i have a big big problem E-Liquid :(

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I agree, there are other things that can be added, to increase the throat hit, if getting liquid nicotine and/or grain alcohol is a problem.

Flavors -- cinnamon redhot, black sesame seed flavor -- the redhot will give a little of a "burn"; it's not really terribly sweet unless you also add sweetener -- the black sesame seed flavor has a very smoky scent and taste.

Additives: an additive called "Flash" -- it's not a perfect solution, but it does give a bit more throat hit. You can find it at ecigexpress.com -- maybe other places too, but I know for sure about ecigexpress.com.

And of course, the highest PG you can stand -- 85% or more. High PG will give more throat hit, but will definitely cause thinner vapor; if you're looking for more of a "full lung" sensation, then higher VG might actually work better; it provides more vapor, and much thicker vapor.

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I would try adding some drinking alcohol to the juice. Something clear like vodka or pure grain alcohol.

Start with a small amount such as 1% and increase up to 5% if needed to see if it has the desired affect.

thank you
i can get pure alcohol from Pharmacies or some friends
i will try and i hope that worked
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Vaping (inhaling vapor) is much different than smoking (inhaling burning tobacco). You won't feel it in your lungs as much since vapor is not smoke.

If you increase the amount of vapor with a more powerful device and lower resistance coils, you will feel it in your lungs more but it won't be the same as smoking.

i know but i buy some liquid ( locally made )
It was very good and I felt the vapor very good in the lung
and i hope to make my own liquid like this local liquid
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Judging from the OP's location, and difficulty with english, I'm gonna go out on a limb and suppose he means alexandria, egypt... in which case, grain alcohol might be either impossible to get, or extremely expensive -- it's a primarily-islamic country. If e-cigs are hard to get, alcohol may be even more difficult!

Andria

you are completely right about that
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JFYI, I used to deal with some juice makers that intentionally added alcohol to thier liquid to make it mix easier/ faster. It gave me a raging headache and made me sick to my stomach. It may not affect everyone this way, but I would never suggest it as a juice additive.

Now if I detect any alcohol at all, I let it sit open for 4-7 days and if that don`t fix it, it goes in the bummer bin.

Just saying.
 

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Sad to say, I do not think you will get what you want until there is a significant amount of nicotine in your liquids.

IMHO, it is safer and more efficient to travel far enough to get nicotine liquid and smuggle it back (not advocating any illegality), than it is to extract your own nicotine. Vaping over smoking is about safer
behavior!

I wish the best of luck to you.

EDIT: I realize that depending on your location, traveling to get eliquid may not be a feasible possibility.. Not sure of a solution. At home extractions truly are difficult and, more, very dangerous.

i'm afraid from this
but even if purchase nicotine from the outside I can not escape from the Customs is very difficult and i know extract nicotine in home difficult and very dangerous but what i can do ? attempt or back to regular cigarettes
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A tobacco extraction that targets nicotine requires numerous steps with extremely volatile chemicals and should never be attempted by anyone that does not have proper equipment and training. Your best bet would be to research different flavorings that are available to you and may simulate the effect you're after. A few you can look into and decide if risk is worth the reward would be cinnamon, peppers, menthol, citrus & peppermint.

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Have you tried a strong menthol juice ?

vaping is not smoking, and I think that anyone who expects the same results from vaping as smoking will be disappointed

I ve found that I get the best results by holding the vapour in my mouth and not inhaling as you would with a cigarette

It s hard to explain but I take a partial inhale

I'm not trying to get the same results, but I want to get the same quality of the local liquid only :)
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There is a thread in the DIY e-juice section about tobacco extraction. The folks that do at home extracting from tobacco are doing it to get the tobacco flavor. The threads that I've read say the nicotine level of the resulting extract is very low.

thats right, because I tried it myself from cigar soaking period was about 10 days and was the quantity is very low
 

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because it's very dangerous

So, a lab is going to make it safer? Its a given that`s it may not be idiot proof, but it don`t mean I need UCLA`s lab building to do it.

Is it really necessary to have a white coat, beakers, and a Bunsen burner.
I have bleach under the sink, its dangerous, I don`t drink it, and I don`t bathe in it. To insist I need a lab is to suggest I could`nt do it without a lab. This seems rather controlling, Stick a ..... in a lab and you have a ..... in a lab.

Using this logic, we should all sub ohm at the ER, you know, just in case.
 

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I agree, there are other things that can be added, to increase the throat hit, if getting liquid nicotine and/or grain alcohol is a problem.

Flavors -- cinnamon redhot, black sesame seed flavor -- the redhot will give a little of a "burn"; it's not really terribly sweet unless you also add sweetener -- the black sesame seed flavor has a very smoky scent and taste.

Additives: an additive called "Flash" -- it's not a perfect solution, but it does give a bit more throat hit. You can find it at ecigexpress.com -- maybe other places too, but I know for sure about ecigexpress.com.

And of course, the highest PG you can stand -- 85% or more. High PG will give more throat hit, but will definitely cause thinner vapor; if you're looking for more of a "full lung" sensation, then higher VG might actually work better; it provides more vapor, and much thicker vapor.

Andria

thank you andria
i'm afraid you can't understand me well
i'm looking for the vapor feeling in my Lung no taste or thick vapor or less
just need to feeling in Lung
and i got it from local liquid in my country
why my liquid does not have the same feeling ?
that's all :)
thank you
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MDK2010

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So, a lab is going to make it safer? Its a given that`s it may not be idiot proof, but it don`t mean I need UCLA`s lab building to do it.

Is it really necessary to have a white coat, beakers, and a Bunsen burner.
I have bleach under the sink, its dangerous, I don`t drink it, and I don`t bathe in it. To insist I need a lab is to suggest I could`nt do it without a lab. This seems rather controlling, Stick a ..... in a lab and you have a ..... in a lab.

Using this logic, we should all sub ohm at the ER, you know, just in case.

maybe you're right
we don't need a lab to extract liquid but we need some training and some equipment to ensure success in the extraction well and safe at the same time
 
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