I vape EVERYWHERE

[tescela]

The truth is, when I am out and about I don't want to be bothered. I'm not an Amway salesman. I don't want to do a product demonstration for anyone. It is my prerogative to enjoy time out without interruption. It has nothing to do with "growing a pair" I do what I can to support the ecig movement through my elected representatives and through purchasing from those companies that are in a position to take up the fight as well.

I don't have to get in anyone's face to make a point.

It would not surprise me if the action of some who have posted on this thread do as much harm as good to the ecig movement.

Your position speaks for itself: "The truth is, when I am out and about I don't want to be bothered."

To be clear, I accept the limits you place on your activism, Elendil. I hope that no more than a few other e-cig users will share that limit, but I accept your personal choice.

Fortunately, I'll bet that most people on this forum want to do everything they can to help analog smokers and encourage public acceptance of e-cigarettes.


"It would not surprise me if the action of some who have posted on this thread do as much harm as good to the ecig movement."

The same could be said for ANY action. Isn't that the typical justification for apathy?

I could be wrong...it certainly wouldn't be the first time. However, I humbly submit that if we don't do everything we can to maximize public acceptance and smoker conversion to e-cigarettes, then the Big Tobacco/Big Pharma push to ban e-cigs will not encounter sufficient opposition. If that happens, there will not BE an ecig movement.

 

[Elendil]

Your position speaks for itself: "The truth is, when I am out and about I don't want to be bothered."

To be clear, I accept the limits you place on your activism, Elendil. I hope that no more than a few other e-cig users will share that limit, but I accept your personal choice.

Fortunately, I'll bet that most people on this forum want to do everything they can to help analog smokers and encourage public acceptance of e-cigarettes.


"It would not surprise me if the action of some who have posted on this thread do as much harm as good to the ecig movement."

The same could be said for ANY action. Isn't that the typical justification for apathy?

I could be wrong...it certainly wouldn't be the first time. However, I humbly submit that if we don't do everything we can to maximize public acceptance and smoker conversion to e-cigarettes, then the Big Tobacco/Big Pharma push to ban e-cigs will not encounter sufficient opposition. If that happens, there will not BE an ecig movement.

I appreciate the even keel response. I do take issue with the stance that if a person not brazenly vaping in public at every opportunity, that they are failing in their duty to support and further the ecig cause. We simply have a different viewpoint. I certainly vape openly at my office, where I have discussed it with my staff and am happy to answer any quesitons that are posed to me, I just don't want to be in a position of being a walking spokesperson. Even if I were, I don't think the "in your face" approach that I have seen discussed here would be the most effective way to go.

 

[Lazarus]

Most people that I encounter while vaping are OK with it since they can't smell it. The Vapor is a bit startling at first, since it looks like smoke.

The big deal IMO is the second hand smoke or lack there of and the lack of odor. This will allow a foothold back in public use. People usually don't care what you do if they can't smell you/it.

 

[CJsKee]

The truth is, when I am out and about I don't want to be bothered. I'm not an Amway salesman. I don't want to do a product demonstration for anyone. It is my prerogative to enjoy time out without interruption. It has nothing to do with "growing a pair" I do what I can to support the ecig movement through my elected representatives and through purchasing from those companies that are in a position to take up the fight as well.

I don't have to get in anyone's face to make a point.

It would not surprise me if the action of some who have posted on this thread do as much harm as good to the ecig movement.

I totally agree with you Elendil (even tho I couldn't "grow a pair" if I wanted to). There is/was a running dispute concerning vaping regardless of any smoking bans. I just feel that, since I hate confrontation, it would not be worth it to me to vape where smoking is not allowed. Also, just common courtesy goes along way.

 

[tescela]

It sounds like we all have different approaches, but shared goals.

To be clear: I'm not an "in your face" vaper, because I don't want to give people a reason -- even if it is emotional -- to oppose vaping.

In order to educate, though, I believe I have to vape openly in most environments and take the risk of getting into a confrontation. Even if that happens, I find that soft words and careful explanation defuse the situation. By taking that approach, I've never had a single "confrontation" that didn't end with the other parties supporting vaping.

Bottom line: in my humble opinion, we shouldn't seek confrontation, but we shouldn't shy away from it, either. Handled correctly, confrontation is merely another opportunity to educate.

 

[Pinepig]

It sounds like we all have different approaches, but shared goals.

To be clear: I'm not an "in your face" vaper, because I don't want to give people a reason -- even if it is emotional -- to oppose vaping.

In order to educate, though, I believe I have to vape openly in most environments and take the risk of getting into a confrontation. Even if that happens, I find that soft words and careful explanation defuse the situation. By taking that approach, I've never had a single "confrontation" that didn't end with the other parties supporting vaping.

Bottom line: in my humble opinion, we shouldn't seek confrontation, but we shouldn't shy away from it, either. Handled correctly, confrontation is merely another opportunity to educate.

I agree, I'm a new vaper and I'll pull it out and vape whenever I feel the need. The biggest thing I have found with anything new is to have the right attitude if somebody issues a " challenge "" to you. if you're a friendly type of person that plays well with others 99.9% of the time you'll make a new friend and educate a new person about the new technology, the other .1% doesn't really matter, they wouldn't have liked it no matter where you were or what you were doing. If you tend to be an ... anytime somebody looks at you, by all means do not vape in public.

Back when I did time as a public servant ( Pinepig, park pork, park ranger ) our motto was always " educate before retaliate ", it always pays to be nice first.

 

[heatzill]

I still tend to hide mine when smoking in the public

 

[tescela]

What happened to this thread?!! Where is a forum moderator when you need one?

 

[ZambucaLu]

OK folks, please keep this OT or it will get closed.

Thank you.

Lu

 

[antialiased]

I, like the OP, used to vape everywhere but hide my vaping. Now, I just vape everywhere. It has been my experience that many more people approached me or questioned me about it when I was trying to hide it than since I have started behaving normally.

Have since (over the last month) vaped in coffee shops, gas stations, convenience stores, walmarts, bars, law school, book stores, restaurants, McDonalds, etc. and have only been approached or questioned once, and that was by a guy working at a coffee shop whose friend owned one.

My theory is that if you are being sneaky, people are more apt to notice - certainly holds true for when my daughter is trying to be sneaky.

 

[hedonistfreak]

I opened this thread thinking cool someone w/ my Smoking Everywhere brand and using it "everywhere". Sadly that wasn't the case. Your hiding it and then stating you do it everywhere. Come on your fooling yourself. You think more then twice when you cover the LED light, and hold in your vapor to hide any vapor. You ought to just smoke it like you can.

I bought my e-cig from the mall. Paid a lot for the luxury of helping me quit and to alleviate the 2nd hand smoke and feeling of being a 2nd class citizen. I've used my e-cig in bars, steak houses, and family restaurants. I like not having to leave the table between appetizers and my meal. I've used it in other malls and banks. Basically I'm trying it anywhere I can for the novelty of its newness. I'm not annoying w/ it but I'm not hiding it either. Only twice have people inquired and I'm quick to explain how cool it is. I like not having to stand in the rain b/c I'm banned from smoking. I like not having my house full of smoke and my clothes not stinking of lingering smoke. I also like not having to deal w/ ashtrays.

I do agree w/

I look at it this way........When I was using analogs there were times that I have to go several hours without a cig. If I could do that, then I most certainly can refrain from vaping for a period of time where it may not be appropriate or welcome.

which is why I would stop if asked to and don't try standing out about it. I think for now I'm hooked on the novelty of it all

 

[GreySaber]

I opened this thread thinking cool someone w/ my Smoking Everywhere brand and using it "everywhere". Sadly that wasn't the case. Your hiding it and then stating you do it everywhere. Come on your fooling yourself. You think more then twice when you cover the LED light, and hold in your vapor to hide any vapor. You ought to just smoke it like you can.

Right there with you HF. The only place I hide it is IN CLASS..... Because it could be a distraction to other students.... So there I vape out of say, a shirt pocket and blow it down my collar, and only take the occasional puff anyway.......

In the grocery, the school hallways, the class woodshop, burger king, I vape. Hell, a vape friend was giving me a bottle of juice he didn't like, and did we ever get looks in line at BK! No one asked though. Here he is... handing over this tiny little bottle of juice...

He was complaining about how being a Juice DIY guy made him feel like a drug dealer, and he's mostly into it for the flavor, not the nicotine! Seems a sack of menthol crystals looks alot like crystal .....

 

[RandallFlagg]

A guy on the other shift at my job brought one in about 2 months ago. The bosses there have no issues with it at all. He ultimately went back to analogs after a couple of weeks.

When my 901 and screwdriver arrive, I'll use 'em without catching any flak from management.
As far as the other workers there....tough. I don't work for them. THey can whine to the boss -who already gave approval.

 

[Sar]

I really vape outside only. If I'm at a bar, I go outside with the other smokers, if I am at home, I do it outside, etc, etc.

I've shown people indoors what it is like. They don't really smell anything except a little of the flavor.

Anyway, I don't take advantage of the indoor smoking for a few reasons. One, being I want this to be a replacement for my tobacco smoking, not a replacement PLUS a new habit~too much of ANYTHING is not good for you. Another reason is although it is likely to be significantly safer than cigs, technically, no studies have confirmed. Never hurts to be safe.

But in the meantime, ecigs are a great replacement!

When I used to smoke analogs, I would smoke anytime I was outside. What I mean is that I would ALWAYS smoke whenever I was outside because I wasn't sure how soon I'll be able to leave for a smoke. Even if I was outside just to walk to another building (2 minute walk) I would immediately light a cig to take advantage of the opportunity. I don't think I was ever outside without a smoke.

With e-cigs that changed. I don't need to worry that I will not be able to go outside. Actually, I hardly ever vape outside these days. Overall, I vape less than when I smoked. That is mainly because I am able to vape inside when I need to.

 

[Zben504]

How do we expect to get the word out when were afraid to let them be seen? I think we can raise much more awareness by showing them than some passing news story you were only half watching anyway.