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Oh noooooooo! No begating confusion!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Anything but that!
Well, Matthew is my favorite Gospel!
I think I stated that. But doesn't it start out with.....dare I say......dare....dare......begats?
Well, Matthew is my favorite Gospel!
I think I stated that. But doesn't it start out with.....dare I say......dare....dare......begats?
I'll do a run down on all the "begatting" and then we can start with the birth of Jesus. It will be somewhat lengthy but informative.
I think
I think
What the heck is begatting??????? Sounds like a ball game, like some kind of weird tennis possibly.
This is fun! SG, in all truthfulness, Matthew's begats showed the geneology of Jesus. These begats might be necessary. I was just having some fun and I think you guys were too! My daddy used to say before he passed at the age of 95 1/2 (good Jewish genes), "if you don't have any fun in life, you're just wasting it."
Laughter.....humor.......endorphins......God created it all. It's a good thing! Most people don't ever think about Jesus laughing, but He had to have....especially around the children. Oh to be a small child sitting on His lap, listening to stories, being hugged. Man I would have loved that! I can experience it with my eyes closed. That's one of those Jesus plug in times.
Laughter.....humor.......endorphins......God created it all. It's a good thing! Most people don't ever think about Jesus laughing, but He had to have....especially around the children. Oh to be a small child sitting on His lap, listening to stories, being hugged. Man I would have loved that! I can experience it with my eyes closed. That's one of those Jesus plug in times.
1:1 The book of the genealogy of Jesus Christ, the son of David, the son of Abraham.
He begins with his arguments (proofs that Jesus is the Messiah) from the very first verse. If Jesus were truly the Messiah,then he would have to have the proper genealogy. So Matthew, through the inspiration of the Holy Spirit, is going to deal with this very important obstacle first.
Genealogy - history of the origin of Jesus Christ. How did He come to be? What he says is that He is the son of David, the son of Abraham. “Son of” means "descendant of." Very, very important and significant to establish that Jesus was of the lineage of David. For the genealogy through Mary see the account written by Luke. This is Joseph's genealogy. A Jew would never care about the genealogy through a
mother, even though Joseph was not the father of Jesus, it would be important to the Jew so Matthew shows this lineage. The Greeks would know that Jesus was not the son of Joseph so they would not
care about the genealogy of Joseph.
Genesewv - book of history of the origin of Jesus Christ.
There are two connections made which are absolutely vital to the Jewish mind. Those are the connections of Abraham and David. Abraham - Gen 12:1-3; 15:4-20; 17:21; 22:17, 18; 26:4; 28:13,14; 35:10,11; 50:24,25. Solidly in the Pentateuch was the idea that in the seed of Abraham would the nation of Israel be blessed. Son of David - (“son of” or “descendant of”) - also extremely important (2 Sam 7:12, 13). The Messiah was going to be a king like David (Isa 9:6, 7). The Jews did not think of a spiritual kingdom at all, especially from Dan 2 and Psa 110. What Matthew does in his genealogy is to establish a solid relationship between Jesus and the two main figures of importance and prominence as far as the Jewish mind was concerned.
1:2 To Abraham was born Isaac; and to Isaac, Jacob; and to Jacob Judah and his brothers;
1:3 and to Judah were born Perez and Zerah by Tamar; and to Perez was born Hezron; and to Hezron, Ram;
1:4 and to Ram was born Amminadab; and to Amminadab, Nahshon; and to Nahshon, Salmon;
1:5 and to Salmon was born Boaz by Rahab; and to Boaz was born Obed by Ruth; and to Obed, Jesse;
1:6 and to Jesse was born David the king. And to David was born Solomon by her who had been the wife of Uzziah;
1:7 and to Solomon was born Rehoboam; and to Rehoboam, Abijah; and to Abijah, Asa;
1:8 and to Asa was born Jehoshaphat; and to Jehoshaphat, Joram; and to Joram, Uzziah;
1:9 and to Uzziah was born Jotham; and to Jotham, Ahaz; and to Ahaz, Hezekiah;
1:10 and to Hezekiah was born Manasseh; and to Manasseh, Amon; and to Amon, Josiah;
1:11 and to Josiah were born Jeconiah and his brothers, at the time of the deportation to Babylon.
1:12 And after the deportation to Babylon, to Jeconiah was born Shealtiel; and to Shealtiel, Zerubbabel;
1:13 and to Zerubbabel was born Abiud; and to Abiud, Eliakim; and to Eliakim, Azor;
1:14 and to Azor was born Zadok; and to Zadok, Achim; and to Achim, Eliud;
1:15 and to Eliud was born Eleazar; and to Eleazar, Matthan; and to Matthan, Jacob;
1:16 And to Jacob was born Joseph the husband of Mary, by whom was born Jesus, who is called Christ.
Beget = egennhsen = born - "...through Isaac your descendants shall be named” Gen 21:12.
NAMES IN THE GENEALOGY OF JESUS
Abraham...Gen 12:1-3; 17:7; Gal 3:16
Isaac Gen 21:1-3; 26:4; promise repeated
Jacob Gen 25:25,26; 28:13, 14 (also named Israel)
Judah Son of Leah - Gen 29:35
Perez One of twins begotten as result of an incestuous relationship between
Judah and Tamar his daughter - Gen 38:12-30
Hezron Son of Judah - Gen 46:12
Ram Ruth 4:18, 19 - son of Ram
Amminadab Ruth 4:19
Nahshon Ruth 4:20
Salmon Ruth 4:20
Boaz Ruth 4:21 - Husband of Ruth
Obed Ruth 4:21
Jesse Ruth 4:21 - Father of David
David Ruth 4:21 - King of Israel
KINGDOM OF JUDAH
Solomon Tenth son of David, second by Bathsheba - 2 Sam 12:24
Rehoboam 2 Chron 9:31
Abijah (Abijam) son of Rehoboam - 1 Kgs 14:31
Asa 1 Kgs 15:8
Jehoshaphat 1 Kgs 15:24
Jorem 1 Kgs 22:30; 2 Kgs 8:16
Ahaziah 2 Kgs 8:25
Joash 2 Kgs 13:1
Amaziah 2 Kgs 14:21
Azariah 2 Kgs 15:1
Jotham 2 Kgs 15:7
Ahaz 2 Kgs 10:1
Hezekiah 2 Kgs 18:1
Manasseh 2 Kgs 21:2
Amon 2 Kgs 21:18,19
Josiah 2 Kgs 22:1
Joahaz 2 Chron 36:1
Uzziah (Young’s, 1019) also called Azariah, 2 Kgs 15:1 separated by three genera-
tions from Joram
Jedoniah 1 Chron 3:16
Shealtiel Father of Zerubbabel - Ezra 3:2
Zerubbabel Ezra 2:2 - led the people out of captivity
Abiud Only in Mt 1:13 (possibly a grandson)
Eliakim Only Mt 1:13 and Lk 3:30
Azor Only Mt 1:13,14
Zadoc Mt 1:14
Achim Mt 1:14
Eliud Mt 1:14
Eleazar Mt 1:15
Matthan Mt 1:15
Jacob Mt 1:15
Joseph Mt 1:16
By whom = ¶> H - is feminine, thus it cannot refer to Joseph, but must refer to Mary. Luke’s genealogy traces Jesus through Mary. According to law, Joseph was legally the father of Jesus, so Matthew takes the overall perspective from Joseph's family line. Yet, he makes it clear in v. 16 that Jesus was not begotten from Joseph.
1:17 Therefore all the generations from Abraham to David are fourteen generations; and from David to the deportation to Babylon fourteen generations; and from the deportation to Babylon to the time of Christ fourteen generations.
Fourteen generations. In studying this genealogy it is found that Matthew is telling us that there are not literally fourteen fathers and sons, but that for the ease of memory, these were divided into three groups of fourteen. This way people (especially Jewish boys) could memorize them, and would know they had all the names included by counting to fourteen.
In Jewish genealogies, they did not care how they lined up (uncle, etc.) Matthew breaks it down from Abraham to David is 14 generations; from David to the deportation is 14; and from the deportation down to the time of Christ is 14. Jesus was the last of the third group of 14, which would fit in with their genealogy. What he says is, "was called Christ", and then calls Him Christ again in v. 17. Once again, Matthew has not proven that Jesus is, in fact, the Christ, but he is beginning to offer some interesting proofs.
The Jews would always have objections (as in the gospel of John when they say, "He came from the wrong place").
Christ = cristov ="anointed one" - a function or position. “Jesus" is a personal name. “Lord Jesus Christ” means Jesus of Nazareth who is Lord of all who sits on the throne of David. Later “Christ” became almost the only name used because of Christian acceptance of Jesus as the Christ. To the Jews, Jesus and Christ had no connection at all.
The begatting has begun.
He begins with his arguments (proofs that Jesus is the Messiah) from the very first verse. If Jesus were truly the Messiah,then he would have to have the proper genealogy. So Matthew, through the inspiration of the Holy Spirit, is going to deal with this very important obstacle first.
Genealogy - history of the origin of Jesus Christ. How did He come to be? What he says is that He is the son of David, the son of Abraham. “Son of” means "descendant of." Very, very important and significant to establish that Jesus was of the lineage of David. For the genealogy through Mary see the account written by Luke. This is Joseph's genealogy. A Jew would never care about the genealogy through a
mother, even though Joseph was not the father of Jesus, it would be important to the Jew so Matthew shows this lineage. The Greeks would know that Jesus was not the son of Joseph so they would not
care about the genealogy of Joseph.
Genesewv - book of history of the origin of Jesus Christ.
There are two connections made which are absolutely vital to the Jewish mind. Those are the connections of Abraham and David. Abraham - Gen 12:1-3; 15:4-20; 17:21; 22:17, 18; 26:4; 28:13,14; 35:10,11; 50:24,25. Solidly in the Pentateuch was the idea that in the seed of Abraham would the nation of Israel be blessed. Son of David - (“son of” or “descendant of”) - also extremely important (2 Sam 7:12, 13). The Messiah was going to be a king like David (Isa 9:6, 7). The Jews did not think of a spiritual kingdom at all, especially from Dan 2 and Psa 110. What Matthew does in his genealogy is to establish a solid relationship between Jesus and the two main figures of importance and prominence as far as the Jewish mind was concerned.
1:2 To Abraham was born Isaac; and to Isaac, Jacob; and to Jacob Judah and his brothers;
1:3 and to Judah were born Perez and Zerah by Tamar; and to Perez was born Hezron; and to Hezron, Ram;
1:4 and to Ram was born Amminadab; and to Amminadab, Nahshon; and to Nahshon, Salmon;
1:5 and to Salmon was born Boaz by Rahab; and to Boaz was born Obed by Ruth; and to Obed, Jesse;
1:6 and to Jesse was born David the king. And to David was born Solomon by her who had been the wife of Uzziah;
1:7 and to Solomon was born Rehoboam; and to Rehoboam, Abijah; and to Abijah, Asa;
1:8 and to Asa was born Jehoshaphat; and to Jehoshaphat, Joram; and to Joram, Uzziah;
1:9 and to Uzziah was born Jotham; and to Jotham, Ahaz; and to Ahaz, Hezekiah;
1:10 and to Hezekiah was born Manasseh; and to Manasseh, Amon; and to Amon, Josiah;
1:11 and to Josiah were born Jeconiah and his brothers, at the time of the deportation to Babylon.
1:12 And after the deportation to Babylon, to Jeconiah was born Shealtiel; and to Shealtiel, Zerubbabel;
1:13 and to Zerubbabel was born Abiud; and to Abiud, Eliakim; and to Eliakim, Azor;
1:14 and to Azor was born Zadok; and to Zadok, Achim; and to Achim, Eliud;
1:15 and to Eliud was born Eleazar; and to Eleazar, Matthan; and to Matthan, Jacob;
1:16 And to Jacob was born Joseph the husband of Mary, by whom was born Jesus, who is called Christ.
Beget = egennhsen = born - "...through Isaac your descendants shall be named” Gen 21:12.
NAMES IN THE GENEALOGY OF JESUS
Abraham...Gen 12:1-3; 17:7; Gal 3:16
Isaac Gen 21:1-3; 26:4; promise repeated
Jacob Gen 25:25,26; 28:13, 14 (also named Israel)
Judah Son of Leah - Gen 29:35
Perez One of twins begotten as result of an incestuous relationship between
Judah and Tamar his daughter - Gen 38:12-30
Hezron Son of Judah - Gen 46:12
Ram Ruth 4:18, 19 - son of Ram
Amminadab Ruth 4:19
Nahshon Ruth 4:20
Salmon Ruth 4:20
Boaz Ruth 4:21 - Husband of Ruth
Obed Ruth 4:21
Jesse Ruth 4:21 - Father of David
David Ruth 4:21 - King of Israel
KINGDOM OF JUDAH
Solomon Tenth son of David, second by Bathsheba - 2 Sam 12:24
Rehoboam 2 Chron 9:31
Abijah (Abijam) son of Rehoboam - 1 Kgs 14:31
Asa 1 Kgs 15:8
Jehoshaphat 1 Kgs 15:24
Jorem 1 Kgs 22:30; 2 Kgs 8:16
Ahaziah 2 Kgs 8:25
Joash 2 Kgs 13:1
Amaziah 2 Kgs 14:21
Azariah 2 Kgs 15:1
Jotham 2 Kgs 15:7
Ahaz 2 Kgs 10:1
Hezekiah 2 Kgs 18:1
Manasseh 2 Kgs 21:2
Amon 2 Kgs 21:18,19
Josiah 2 Kgs 22:1
Joahaz 2 Chron 36:1
Uzziah (Young’s, 1019) also called Azariah, 2 Kgs 15:1 separated by three genera-
tions from Joram
Jedoniah 1 Chron 3:16
Shealtiel Father of Zerubbabel - Ezra 3:2
Zerubbabel Ezra 2:2 - led the people out of captivity
Abiud Only in Mt 1:13 (possibly a grandson)
Eliakim Only Mt 1:13 and Lk 3:30
Azor Only Mt 1:13,14
Zadoc Mt 1:14
Achim Mt 1:14
Eliud Mt 1:14
Eleazar Mt 1:15
Matthan Mt 1:15
Jacob Mt 1:15
Joseph Mt 1:16
By whom = ¶> H - is feminine, thus it cannot refer to Joseph, but must refer to Mary. Luke’s genealogy traces Jesus through Mary. According to law, Joseph was legally the father of Jesus, so Matthew takes the overall perspective from Joseph's family line. Yet, he makes it clear in v. 16 that Jesus was not begotten from Joseph.
1:17 Therefore all the generations from Abraham to David are fourteen generations; and from David to the deportation to Babylon fourteen generations; and from the deportation to Babylon to the time of Christ fourteen generations.
Fourteen generations. In studying this genealogy it is found that Matthew is telling us that there are not literally fourteen fathers and sons, but that for the ease of memory, these were divided into three groups of fourteen. This way people (especially Jewish boys) could memorize them, and would know they had all the names included by counting to fourteen.
In Jewish genealogies, they did not care how they lined up (uncle, etc.) Matthew breaks it down from Abraham to David is 14 generations; from David to the deportation is 14; and from the deportation down to the time of Christ is 14. Jesus was the last of the third group of 14, which would fit in with their genealogy. What he says is, "was called Christ", and then calls Him Christ again in v. 17. Once again, Matthew has not proven that Jesus is, in fact, the Christ, but he is beginning to offer some interesting proofs.
The Jews would always have objections (as in the gospel of John when they say, "He came from the wrong place").
Christ = cristov ="anointed one" - a function or position. “Jesus" is a personal name. “Lord Jesus Christ” means Jesus of Nazareth who is Lord of all who sits on the throne of David. Later “Christ” became almost the only name used because of Christian acceptance of Jesus as the Christ. To the Jews, Jesus and Christ had no connection at all.
The begatting has begun.
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Oh geez.........I could have done without all that.
JUST KIDDING! LOL!!!!!
Twernt a lot of fun for me either.......
I wonder who came up with the expression of Jumping Jehoshaphats! Maybe he danced like Mexican jumping beans.
If I went to Israel and wanted to call her my inherited homeland, I would get denied because claims don't go through the the father, it goes through the mother. Phooey.
If I went to Israel and wanted to call her my inherited homeland, I would get denied because claims don't go through the the father, it goes through the mother. Phooey.
Yeah! We got another one!!!!!!! What are we up to now, 6 people I think? I lost track.
What are we up to now, 6 people I think? I lost track.
Haha..you begat me a headache with all that begatting...I'm in for the study....Hebrews is one of my favs
Love it!!!
Love it!!!
We are rockin and rollin now. So when do we start??????
Look at this guys, what do you think of it? BibleGateway.com- Audio Bibles, commentaries, dictionaries, and Bible study tools.
BibleGateway is a fantastic bible study tool....That is my go to site for most scripture look ups. Another fave for me is: Online Parallel Bible: Weaving God's Word into the Web a pretty complete study site.
Ok here is the poll. Do you guys want to do the whole NT or just Revelation to start with?
I would like to join in on this too, if I may.
Did I miss where the day was decided and are we doing the book of Revelations? Maybe I should go back and start reading this thread from the start again...LOL!
When do we meet? What book do we start with? How many chapters, or the whole book at once (sort of a daunting task with Revelations)
Did I miss where the day was decided and are we doing the book of Revelations? Maybe I should go back and start reading this thread from the start again...LOL!
When do we meet? What book do we start with? How many chapters, or the whole book at once (sort of a daunting task with Revelations)
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