I run a MVP. first one. At 5.0 volts with a kanger protank 1 With a 2.2 ohm coil. Hints tips or tricks on how to produce more vapor? Thinkin bout trying a protank 3 or a aero tank from kanger. (both dual coil) thinkin maybie Dual coil would do the trick. But for now what easy tricks can i do for more thick dence vape.
I want bigger clouds!!!!
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PT3 definitely produces more vapor... using a juice thats higher in VG does as well... then theres RBA's, Cotton Wicks, etc but that is sure to come in following posts!
personal experience tells me that more vapor means more spread out particles and less taste. I know that wasn't the question just wanted to tell you to expect it
The first step into getting more satisfaction out of ones vape is the atomizer. A good re-buildable atomizer, rba, was the path I choose to go. I find great joy, satisfaction and clouds of flavorful vape with wrapping my own coils, and optimizing the build for my rba's. Be warned though, once headed down the path of rba's, few ever come back. Then the search goes to trying to find the next rba that will out vape your current ones. Then ordering from Germany seems like the thing to do. it can get way out of control.
If not into building, then something like the Aspire Nautilus may satisfy your vape needs or maybe a carto tank, but where the real clouds, flavor and satisfaction is found is in the land of rba & rda.
If not into building, then something like the Aspire Nautilus may satisfy your vape needs or maybe a carto tank, but where the real clouds, flavor and satisfaction is found is in the land of rba & rda.
if you want a tank get the aspire nautilus. It is a little pricier then protanks but it performs much better. bigger clouds then the aerotank and the pt3. and if you want bigger clouds you can get into rebuildable's. Igo L can be bought for under 15$ and its a great starter rda. Looks good on a MVP also.
Im sorry but vaping isnt about looking like a choo choo train man. Don't give our community that image. I mean yeah having a big cloud is nice. But you dont need to go sub ohm and crank it to 6 volts.
Veg is vegetable glycerin. Typically one of the main ingredients in your liquid. I've gotten the same advice on getting into rebuildables, I've yet to have the time to properly tinker with it but the learning curve is annoying. Back to the juice I'm one of the odd balls that prefers my juice 100% vg. IMO pg leaves a faint chemical taste and I feel vg gives me a cleaner taste. It's all about what works for you. Ps read reread and read again before jumping into rba/rda's. Place a home made faulty coil on the wrong battery and you've got yourself a nice little pipebomb.
Get an rda w/ a low ohm coil on mech mod with a Sony vtc4 battery. Do some research first though. It can be dangerous if you don't know what you're doing.
cape somewhere really cold. j/k 
"bigger cloud" requires
1) hot coils - run high voltage with lower resistance atomizer. i think pro tank atty will go down to 1.8.
2) right juice - VG juice make bigger vapor
3) lots of air and juice - if your draw is tight, try drilling the holes at the base (3 holes) little bigger. try taking out the flavor wick for more juice flow
i don't recommend doing any rebuild at this point.
"bigger cloud" requires
1) hot coils - run high voltage with lower resistance atomizer. i think pro tank atty will go down to 1.8.
2) right juice - VG juice make bigger vapor
3) lots of air and juice - if your draw is tight, try drilling the holes at the base (3 holes) little bigger. try taking out the flavor wick for more juice flow
i don't recommend doing any rebuild at this point.
Just how far down the rabbit hole do you want to go and at what price point? Easy way is to switch juice. Switching to a dual coil tank is another. But, those have their maximum, as well as your MVP has it's limits as well.
There is a general path to getting thicker clouds. More power to the coils, multiple coils with a good juice. You've probably heard the term "mech mods" thrown about. those are Personal Vaporizers (PVs) that provide practically a direct link to the battery. That offers almost the full power of the battery to your coils. The MVP has a limit of 3 amps. That can be a good thing when you take safety into consideration. However, when you need more power to run two, or four coils, the MVP just won't be able to pull that off. With the MVP's 3amp limit, you'll just have to see which is better, a good single coil build, or two smaller dual coils...
As far as the better juice, E-juice is made primarily with four ingredients. Propylene Glycol (PG), Vegetable Glycerine (vg) Flavoring, and Niccotine.
Propylene Glycol is one of the best carriers of flavor. It is the consistency of water. A higher Propylene Glycol content will carry the flavor better, and have a stronger "throat hit" (the burn at the back of the throat). It also produced some vapor as well.
Vegetable Glycerine is also a carrier of flavor, but it doesn't do it as well as Propylene Glycol. It is thicker, and has the consistency of vegetable oil. It does, however, produce a greater cloud of vapor than the PG.
So, if you had a higher VG content, you will produce more clouds... albeit at the loss of some flavor and throat hit. if it had more PG, it would produce more flavor, and have more of a throat hit, but not produce as much vapor. the choice is yours.
With that said, you need to consider the thickness of the juice as a factor as well if you're doing a tank system. The thicker the juice, the slower it will wick. If you don't have a good ammount of liquid to atomize, you won't get as much vapor. Too liquidy, and you can flood the coils and they won't get hot enough to vaporize as well. So, you need to find a tank, and then find the ratio that works best for that tank.
An easy way to get more vapor is not an easy answer. It's more of a trial and error until you get what you like. If you want enough vapor it practically creates a lightning storm, do research on mechanical mods. And yes, I recommend doing TONNES of research before even considering that route, since there are some dangers as well.
There is a general path to getting thicker clouds. More power to the coils, multiple coils with a good juice. You've probably heard the term "mech mods" thrown about. those are Personal Vaporizers (PVs) that provide practically a direct link to the battery. That offers almost the full power of the battery to your coils. The MVP has a limit of 3 amps. That can be a good thing when you take safety into consideration. However, when you need more power to run two, or four coils, the MVP just won't be able to pull that off. With the MVP's 3amp limit, you'll just have to see which is better, a good single coil build, or two smaller dual coils...
As far as the better juice, E-juice is made primarily with four ingredients. Propylene Glycol (PG), Vegetable Glycerine (vg) Flavoring, and Niccotine.
Propylene Glycol is one of the best carriers of flavor. It is the consistency of water. A higher Propylene Glycol content will carry the flavor better, and have a stronger "throat hit" (the burn at the back of the throat). It also produced some vapor as well.
Vegetable Glycerine is also a carrier of flavor, but it doesn't do it as well as Propylene Glycol. It is thicker, and has the consistency of vegetable oil. It does, however, produce a greater cloud of vapor than the PG.
So, if you had a higher VG content, you will produce more clouds... albeit at the loss of some flavor and throat hit. if it had more PG, it would produce more flavor, and have more of a throat hit, but not produce as much vapor. the choice is yours.
With that said, you need to consider the thickness of the juice as a factor as well if you're doing a tank system. The thicker the juice, the slower it will wick. If you don't have a good ammount of liquid to atomize, you won't get as much vapor. Too liquidy, and you can flood the coils and they won't get hot enough to vaporize as well. So, you need to find a tank, and then find the ratio that works best for that tank.
An easy way to get more vapor is not an easy answer. It's more of a trial and error until you get what you like. If you want enough vapor it practically creates a lightning storm, do research on mechanical mods. And yes, I recommend doing TONNES of research before even considering that route, since there are some dangers as well.
Well, I for one do not focus on clouds, I aim for total vape satisfaction, flavor and nic. Clouds are just a by product of the juice I vape and the watts I vape at. My mechs only put out the volts that the battery has in it, though sometimes that comes out to 50 watts, and I do have a couple of regulated mods that will put out like around 8 volts, but only if the atomizer can keep up.
There is something for everyone, whether it's a cig-a-like, ego, regulated, mechanical, clearo, rba & rda's, carto, and it's up to the individual to find their own path. The image is in the eye of the viewer, it's not a community thing it's a personal thing. Nothing wrong with clouds of vape, much more tolerable than clouds of cigars or cigarettes imho.
From my brief experience, clouds come with increased wattage. Going to a mechanical mod, dual coil, increased heat, increased airflow, will get you there. DO NOT do it without educating yourself fully on RDA's, Ohm's Law, battery safety, etc. More vapor does not mean reduced flavor with the right setup. However, you have to compensate and adjust accordingly. If you have increased airflow, you need increased heat along with the vapor to produce the same flavor. It's all trial and error and whatever you find that works for you. If I draw hard vs. light I can adjust my vapor and flavor production to my liking as well.
For the best flavor Protanks and other clearos won't do it. Try a cartomizer. If you didn't know what Vegetable Glycerin was then you are not even close to starting rebuildables. I am not a long timer here but I educated myself thouroughly about the proper way to build and check resistance before I even thought about getting a mechanical. Once I had, I knew what batteries I needed(cannot be overstated) and how low the resistance can be (some people like to push the limit) and what should never be done. The dual coil clearos will help you get better vapor but you will use more juice. Also batteries will not last as long. Once you have done this for a while then branch out and try other things. But for now the biggest thing would be trying a cart as they are supposed to be very good at vapor production and flavor. Clouds are more easily created with increased wattage but it can be done with the right setup. One of the first replies indicated clouds mean the molecules are more spread out and less flavor, go ahead and ignore that bit of misinformation as it is patently false. clouds are denser vapor that may or may not have more flavor. It is all in the coil build. Airflow is another thing that helps with vapor. I found that most toppers have insufficient air flow. They can be drilled larger but you better know what you are doing. You have to use titanium bits and go up in stages so you don't snap a bit off in the hole before you are through. Also Unless you have a drill press you could very well run a drill bit into your palm, I've done it more than once. SUCKS! Hope some of that has helped. Welcome to the forum.
A little off-topic....but what's the fascination with big clouds of vapor? I too vape for my nic fix and flavor and some vapor is fine but I really don't like huge clouds in my face.
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