I heard an anti vape commercial on my local radio station today!

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GemInEye

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Wow im still in shock. I was sitting on the grass at my local county pool vaping away listening to my local radio station play. Next thing i know I hear a commercial with a woman saying "I tried to vape in order to quit smoking and only ended up smoking both." The basic point was dont try vaping because cold turkey is the only way that works. If you could have seen my face! I was in shock and disgust all at once. Still cant believe it.
 

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Call the station.
Tell them that you will stop listening and tell everyone to tune out if they continue to preach propaganda.

Be professional and courteous, but be serious.

Local stations take it VERY, VERY seriously when listeners call and complain about what they hear on the air.
 

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Perfect illustration of how twisted their logic is, they can't see the benefit of someone vaping even if they still also smoke.

Every time you vape instead of smoke that's a net health gain. 50% harm reduction is still harm reduction, but they'll never understand that, their paychecks depend on NOT understanding it.
 

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I see them quite often on TV here in California. They mostly say stuff like kids will start smoking e-cigs cuz you can get candy flavors and that the vapor contains chemicals and trace elements that are even more hazardous to you than smoking. It's to the point now where I stick to watching Netflix and streaming my shows.
 

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I live in Kentuky where they grow tobacco just down the road from me. Acres of the stuff. I'm suprised farmers haven't started burning down vape shops here. The good news, I have 18 vape shops within 45 minutes of my house. :)
I wouldn't think they'd really care unless we all started vaping 0MG. That nicotine's gotta come from somewhere, and tobacco is one of the best candidates!
 

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I wouldn't think they'd really care unless we all started vaping 0MG. That nicotine's gotta come from somewhere, and tobacco is one of the best candidates!
I agree however I keep waiting to see a commercial with some poor child with tears in his eyes and a message that reads how vaping is taking food off his table. And for $5 a day, you could give him medicine and clean water. There are people here that would actually say out loud "I think we should help that boy because Kentuky is right near America". lol
 

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Perfect illustration of how twisted their logic is, they can't see the benefit of someone vaping even if they still also smoke.

Every time you vape instead of smoke that's a net health gain. 50% harm reduction is still harm reduction, but they'll never understand that, their paychecks depend on NOT understanding it.

It may not be as simple as that. Studies show the dose-response relationship of smoking is not linear where cardiovascular effects are concerned (it is in the case of cancer). From a paper published in Am J Public Health:

Although lung cancer has, in general, a linear dose-response relationship with tobacco use, the risk for cardiovascular disease, which accounts for a significant proportion of tobacco-related illness and death, becomes evident with the consumption of 3 to 5 cigarettes a day. Risk for acute myocardial infarction and coronary heart disease associated with exposure to tobacco smoke appears to be nonlinear at low doses and increases rapidly with relatively small doses, such as those received from environmental tobacco smoke or from smoking just a few cigarettes a day. Even small exposures increase platelet aggregation and induce arterial and hemodynamic changes. Pregnant women who smoke as few as 5 cigarettes a day are more likely to have low-birthweight babies.

Cancer is the leading cause of death among smokers in the United States, with lung cancer responsible for nearly 80% of tobacco-related deaths. However, cardiovascular disease (all forms combined) is the leading cause of all tobacco-related mortality, including both smokers and those exposed to environmental tobacco smoke. Cardiovascular disease is second only to respiratory disease (i.e., chronic bronchitis and emphysema) as the leading cause of tobacco-related morbidity.2 Cardiovascular disease may be caused by exposure to carbon monoxide and other combustion products, which suggests that any “reduced risk” tobacco product that is ignited and inhaled is unlikely to significantly decrease tobacco-related illness and death from cardiovascular causes.

So, smoking just a few cigs a day does appreciable damage regardless if you smoke more than that (again talking about cardiovascular health. Cancer is directly related to how much one smokes).
 

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I live in Kentuky where they grow tobacco just down the road from me. Acres of the stuff. I'm suprised farmers haven't started burning down vape shops here. The good news, I have 18 vape shops within 45 minutes of my house. :)
Wow 18? That must be awesome. I have on the other side of the city and thats about 30 mins away. And like 3 in a 2hour radius. I dont live in philly but i know they made it illegal to vape in public.
 

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It may not be as simple as that. Studies show the dose-response relationship of smoking is not linear where cardiovascular effects are concerned (it is in the case of cancer). From a paper published in Am J Public Health:



So, smoking just a few cigs a day does appreciable damage regardless if you smoke more than that (again talking about cardiovascular health. Cancer is directly related to how much one smokes).

I read where many people say nicotine is like caffeine. When the study talks about tobacco use correlation to cardiovascular disease and heart attacks is it depending on the method in which one doses as well? So for example those that use nicotine replacement patches or snuff have the same risk as a cigarette smoker because of nicotine alone or from the combination of smoke and nicotine or just the intake of nicotine?
 

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Heard the same commercial on the Radio yesterday. Sucks, but not much you can do about it. It isn't the Station, it is considered a PSA and probably the work or the CDC.

Wondering why they don't release a - Chantix made my try jumping out a 10 Story window - commercial.:eek:
 

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I see them quite often on TV here in California. They mostly say stuff like kids will start smoking e-cigs cuz you can get candy flavors and that the vapor contains chemicals and trace elements that are even more hazardous to you than smoking. It's to the point now where I stick to watching Netflix and streaming my shows.

California has an agenda when it come to vaping. They are seriously hurting for that tobacco settlement money they are not getting because of vaping.
 

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California has an agenda when it come to vaping. They are seriously hurting for that tobacco settlement money they are not getting because of vaping.

That's why I'm trying to buy up as much gear and juice as I can before they start taxing the crap out of it.
 
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California has an agenda when it come to vaping. They are seriously hurting for that tobacco settlement money they are not getting because of vaping.

If our state had any brains and started to properly tax a certain "medical industry" thats really thriving here like they should be, instead of hassling the people going about it in the proper lawfully stated way, most of our tax problems would be easily solved in like a year.
 

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I read where many people say nicotine is like caffeine. When the study talks about tobacco use correlation to cardiovascular disease and heart attacks is it depending on the method in which one doses as well? So for example those that use nicotine replacement patches or snuff have the same risk as a cigarette smoker because of nicotine alone or from the combination of smoke and nicotine or just the intake of nicotine?

The way I see it, reducing 50% of smoked cigarettes has a great impact on cancer-related diseases, but not so much on cardiovascular diseases.

Of course, greatly reducing the risk of cancer-related diseases alone, when you cut smoking to an half with the help of an e-cig is *still* a good thing that most ANTI's refuse to see. To a great deal of smokers, "quitting cold-turkey" means stopping smoking for a fer weeks or months only, and then returning to the *full* risks of tobbaco smoke. Even if you do not stop smoking completely with an e-cig, I thinks it's best to accept the *lower* risk permanently, than simply having "no-risk" for a little while and then returning to *full* risk again.
On the other hand, the not-so-reduced cardiovascular risk is *still* related to tobacco smoke, not nicotine by itself. Not a problem when people completely quit smoking with e-cigs(*).
Just my 2 cents. :)

(*) ETA:

From my personal experience (for example, a close friend and family, ALL heavy smokers of them, where EVERYONE has managed to completely quit smoking - and one of them has stopped smoking AND vaping after smoking 2-3 PADS for more than 20 years), I'm pretty sure that for each whiner complaining that "Poor me, e-cigs are not an effective quitting method [for *me*, in *my* specific case]", that radio station could easily have found 10 more people who were sucessful at their quitting attempts.
But of course, spreading the truth by telling those testimonies does *not* help the agenda of people or organizations who have not-so-covered economic interests against the e-cigarette. :(
 

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Wow im still in shock. I was sitting on the grass at my local county pool vaping away listening to my local radio station play. Next thing i know I hear a commercial with a woman saying "I tried to vape in order to quit smoking and only ended up smoking both." The basic point was dont try vaping because cold turkey is the only way that works. If you could have seen my face! I was in shock and disgust all at once. Still cant believe it.
That's one person that vaping didn't work for, it happens but they broadcast the minority, maybe the hundreds of thousands it has worked for should write in, might make them shut up hey..
 

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I live in Kentuky where they grow tobacco just down the road from me. Acres of the stuff. I'm suprised farmers haven't started burning down vape shops here. The good news, I have 18 vape shops within 45 minutes of my house. :)

thats an odd thought... nearly all of the nic that is used to create vape juice comes from tobacco... and from what I have read, it takes more tobacco to create nic juice than to make a ciggie, therefore more tobacco has to be used to make the nic juice, which means the growers sell more tobacco... :)
 

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Heard the same commercial on the Radio yesterday. Sucks, but not much you can do about it. It isn't the Station, it is considered a PSA and probably the work or the CDC.

Wondering why they don't release a - Chantix made my try jumping out a 10 Story window - commercial.:eek:

Chantix is a dangerous drug.... I lost a good friend due to Chantix... it does cause suicidal conditions...
 
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