I want my Nicotine!

[Punkzaine]

Oy oy. I've been looking on this site for the last 2 hours and 30 minutes for my specific question, all with hopes of not making this thread.

I bought Blu cigs (yay) 3 days ago. Its my first E-cig, so I cant say much, other than it does what It says it should do. Anyway, I use to smoke Camel Lights, and for some reason, they were the ONLY cigs that could give me a real strong, 'feel it in my veins' full body buzz (ive tried my fair share). I got the highest (.16mg?) option available from the Blu site, shipped in 3 days over the weekend (somehow? ) and now I'm thinking about returning it for a manual Sideshow. I could care less about the vapor and flavor or all that other stuff. I'm not trying to quit, I smoke for the nicotine, and hate everything else, so its e-cigs or the real thing. I have a feeling that I will be researching for quite a bit more today, but if someone would answer I could be on my way. Back to my questions (mind you, I have Blu):

1. Camel lights have .07mg per cig, carts have .16?. I could be vaping wrong. Ive read the main forums on how to vape, apparently that's not the issue. Any ideas on why I am not feeling any nicotine, if not a little?

2. I'm about to Youtube it, BUT, How do you manually refill a cart? and with what? is it all for flavor? or is their nicotine involved? (if its flavour, dont bother. lol)

3. point me in the right direction if other threads are out there that I am missing pertaining to Nicotine in an e-cig (like a chart or something...yeah...a chart would be epic)

4. How was your day? (curve ball!!)

Thanks in advance, for useful info. I'll check back every so often, but until then, back to my research.

Thanks again.

 

[Rosa]

ok, the good news is that 16 is considered a relatively medium nicotine level. I couldn't do it without at LEAST 24mg, that's for sure.

the bad news is that many people don't get the buzz from e-cigs that they get from tobacco cigarettes even if they vape 36mg. a lot of the buzz comes from the carbon monoxide in the smokes.

some people say they get a buzz on, not often though.

 

[Rosa]

oh, btw: every body will react different to vaping, so a chart won't help you. and here: YouTube - Mooby's Guide for Noobies: How to Refill Carts

 

[Rosa]

oh, yeah... my day was uneventful, how about you?

 

[suddenly]

Why does that cart look like a bent sword???

Sorry, I think, maybe not.

Welcome Punkzaine
How much did you usually smoke per day? That would help determine how high of a nic level you should be at to feel relief from withdrawl and also satisfy your current needs

 

[quakereject]

Refilling your cartridge consists of taking a dropper bottle with nicotine liquid in desired strength and flavor and dripping drops in until the material inside looks like a slushie, cap and vape.

16mg strength wasn't enough for me at first, 24 is a good median, and 36 is pretty rugged. I haven't gotten a buzz off nicotine in awhile.. I used to smoke Davidoff Magnums for that specific reason. They'd make my friends sick so I never had to give them cigs, another good reason. Anyways.. like I said, I needed 24 to really get the right balance before I could forget about cigs.

As far as absorption, 16mg is supposedly what most companies bill as "the same nicotine as a normal cig" which doesn't account for all the extra crap in there causing the reactions you get when you smoke, so you may need more to kill the craving.

 

[Devilooman]

I started at 18.. not enough... went to 24 still having withdrawals.. I seem to have found my "happy spot" at 30mg. Also, although you don't care about taste, it does matter. I was not happy until I settled on atomic cinnacide and menthol from TV both very strong flavors with nice throat hit.

 

[Moonflame]

You definitely should try a liquid with a little more nicotine and probably one with a higher flavor level too. I've found that I get more kick from a flavor that really knocks your socks off than some of the more mellow flavors, which I do like for those times when I'm just relaxing. Check out the Suppliers list for folks to order liquid from. I've used about 5 different suppliers for flavors and have been happy with the srvice from all of them. You can read the reviews of flavors and suppliers there too. I'm not familiar with the Blu, but if it's a 3 piece unit (battery, atomizer and cart) then all you have to do to add liquid is pull off the cart and drip liquid on the stuffing that holds the liquid that they put in there. If you are using a totally new flavor you can usually take the stuffing out and either squeeze out what was there before into a paper towel or rinse it with hot water and squeeze it in a paper towel to dry. There are a number of different things you can also use to replace the stuffing. Look in the Cartridge Mods section of the forum for ideas.

Good luck and Welcome to the forums. If you have questions folks here are wonderful about trying to help.

 

[DC2]

You put as much juice in as the filler material in the cartridge will hold without pooling at the top of the filler material. If it pools at the top, just dab it with a paper towel or tissue.

The problem is, if you are just putting drops right on top of the filler material that comes with the cartridge, it isn't going to sink to the bottom without a little help. You can use the straw modification, or you can use a toothpick or paper clip to push the filler aside a little bit so that it can breath while you are putting in the drops. Some people use a syringe or a needle tipped dropper bottle to get all the way down to the bottom of the cartridge.

And I have found that if you replace the stock filler material with blue foam, you can actually put the drops right in if you tilt the cartridge to the side while doing so, but that is probably a bit more than you want to bite off and chew right now.

 

[sweetniko]

I did some research also and found out that the nicotine is absorbed through your mucus membranes and the very back of your throat...I read this on the nicotrol website. I still smoke reg. cig.'s but that might be due to 18mg but being high enough. Anyway- I get the most satisfaction from the e cig when I hold the vapor in my mouth for a while. I think the nicotine is better absorbed this way, like my research indicated. I also have to vape constantly and I only smoke light cig . I probably need higher than 18 mg. I also read that not all the nicotine gets absorbed, hence you need a higher amount. The nicotrol website said to use their inhaler for 20 minutes at a time ( I think). This is also different from smoking. Probably a stonewall would help also. That's my next plan. So try holding the vapor in your mouth longer and a higher strength and maybe supplement with a stonewall or snus.

 

[Punkzaine]

Wow ...that is the most response ive ever gotten in a few hours on any forum I've been on previously. Thanks for all that info. I appreciate it immensely. Yay knowledge.

To Rosa: same here, work sux, yadda yadda

To Suddenlyno: I'm a light smoker. some would say it was a waste of my time, but my mind is over active. I use to smoke at least 4 times a day, never over 8, but at the most, 10 a day if im drinking. maybe i just need anti-reality..err anti-depressant pills.

 

[camel522]

One of the reasons you don't get the same buzz is because cigarette companies put chemicals into the tobacco that speed up the delivery of nicotine to the brain. Helps get people addicted, and I have to say, it certainly works! I was a camel smoker as well. After becoming fully addicted at about a pack a day, I noticed the ONLY time I EVER got a buzz from a cigarette is if I slept for a really long time, like 16 hours, and then got up and immediately had a cig. Even with regular cigarettes, the buzz will probably gradually go away as your tolerance increases over time.

As for me, I vape 36mg

 

[SeaVert]

I started at 18.. not enough... went to 24 still having withdrawals.. I seem to have found my "happy spot" at 30mg. Also, although you don't care about taste, it does matter. I was not happy until I settled on atomic cinnacide and menthol from TV both very strong flavors with nice throat hit.

Sooooo glad I came across this just now....am in the throes of withdrawals, having kicked analogs a mere 24 hours ago. I'm using 24 and thinking that either A) I am not vaping enough or B) I should go stronger....I think I'll try the 30 and see if that takes care of my extreme case of crankypants.

Thanks....

 

[v1John]

Sooooo glad I came across this just now....am in the throes of withdrawals, having kicked analogs a mere 24 hours ago. I'm using 24 and thinking that either A) I am not vaping enough or B) I should go stronger....I think I'll try the 30 and see if that takes care of my extreme case of crankypants.

Thanks....

Imo, not much difference from 24 to 30 (I use 36 and 24 -- and will be for the first 2 months or so), but hang in there, I hope the monoxide analogs are out of the question.

 

[Phil River]

Now, about nicotine and stuff... There's something odd about the morning e-cig compared to analogs.

With analogs, I rushed for the first one just minutes after waking up.

Whereas the e-cig, I can wait hours for the first morning puff, no urge at all.

And BTW, as for coffee, It's almost the same thing as analogs, I drink coffee at least 30 minutes after waking up.

Maybe the nicotine delivery on e-cigs isn't effective at all?

 

[Rosa]

Sooooo glad I came across this just now....am in the throes of withdrawals, having kicked analogs a mere 24 hours ago. I'm using 24 and thinking that either A) I am not vaping enough or B) I should go stronger....I think I'll try the 30 and see if that takes care of my extreme case of crankypants.

Thanks....

speaking of crankypants... I wasn't aware (until I started investigating e-cigs) that tobacco cigarettes contain MAOIs. So if you're trying to stop smoking, you are also trying to quit your anti-depressants. hmmm.....

 

[msqun]

speaking of crankypants... I wasn't aware (until I started investigating e-cigs) that tobacco cigarettes contain MAOIs. So if you're trying to stop smoking, you are also trying to quit your anti-depressants. hmmm.....

Really? I've never heard of such. Wow!!! that's really all I can say..What jerks...No wonder all us smokers/exsmokers were always considered more fun and better tippers...LOL we were all on our happy pills...dang...I feel pretty cheated I wasn't "happier", didn't really get my moneys worth I guess...HA (as if it was even possible with analogs)

 

[Rosa]

yeah, too bad they don't list the ingredients on the pack. You'd be SHOCKED at what's in there.... really (like arsenic, formaldehyde, etc...etc...etc!). I don't think it would have made me quit - if that commercial with the woman smoking through the hole in her throat couldn't make me quit I'm pretty sure nothing could. Until e-cigs, that is.

ps: here's the study results: http://www.biopsychiatry.com/maoi-smoke.htm

 

[v1John]

It was posted here in this link at the V4L subforum, 'what's in a cigarette', it's amazing:

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/vapor4life/83452-whats-cigarette.html#post1239728

 

[msqun]

yeah, too bad they don't list the ingredients on the pack. You'd be SHOCKED at what's in there.... really (like arsenic, formaldehyde, etc...etc...etc!). I don't think it would have made me quit - if that commercial with the woman smoking through the hole in her throat couldn't make me quit I'm pretty sure nothing could. Until e-cigs, that is.

Yep, agreed. I pretty much never planned on quitting. Until I started vaping in Feb. (still didn't have plans to quit, silly me) NOW, I haven't had an analog since. YAY!! I KNOW about MANY of the YUCKY things in cigs I was just not aware of the MAOI...nothing really surprises me with those wizards.