I may have to quit vaping - waaaaaaaaa!
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I can try to lie to myself, and almost always to family and friends, but, I have had days when my chest became tight and I thought it was due to excessive vaping and I really think it probably was related. Most days I am so much healthier than before; no more coughing, no more allergy symptoms, no more hoarse, sore throat. That being said, I was a two plus pack a day smoker for 35 years. I had copd and apnea, I do not have those anymore, so maybe, just maybe the tight chest is simply an allergy for real this time or a touch of a cold. Anyway, thats what I'm telling myself and I'm not changing till I'm proven wrong.
Hey Pammers. I found out after going to fertility doctors. My wife and I weren't having luck and it turned out that I am missing my vas deferens. No sperm, no baby. By far the leading cause of this is CF so they ran a genetics test and sure enough, I have 2 CFTR mutations which indicate CF. Since CF is a sliding scale, from "dead by 20" to no major symptoms, we're in a grey area. I have no chest or pancreatic symptoms thankfully but who knows what the future may hold.
There is a very easy test you can do called a sweat test that is the gold standard for testing for CF manifestations. CF is all about having too much salt in the body which thickens things up. This is likely my next test along with a lung function test. If noting comes of it, I will check in every year just to be sure. If it does, there are treatments to help out.
Most adult diagnoses come from either my case, male infertility, or a longshot recommendation to someone who has suffered from lung issues their whole life. If you are experiencing a lot of lung issues with no explanation from doctors, you may want to look into the sweat test. If it comes back higher than normal, they may want to do genetic testing to be 100% sure as well as determine treatment.
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One more thing regarding "tight chest"... I'm not sure what this means exactly, but I suspect it is what is commonly referred to as "air hunger". This is where you feel the need to take a deep breath and sometimes you just can't. I began experiencing this on and off once I started getting bad news back from the doctors. The number one cause of air hunger is stress and panic attacks. I did a lot of reading on this and found it is a viscous circle. You have it, then you worry about it, which makes it worse.
There was also a bug going around at work that could have caused it for me as well. But once I got my results yesterday, it came back. Today it's better, so who knows. My advice to anyone experiencing this is to try to relax. Take a long bath and immerse yourself into something you like. Don't think about it until later. Then, see if it bothered you less. Very good chance it is just stress and panic related.
There was also a bug going around at work that could have caused it for me as well. But once I got my results yesterday, it came back. Today it's better, so who knows. My advice to anyone experiencing this is to try to relax. Take a long bath and immerse yourself into something you like. Don't think about it until later. Then, see if it bothered you less. Very good chance it is just stress and panic related.
Numanoid, I wish you many years of healthy, symptom-free living. Thank you for sharing your story, I will keep all your advice in mind.
I meant to do it a few days ago but finally just now got around to trying the unflavored 100% VG juice shd was kind enough to send me. It feels totally different when I inhale than what my usual juice feels - actually, I don't feel it in my chest at all compared to my pg/vg flavored juices which make my lungs feel tight and congested when I inhale. Next step is to try the plain PG, and then add in flavoring to see how it affects me. I really appreciate shd's generosity and help in figuring this out so I can, hopefully, continue vaping.
I meant to do it a few days ago but finally just now got around to trying the unflavored 100% VG juice shd was kind enough to send me. It feels totally different when I inhale than what my usual juice feels - actually, I don't feel it in my chest at all compared to my pg/vg flavored juices which make my lungs feel tight and congested when I inhale. Next step is to try the plain PG, and then add in flavoring to see how it affects me. I really appreciate shd's generosity and help in figuring this out so I can, hopefully, continue vaping.
I'll be watching this thread...good luck to you Pammers. One thing I noticed, you were completely off nicotine for quite a while, then went back to 12 mg. You could easily do 0 nic obviously...12 is way too high for me, I am pushing it at 6, usually end up around 3-4 if I DIY or if 4 is available.
No. They gave me a little container for collecting sputum to be tested, but I wasn't coughing anything up. I learned yesterday that the pneumonia was in my right lung only, and that my left lung was partially collapsed. I swear the doctors don't tell you anything unless you ask the exact right questions.
I was thinking the same thing. As soon as I complete my experiments with the pure VG and pure PG, with and without flavoring, I'm going to place an order with low or no nicotine. I didn't miss it for the entire 7 days I was hospitalized.
I was thinking that if you had a buildup of PG or VG that might be a clue .. oh well ..
Good luck ..
Thank you. I really tried to cough something up because I wanted to know myself.
The hospital set me up with oxygen to use at home. The oxygen gets filtered through a water tank to add moisture. It went through my mind yesterday that it would be pleasant to have a nice scent or flavor in the water, and then, "Hmmm....maybe I could add some e-juice flavoring." I immediately discarded that idea as not being safe. So, now I'm wondering, if I don't believe adding flavoring to oxygen that I breathe into my lungs is safe, what makes me think that it's safe to inhale it directly in a PG/VG mixed base?
That would be great! I don't do the tobacco flavors. I'm learning to like the fruit flavors and some of the bakery flavors now that I've laid off the cinnamon. I like juices that have a little punch to them and that aren't too sweet. I'm not crazy about the coffee flavors even though I'm a coffee fiend in real life.
The more I vape this pure VG, the more certain I am that the problem must be either PG or the flavoring. If it is the flavoring, I hope it's only some of them.
Overall, yes I am, thanks for asking. The tightness in my chest seems to get worse every day though, I really feel it when I vape. I'm excited about the way the plain VG feels, or rather doesn't feel, in my lungs.
Me, personally, have always been more concerned about the flavorings than anything else .. I mean, PG / VG and nic is pretty cut and dried, but we really don't know what goes into the liquid .. no label is required ..
That would be great! I don't do the tobacco flavors. I'm learning to like the fruit flavors and some of the bakery flavors now that I've laid off the cinnamon. I like juices that have a little punch to them and that aren't too sweet. I'm not crazy about the coffee flavors even though I'm a coffee fiend in real life.
The more I vape this pure VG, the more certain I am that the problem must be either PG or the flavoring. If it is the flavoring, I hope it's only some of them.
Heading out now...but drop me a PM & we'll see what I have...
I'm 100% concerned about flavorings, just as you are.
I updated "my thread", lol with some sources for organic VG flavors & eliquids. I've already received a bunch of them in the mail, & even made a 2nd order with 2 places. I've only been vaping them for 2 days now, so it's difficult to have any true results on my "identification of the culprit", but in my mind, i'm definitely feeling 100% safer & really praying that 100% organic/100% VG works for me to eliminate my problems.
I updated "my thread", lol with some sources for organic VG flavors & eliquids. I've already received a bunch of them in the mail, & even made a 2nd order with 2 places. I've only been vaping them for 2 days now, so it's difficult to have any true results on my "identification of the culprit", but in my mind, i'm definitely feeling 100% safer & really praying that 100% organic/100% VG works for me to eliminate my problems.
Pammers,
We are all different---on different medications, etc, and one should always check with a medical professional. I am not a medical professional, and struggling to find out if or what in vaping may be causing me problems. I have severe asthma(amongst other things)-on 02 24/7. I think I thought that I wouldn't have the exacerbations, etc any more. Not true!
It is known that Propylene Glycol can be an irritant to the upper respiratory tract.
"Exposure to mists may cause eye irritation, as well as upper respiratory tract irritation. Inhalation of the propylene glycol vapors appears to present no significant hazard in ordinary applications. However, limited human experience indicates that inhalation of propylene glycol mists could be irritating to some individuals. Therefore inhalation exposure to mists of these materials should be avoided. Some research has suggested that propylene glycol not be used in applications where inhalation exposure or human eye contact with the spray mists of these materials is likely, such as fogs for theatrical productions."
"Additionally, some electronic cigarette users who inhale propylene glycol vapor may experience dryness of the throat or shortness of breath ."
"Recent findings in a Swedish study strongly suggest a connection between air-concentrations of propylene glycol in houses and development of asthma and allergic reactions, such as rhinitis, in children."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propylene_glycol
http://www.ehow.com/list_5943483_adverse-effects-fog-machine-vapors.html
http://www.mindfully.org/Health/Stage-Fog-Risk.htm
http://www.absoluteastronomy.com/topics/Fog_machine
http://oem.bmj.com/content/58/10/649.abstract
Whenever I am having problems with mucous, phlegm, gunk it is not the same now as when I smoked-first thing enters my mind in viewing is "vg"!! SO, is it vg, pg, flavors, nicotine irritation, equipment malfunction that the e-liquid is masking, combination that might be contributing to my respiratory problems. I do feel that high % of pg causes me more problems. This may be psychological, but oh, well. I do hope that you figure out what may be causing your prob and I hope we can all share in our problems and solutions with vaping. We all know that ideally "no smoking-no vaping" would be the best as all we were meant to inhale into our lungs is clean air.
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