The B&M near me is horrendous. It's so dark in there you can't even see what you're doing, thank got black lights of all things. Can't see nothing.So I switched to a better store. Well, I used that store for my liquid. But my wife prefers online e liquid. She has a hard time because she loves pina colada but none of the Pina Coladas taste like a pina colada. I buy hers online pineapple straight and coconut Straight, and she mixes it to her liking. We buy all of our coils and other Hardware from the local BM. So I would say I use both online and brick-and-mortar.
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I find most shops know next to nothing about quitting smoking and seem to mainly push hobby vaping.
then there's those who know very little about vaping and are only trying to make a quick buck
online is where you will best learn about vaping and also where you will find the best vape gear.
then there's those who know very little about vaping and are only trying to make a quick buck
online is where you will best learn about vaping and also where you will find the best vape gear.
As a beginner I spent a lot of money ordering different tobacco flavored juices on line. I was sure tobacco was what I wanted. I hated them all and always went back to smoking, felt discouraged.
Then I went to a vape store and tried different liquids, I came out with strong menthols and ice flavors. For me starting at vape store would have saved money and got me vaping years sooner. Of course their were none around "in the good old days".
I like the idea of this post, trying to help new users.
Maybe a post about all the things I have done wrong trying to replace smoking with vaping.
Then I went to a vape store and tried different liquids, I came out with strong menthols and ice flavors. For me starting at vape store would have saved money and got me vaping years sooner. Of course their were none around "in the good old days".
I like the idea of this post, trying to help new users.
Maybe a post about all the things I have done wrong trying to replace smoking with vaping.
I find most shops know next to nothing about quitting smoking and seem to mainly push hobby vaping.
What kind of smoke shop would have black lights? it don't make sense. They won't stay in business long nobody ever goes into that one.
then there's those who know very little about vaping and are only trying to make a quick buck
online is where you will best learn about vaping and also where you will find the best vape gear.
It is true that apart from AIO kits or cartridge mods, most of the vape gear I see these days in stores is more aimed at DL vaping. Oh, I could get all the "pen style" mods I wanted, but I do.not.want.
I'm not sure there is a wrong way to approach vaping honestly, though, if you really want to quit. Whatever works (as long as if you have the understanding that something isn't working, you realize you can find out more online.) For the cost of a bad experience and possibly some new (online purchased) gear, most determined vapers can get going fairly rapidly.
I did like having a Freedom Smoke USA near me, they don't limit nic content at all hardly, I mean I'm sure they have an upper limit, but I believe it is something reasonable like 24 or 36. They do also carry some "pen style" vapes and a lot of Kangertech equipment, which I don't like although for sure, some of it is geared MORE toward MTL.... etc.
With the right attitude, a new vaper can hopefully figure out to iron out any problems. I was in the gas station yesterday, though, and watched someone buy cigalike cartos. It was kind of interesting because it exactly "mimicked" the behavior of cigarette purchasing, in the sense of "give me X, in this color." There are certain vapers who want to vape just like they smoked, "No forethought, no idea that there might be something better out there," just "I buy my cigs at the gas station, this is now where I buy my Vuse, or whatever."
So, I think that there is a place for cigalikes, and that place is for the person who just wants to substitute something "safer" than cigarettes (supposedly) and continues to repeatedly buy cartridges like they do packs of cigarettes. I doubt if I'd talked to that lady she would have been super happy about all the "vape" information I might offer her, so I just watched, like the good sociologist I am. Although there is "far better" out there, it was clear the clerk knew her, she knew the clerk, and she was happy. Whatever works, works.
Anna
I'm not sure there is a wrong way to approach vaping honestly, though, if you really want to quit. Whatever works (as long as if you have the understanding that something isn't working, you realize you can find out more online.) For the cost of a bad experience and possibly some new (online purchased) gear, most determined vapers can get going fairly rapidly.
I did like having a Freedom Smoke USA near me, they don't limit nic content at all hardly, I mean I'm sure they have an upper limit, but I believe it is something reasonable like 24 or 36. They do also carry some "pen style" vapes and a lot of Kangertech equipment, which I don't like although for sure, some of it is geared MORE toward MTL.... etc.
With the right attitude, a new vaper can hopefully figure out to iron out any problems. I was in the gas station yesterday, though, and watched someone buy cigalike cartos. It was kind of interesting because it exactly "mimicked" the behavior of cigarette purchasing, in the sense of "give me X, in this color." There are certain vapers who want to vape just like they smoked, "No forethought, no idea that there might be something better out there," just "I buy my cigs at the gas station, this is now where I buy my Vuse, or whatever."
So, I think that there is a place for cigalikes, and that place is for the person who just wants to substitute something "safer" than cigarettes (supposedly) and continues to repeatedly buy cartridges like they do packs of cigarettes. I doubt if I'd talked to that lady she would have been super happy about all the "vape" information I might offer her, so I just watched, like the good sociologist I am. Although there is "far better" out there, it was clear the clerk knew her, she knew the clerk, and she was happy. Whatever works, works.
Anna
I went to a vape shop as my very first time into vaping. They set me up with a Smok stick X8 and 30ml of ejuice for $50 yes that is overpriced. I went in a few time more for coils. X-baby 3 coils come in a pack I was being charged $20 that is way too much imo that rarely last a week. I spent $55 for 4 coil packs online. Another vape shop I was spending $26 for same namebrand ejuice I paid $15 for exact same juice online.
I use B M out of convenience. I could get coils in like 5 minutes so it's worth the money I guess.
I recall one popular S Fl vape store whose owner decided to discourage staff so as to limit vaping in the store. The once crowded minor venue soon was empty and is now defunct.
You have to be a skier to sell skis.
Good luck.
You have to be a skier to sell skis.
Good luck.
Vape shop by my house I went in and the staff was twisting wire with a drill and their was a guy sitting in a chair (I think a customer or owner) vaping on a RDA I was kind of impressed he had the whole place fogged up.I recall one popular S Fl vape store whose owner decided to discourage staff so as to limit vaping in the store. The once crowded minor venue soon was empty and is now defunct.
You have to be a skier to sell skis.
Good luck.
It's handy to have a good vape shop nearby for emergencies. Coils (especially when you get a sense of their life) aren't emergencies if you keep a reasonable stock on hand. If the convenience is worth it then by all means. I try to strategically support vape shops that aren't AWFUL for new vapers when I can, but online is usually so much cheaper.
Anna
Anna
First time I ordered juice on-line was bobas Bounty. Phil busardo made me do it. It sucked. Then I learned what I ordered was actually cloned bobas. Both companies had 'Alien' in the name. So, I dug my heels in and licked my wounds. Tracked down the real McCoy and ordered it. It sucked too.
Not long after, I bought RYD2 by VaporHut at a local b&m. It tasted like soft pretzels. I started ordering straight from the source after that. Eventually, I figured out how to make it. I haven't bought juice in 5 years... except for the time I went out of town on business and forgot to bring juice.
Anyway, I don't agree with all your points but it's a great list for the folks considering vaping.
Not long after, I bought RYD2 by VaporHut at a local b&m. It tasted like soft pretzels. I started ordering straight from the source after that. Eventually, I figured out how to make it. I haven't bought juice in 5 years... except for the time I went out of town on business and forgot to bring juice.
Anyway, I don't agree with all your points but it's a great list for the folks considering vaping.
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Walkin into a vape store that ain't would be like takin a chair at a barber shop that didn't smell like fresh cut hair, talcum and that cheap cologne. You wouldn't. Unless you were there for some therapy with the barber cause he's a better listener than the bartender.
Good luck.
More or less agree, except for:
3. As a squonker I'm hard pressed to find what I'm looking for at a B&M, and I'm less willing to pay the markup. I support my B&M when it makes sense, but I'm not going to throw money at something just for that. I've built good relationships with some online stores that net discounts. As well I find guys/gals selling custom stuff you'd never find in a B&M.
7. I go through 12-24 (30ish) ml a day. I'm good.
And I started at 50watts.
But..yeah.
3. As a squonker I'm hard pressed to find what I'm looking for at a B&M, and I'm less willing to pay the markup. I support my B&M when it makes sense, but I'm not going to throw money at something just for that. I've built good relationships with some online stores that net discounts. As well I find guys/gals selling custom stuff you'd never find in a B&M.
7. I go through 12-24 (30ish) ml a day. I'm good.
And I started at 50watts.
But..yeah.
I was in my local vape shop a few weeks ago and they do carry stuff that's nice, but the prices are ridiculous compared to shopping online.
They had the Tesla Wye in stock but were charging 75.00. The Tesla 120 nano they wanted 80.00 for. And one after the other on down the line that's what their prices are like. Even wire is more expensive there.
If I had the money I'm sure I would shop there just to support local business, but I just don't have that kind of money atm to pay nearly double at times...
Great for emergencies or perhaps just to see a mod in person - that Tesla Wye is much prettier in person I think than it is in pictures. .. but that's really it.
Some people just don't care though and are willing and happy to pay the markup... my son is one.
But, as with all things it's subjective... what's good for one person isn't good for another.
I've never bought ejuice anywhere but online since I started vaping, never had a problem. My husband on the other hand was so difficult that taking him to a juice bar was the only way to go to get settled on some juice for him..
In the end, what works for the individual is just what works for them.
They had the Tesla Wye in stock but were charging 75.00. The Tesla 120 nano they wanted 80.00 for. And one after the other on down the line that's what their prices are like. Even wire is more expensive there.
If I had the money I'm sure I would shop there just to support local business, but I just don't have that kind of money atm to pay nearly double at times...
Great for emergencies or perhaps just to see a mod in person - that Tesla Wye is much prettier in person I think than it is in pictures. .. but that's really it.
Some people just don't care though and are willing and happy to pay the markup... my son is one.
But, as with all things it's subjective... what's good for one person isn't good for another.
I've never bought ejuice anywhere but online since I started vaping, never had a problem. My husband on the other hand was so difficult that taking him to a juice bar was the only way to go to get settled on some juice for him..
In the end, what works for the individual is just what works for them.
I've been vaping for 4 1/2 years and still haven't been to a vape store.
I wanted to start this thread in hopes that others would throw in there "mistakes", and you guys have come through like champs.
I may of not said it right. Buying juice from the internet is really ok, but its not something you wanna start doing right away. You need to find flavors that work best for you. Have the flavors always on hand, and if you do decide to buy from the internet, you will always have your favorite's as back up in case what you did get from the internet is not to your liking.
Myself, I really try to support the brick stores, Yea, I may pay a bit more, but at the same time, I am helping keep the store open, and people working.
After lots of research, and learning from others, vaping full time is not something I want. My goal, vape my way down to 3 mg, then walk away from it, while keeping juice, and my mod close around in case I slip.
Now I am not sure about this fact, no clue, but the double battery mods, and the people that use them, sure seems to me like they burn through TONS of juice. My guess, the bigger, badder mods and just eating the juice.
I have the single battery, and a 4 ml tank, and I go through a tank, to tank and a half a day?
I may of not said it right. Buying juice from the internet is really ok, but its not something you wanna start doing right away. You need to find flavors that work best for you. Have the flavors always on hand, and if you do decide to buy from the internet, you will always have your favorite's as back up in case what you did get from the internet is not to your liking.
Myself, I really try to support the brick stores, Yea, I may pay a bit more, but at the same time, I am helping keep the store open, and people working.
After lots of research, and learning from others, vaping full time is not something I want. My goal, vape my way down to 3 mg, then walk away from it, while keeping juice, and my mod close around in case I slip.
Now I am not sure about this fact, no clue, but the double battery mods, and the people that use them, sure seems to me like they burn through TONS of juice. My guess, the bigger, badder mods and just eating the juice.
I have the single battery, and a 4 ml tank, and I go through a tank, to tank and a half a day?
That is pretty good. I go through 60-100ml a week. Just made a purchase of 2 ejuice bundles totaling 720ml. Night Cap and Holy Cannoli. Never tried either of these brands
Coils determine how much juice you use more than any other component. You can tootle on a single, dual, or internal battery mod and you will consume the same amount of juice. I vape around the 22-48w and don't need a dual 18650 mod but it is what I prefer. I like the heft and enjoy the longer run time.
Wow! Prices are amazingly different here 120mls is $15. and 500mls is $50. at the two local shops we buy from.
I vape at 13 watts, around 5ml a day, am using a two battery mod and my batteries last 4 days.
I like the battery life really... not that I need it but I can be a bit lazy and have to worry about it less often - it's nice...
A two battery mod can be anything anyone wants it to be.
So some people vape at a little higher watts, yes... but you certainly don't have to.
Vaping is personal. It's what you personally enjoy, what your personal goals are, and what you personally like.
Just because what you enjoy, or because your goals or tastes are different than someone else is no reason to be critical of another vaper.
The goal is to not smoke cigarettes and for everyone who achieves that it's a major win and something to be celebrated by all of us.
What others personal tastes are is what their personal taste is... what yours are is yours. You want to save money in some areas to spend it in others that's great... you do that. For those who don't feel the need, good on them too.
Teasing is different than being judgemental. .. for real.
For instance, my son vapes anywhere from 30-50ml a day.. his life, his money... what I am is thrilled to death he's no longer smoking three packs of Marlboro reds a day and I'll do whatever it takes to support him in that.
I do tease him some and vice versa but it's love... not judgment. The point anyone needs to know, is that we are all individuals, with our own individual tastes and personalities.
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