I heard an anti vape commercial on my local radio station today!

[xtwosm0kesx]

It may not be as simple as that. Studies show the dose-response relationship of smoking is not linear where cardiovascular effects are concerned (it is in the case of cancer). From a paper published in Am J Public Health:



So, smoking just a few cigs a day does appreciable damage regardless if you smoke more than that (again talking about cardiovascular health. Cancer is directly related to how much one smokes).

I understand that, otherwise the day after you stopped smoking you'd feel like a million bucks and be 100% healthy, but it doesnt work like that obviously.

That said, if you're trying to argue that smoking 1 cigarette a day is same as smoking 20 a day, im going to to have to disagree.

Every cigarette not smoked is % of harm reduction, imo, thats the nice thing about harm reduction, it doesn't require nice whole numbers, even fractional health gains add up given enough time.

 

[vincom]

its simple to understand really, just follow the money.

the only people talking negative about vaping are health organizations, big tobacco, big pharma and govt officials worrying about depleting tobacco tax revenues.
as for the first three their concerns are the same as the govt officials, its all about the money tobacco has parlayed to those groups.
my sig below says it all.

 

[Mad Scientist]

I need to do a commercial. I started vaping and haven't smoked in about 3 years. Now I can breath and will likely live much, much longer. I'm worried my retirement savings won't cover those years of addition life; woe is me lol.

 

[Robino1]

I need to do a commercial. I started vaping and haven't smoked in about 3 years. Now I can breath and will likely live much, much longer. I'm worried my retirement savings won't cover those years of addition life; woe is me lol.

 

[choochoogranny]

Mad Scientist, you living long enough to collect social security and medicare is one of the reasons the feds are concerned. Those two programs are due to go broke in the near future especially now that the "baby boomers" are starting to collect.

 

[Mad Scientist]

Mad Scientist, you living long enough to collect social security and medicare is one of the reasons the feds are concerned. Those two programs are due to go broke in the near future especially now that the "baby boomers" are starting to collect.

Yeah, I don't expect to get a nickel of what I've paid in for so many years. If I was the type who wanted to rely on the government for everything I'd move to California or something lol. All I ask of government is to leave me alone. Take my money as expected but just leave me alone. It's not much to ask and they still can't deliver lol. They take my money and use it to fund agencies that want to harass me (hello FDA, are you listening?). Not much of a bargain.

 

[catlady60]

Wondering why they don't release a - Chantix made my try jumping out a 10 Story window - commercial.

That's because BP will lobby block any commercial that exposes Chantix as the killer it is puts NRT in a bad light.

 

[DazAdams]

I get so annoyed with the "kids will start vaping coz they can get candy flavours" rubbish. Message to kids, just eat candy instead. It's a lot cheaper.

 

[Hans Wermhat]

California has an agenda when it come to vaping.

It's not just Cali. BT funds more political campaigns than any other industry except BP. Both have a vested interest in keeping folks on the analogs. BT profits directly, and BP makes billions every year off smoking related illnesses. And the government actually wants you to die at a "reasonable age" to save the tax dollars they are spending on Medicare to fund their "fundamental transformation". ( Did y'all hear about this crap this week????)

 

[chopdoc]

It's not just Cali. BT funds more political campaigns than any other industry except BP. Both have a vested interest in keeping folks on the analogs. BT profits directly, and BP makes billions every year off smoking related illnesses. And the government actually wants you to die at a "reasonable age" to save the tax dollars they are spending on Medicare to fund their "fundamental transformation". ( Did y'all hear about this crap this week????)

Yes, many politicians have their hands in BT pockets yet thats not what my comment was about. Due to vaping, California is really hurting and are making anti vaping commercials. Between lost revenue from taxes from the decline in smoking in California as well as not being able to meet their interest and repayment obligation from the tobacco settlement of 1998 bonds they sold puts California in bankruptcy. Thats why the anti vape commercials the state of California are making and airing. Its not just California who will default on the tobacco settlement bond, many other states will also default yet California is the only one that I heard of telling people its better for them to smoke than to vape.

 

[ThePulver]

Whaaaat? Are you saying an old dying medium was pushing antiquated logic and getting paid by giant corporations to do so? Color me surprised.

 

[Caffeine7]

Tomatoes and eggplant contain nicotine. If we were to extract it from there it would take the steam out of their argument. And there would be less eggplant for eating. Win-win

 

[DaveSignal]

Wow im still in shock. I was sitting on the grass at my local county pool vaping away listening to my local radio station play. Next thing i know I hear a commercial with a woman saying "I tried to vape in order to quit smoking and only ended up smoking both." The basic point was dont try vaping because cold turkey is the only way that works. If you could have seen my face! I was in shock and disgust all at once. Still cant believe it.

Isn't alternating vaping and smoking healthier than just smoking the whole time? Kind of like, "I tried to eat vegetables in order to quit eating donuts all day but I only ended up eating vegatables some of the time and donuts sometimes too."