I think we need to STOP recommending a Istick 50

[Robert Cromwell]

That's fine.

However, some of their requisites would disqualify a bunch of good products as well.

I like that they're there for consumer safety. Though I prefer having the choice.

I have a hand full of electronics that aren't certified and are somewhat costly. They work just as well as their certified counterparts (some much better) at 1/5 to 1/2 the price or better.

But i also keep a keen eye out for quality products instead of just buying the cheapest garbage China can mass produce.

I own my fair share of fine China.

ETA; Q: what would happen with mech mods if UL listing were mandatory on everything?

Cause I'm not giving them up, either.

Tapatyped

We have new users starting up from scratch in high powered vaping and knowing nothing about ohms law or battery safety. I am surprised we do not have more problems than we do. Mech mods would have to have overcurrent protection and hybrids would be out of there because of the inherent safety issues, or face redisign. They would have to be labelled with the proper the proper battery to use as well. The firing button would have to have a good way to prevent it from being operated inadvertantly. they would also have to pass drop tests as well. And a user manual would have to be provided listing acceptable attachments and resistances of coils to use.

this would be a moving forward thing so you could keep what you have or make your own.

 

[beckdg]

We have new users starting up from scratch in high powered vaping and knowing nothing about ohms law or battery safety. I am surprised we do not have more problems than we do. Mech mods would have to have overcurrent protection and hybrids would be out of there because of the inherent safety issues, or face redisign. They would have to be labelled with the proper the proper battery to use as well. The firing button would have to have a good way to prevent it from being operated inadvertantly. they would also have to pass drop tests as well. And a user manual would have to be provided listing acceptable attachments and resistances of coils to use.

this would be a moving forward thing so you could keep what you have or make your own.

Fantastic list of reasons why I don't want any of my equipment UL listed. Thanks.

And none of my equipment has issues unless you count my nitecore chargers which carry the following pictured certifications...

Damn shame users refuse to put disclaimers on their recommendations...

Tapatyped

 

[Robert Cromwell]

And I repeat had the Istick 50's been certified we would not have this problem.

 

[beckdg]

And I repeat had the Istick 50's been certified we would not have this problem.

Really?

How about this...

If people don't flock to buy cheap garbage in droves, the market for cheap garbage wouldn't flourish?

I don't need no stinking nanny.

And I damn sure don't need you telling my nanny what I'm allowed to buy.

This is the problem with this society. The more complacent (stupid) we get with "protecting" the consumer, the more the consumer needs protecting.

30 yrs ago, you got your finger caught in a sprocket, you didn't put it there again. Witnesses learned without having to repeat the process.

Now... finger in sprocket? Build room around sprocket with dead bolts on the doors...

IE... nobody learns

Or better yet... let idiots do what they please and see if we can't continue to improve on human intelligence by natural selection.

Oof...

Tapatyped

 

[Ohm Gnome]

Really?

How about this...

If people don't flock to buy cheap garbage in droves, the market for cheap garbage wouldn't flourish?

I don't need no stinking nanny.

And I damn sure don't need you telling my nanny what I'm allowed to buy.

This is the problem with this society. The more complacent (stupid) we get with "protecting" the consumer, the more the consumer needs protecting.

30 yrs ago, you got your finger caught in a sprocket, you didn't put it there again. Witnesses learned without having to repeat the process.

Now... finger in sprocket? Build room around sprocket with dead bolts on the doors...

IE... nobody learns

Or better yet... let idiots do what they please and see if we can't continue to improve on human intelligence by natural selection.

Oof...

Tapatyped

I agree completely but in my defense at the time I didn't know the Istick was a bargain bin paper weight. I paid 74$ for it not knowing anything about vaping. It's the same with fast-food. They suck because we have grown to accept if not appreciate sucking. Society has fallen. No doubt about that

 

[beckdg]

I agree completely but in my defense at the time I didn't know the Istick was a bargain bin paper weight. I paid 74$ for it not knowing anything about vaping. It's the same with fast-food. They suck because we have grown to accept if not appreciate sucking. Society has fallen. No doubt about that

Your retailer bought cheap garbage and sold it to you as expensive garbage masquerading as normal gear. Not your fault.

Completely agree with the food parallel... on a level most can't comprehend. Good comparison.

Tapatyped

 

[Ohm Gnome]

Even t.v. shows. Like that brain rotting "reality" stuff or "music" where" singers" voices are manipulated. The masses buy what they're selling so why would they stop selling that junk

 

[Ohm Gnome]

I'm sorry going off topic but have you seen the Crackerjacks "toys " the past twenty years. They're always paper. Always!

 

[greatimp81]

You know I use a Eleaf Istick 30w for most of my gear right now. I prefer regulated devices and it is not that hard to verify that you have new kit. It just means that you have to be careful who you buy from. As for the safety issues then how about we get rid of all the silica wick units on the market. Do you think it is safe to be heating fiber glass up to the temperature that most systems are pushing? I think that people need some information then to make their own decisions. I will continue to recommend the IStick as a intro box mod. I think it sucks that you got a dud. However I have had other regulated devices that did not work for me or died within a few days from purchase. I did not go and try to ruin the company making or vending them.

 

[Thrasher]

Funny part is UL has sued several Chinese companies for producing cloned UL labels.

UL will have zero effect on Chinese goods

No one here saw the upside down battery holder inside a mod with a ul sticker on it picture? Lol

 

[WillyZee]

I'm sorry going off topic but have you seen the Crackerjacks "toys " the past twenty years. They're always paper. Always!

Crackerjack toys? ... those are so yesterday ... we've got Kinder Surprises now

However, we aren't allowed to bring em into the US

gotta save the children ... from the toys inside the chocolate Kinder eggs

 

[Ohm Gnome]

Lord God you obviously haven't read this thread. Read it then comment if you still see fit

You know I use a Eleaf Istick 30w for most of my gear right now. I prefer regulated devices and it is not that hard to verify that you have new kit. It just means that you have to be careful who you buy from. As for the safety issues then how about we get rid of all the silica wick units on the market. Do you think it is safe to be heating fiber glass up to the temperature that most systems are pushing? I think that people need some information then to make their own decisions. I will continue to recommend the IStick as a intro box mod. I think it sucks that you got a dud. However I have had other regulated devices that did not work for me or died within a few days from purchase. I did not go and try to ruin the company making or vending them.

 

[Ohm Gnome]

I think ima comment on this. Zi ain't got no uses fo reedin

 

[beckdg]

The silica wick convo has been beaten to death and archived countless times also.

Tapatyped

 

[Shawn Delegal]

I have 2 of the iStick 50W and love them. They work perfectly. So the haters out there...have you owned one?

I do! I have a blue Istick 50w And I love it.

 

[greatimp81]

Lord God you obviously haven't read this thread. Read it then comment if you still see fit

I have read the thread through. I will make sure to advise the v2 or the IStick 30 w. I have also read the support info from the company. I have also probably used more different rigs that you have. I think I still have a 309 thread and an 808 Kgo from 2007 sitting around here some where. Though I may have recycled the batteries. Yes they had some defective batteries. But I also remember the Screwdriver mod blowing people's jaws off in England in 2008. While I am concerned about a batch of bad units. It does not mean I will stop looking at or even recommending things that I feel might be a good fit for an individual. I also know several people who have the IStick 50 w and they have been using them just fine for months. There is even a Vape lounge in my area that uses IStick 30 w as demo devices for RDA's and RTA's. So I understand you thinking that this might be a bad product. However you have not changed my mind about the company or the device it's self.

 

[Ohm Gnome]

Well if you actually read this you would know I own and love my Istick mini for my Nautilas. You'd also know I think the 30watt is a solid product. You'd also know my problem is with new members being advised to get the 50 watt without telling them some have dangerous problems. You'd also know the one beef I have with Eleaf is the fact they admit the older ones can do this yet refuses a recall so older stock is still being sold to unsuspecting newbies. You'd also know I never once said I wanted to" ruin the company making or vending them" .

 

[Ohm Gnome]

I doubt you actually read this more than you doubt my motives

 

[beckdg]

You'd also know I never once said I wanted to" ruin the company making or vending them" .

You can admit it. I won't tell anybody.

Tapatyped

 

[Ohm Gnome]

You can admit it. I won't tell anybody.

Tapatyped

I really don't lol. I wish I could persuade them to issue a recall and I explained that to them in my last email with them today.