. The best attys IMHO are the quasar, and the odin, I have a couple quasar clones that are 7 bucks and just as good as the real one. It's a simple 3 post but it's a high deck which reduces the chamber volume creating flavor only matched by the odin, the odin I hate where the air holes are, it's impossible to center build, but it's a beast as well.
2 Things work:
1) Purchasing the correct topper for your building skills/styles.
2) Adapting your building styles to the toppers you purchase.
That's probably my remaining quandary about the magma; it's a 22mm rda, right? The other 22mm RDA I have is the caterpillar, and I just can't abide it, there really is no flavor to speak of; it must be a cloud-chasing rda. But everyone keeps saying that the magma provides really excellent flavor, so I'm still considering it. Is the flavor as good as from a kayfun? Because really that's the best-vaping rebuildable I've tried so far -- I don't give a hang about clouds (which is fortunate since I vape 80%-85% PG!), I want FLAVOR!
Andria
With most juices (and a good build) the magma will murder a Kayfun for flavor. In some cases it is too good at amplifying flavor, and it brings forward notes in your juice that you would possibly not want to taste.
If you want an INSANE flavor experience, take an old school Kayfun drip tip (the domed one with the tiny opening) and use it on a magma. The vape is so absurdly concentrated it's almost like you are just drinking your eLiquid
If you want an INSANE flavor experience, take an old school Kayfun drip tip (the domed one with the tiny opening) and use it on a magma. The vape is so absurdly concentrated it's almost like you are just drinking your eLiquid
Ok; I know just what you mean -- the blueberry muffin/banana nut bread mix that I love, doesn't taste very good from a kayfun; the kayfun really sharpens the blueberry flavor, to the point that it just drowns out the muffin and banana nut flavor. To get the best mix of flavors with this blended ejuice, I use a cartotank -- the blueberry stays in proportion to the muffin/banana nut flavor.
But I'm starting on a DIY campaign with this particular blend of flavors; hopefully I can concoct a good mix that WILL taste good in a kayfun, and if so, then it might also be very good in a magma. I just have to find a way to bring the muffin/cake flavor out more strongly.
Andria
Im happy to report that my magma is gone. It is awaiting another owner, as I exchanged it at the local shop where I bought it. I about hugged the owner when he agreed to trade it for a plume veil, he made money on the exchange, I lost a bit, Im still much much much happier.
Just recently I classified myself as a 'flavor guy' and I am. I chase flavor, not huge clouds. But, I need an open smooth draw to pull the flavor I prefer (and lots of vapor always comes with it). Ive truly grown out of protanks and kayfuns and graduated to wide open RDAs, for whatever its worth.
Im waiting on an origin clone and getting my tools ready. This is clone I will not hesitate to drill.
Just recently I classified myself as a 'flavor guy' and I am. I chase flavor, not huge clouds. But, I need an open smooth draw to pull the flavor I prefer (and lots of vapor always comes with it). Ive truly grown out of protanks and kayfuns and graduated to wide open RDAs, for whatever its worth.
Im waiting on an origin clone and getting my tools ready. This is clone I will not hesitate to drill.
Good move and great CS from your vape guy. I love the plume veil way more than the Magma. I just got the version 1.5 (Clone) in the mail this evening but haven't had a chance to really get into it yet.
If you hated the Magma because it leaks, you might not be too happy with the Plume Veil.
If you wick a plume veil correctly it's leaking will be minimal at best. The problem is people tend to place directly by the air channels on the negative posts, which is a no no.
The plume veil has very impressive flavor for how much of an open draw it has (and in turn how much cloudage it produces) but I would still easily rank the magma above it. Nevertheless it is a very impressive design an an absolute joy to build on.
The biggest down side IMO is the practical factor in that it does not hold a lot of liquid. Of course compared to the Magma not many do.
This is where the 454, Veritas and Origin come in as they more or less split the difference between the magma and plume veil in over all performance. Pita to build by comparison.
The plume veil has very impressive flavor for how much of an open draw it has (and in turn how much cloudage it produces) but I would still easily rank the magma above it. Nevertheless it is a very impressive design an an absolute joy to build on.
The biggest down side IMO is the practical factor in that it does not hold a lot of liquid. Of course compared to the Magma not many do.
This is where the 454, Veritas and Origin come in as they more or less split the difference between the magma and plume veil in over all performance. Pita to build by comparison.
If you hated the Magma because it leaks, you might not be too happy with the Plume Veil.
I hated the loud and restrictive draw, the wet adjustment ring was just icing on the dog turd. I can deal with a little drop here and there, as long as it performs. The plume veil is not fool proof, but it works like an rda should and gives more options than the one I had (helios). The top airflow adjustments and being able to reduce the chamber size is working well for me, but I plugged the bottom holes to combat the leaks. The bottom flow didnt seem to matter as much as the top flow, so I plugged it.
Im still figuring it out, but its in my pocket during 12hr shifts at work, that says it all right there.
I just got my tobeco origen (15$) yesterday and aside from the holes not exactly lining up (over 90% open though), the draw is absolutely acceptable. It destroys the magma in total airflow and makes no noise when the air is flowing. The afc collar is 'sealed' on the top and bottom with o-rings and doesnt seem to seep at all.
My first shot at a vertical build was dual 2.5mm id coils, 8wraps of 26ga, coming out at .4ohm, wicked with cotton. BOOYA, this thing chucks the vapor and the flavor is close to perfect.
My first shot at a vertical build was dual 2.5mm id coils, 8wraps of 26ga, coming out at .4ohm, wicked with cotton. BOOYA, this thing chucks the vapor and the flavor is close to perfect.
I really like my magma, that's what I'm hitting on now.I've found that turning the airflow ring upside down cuts the airflow hole diameter. In half, if that helps anyone.
I think the airflow problem is that most of the people who complain about the magma are lung hitters with different expectations. The largest air setting on the Magma is borderline too small for this and so it doesn't really produce the same kind of vapor that most of the other popular cloud-chasing RDAs are producing these days.
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