If You Don't Know Anything About Vaping, Don't Open a Vape Shop

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And actually, you might've been able to earn yourself some free items by helping them out. I was in a "similar" situation, and by similar I mean the store owners had just began to sell vape stuff and did not know anything past the blu ecigs. I educated them to the best of my abilities on popular items, how to rebuild, etc. I even donated 2 hours of my time to perform magic for them at their "Grand re-opening". I wasn't busy and I could see how happy they were to learn something they are diving into and spending their savings basically to start up. I ended up with tons of free stuff as payment. Deep down, I was just happy to help out fellow vapers.
 

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assuming anything always runs the risk of causing trouble

if you goal was to find out if they carried a product, inquire about the price of said product, and potentially purchase that product from that store, I don't think you went about it in the best way

As I explained previously, the store's website showed the item in stock, and when I asked for it I used the same name they did in their online product description (joyetech Type A). If the website had referred to the item as an "eGo-C atomizer," then that's what I would've asked for. I did everything in my power to make this as easy as possible for them.

they were clearly at a different level in the vaping world which wasn't to your satisfaction, but again, would it be legitimate for someone who possessed more knowledge than yourself to conduct themselves in the same fashion?

If I was running a vape shop and possessed my current level of vaping knowledge (I am not an expert or anything resembling an expert), then yes, it would be perfectly appropriate for a customer to express frustration about me not knowing my rear end from a hole in the ground. If I'm placing myself in a position where such things are likely to happen, then I need to have sufficiently thick skin to deal with it. I wouldn't be expecting patience and courtesy from anyone, because I voluntarily put myself in the position of being a professional vendor of vaping supplies, and I did so without first amassing a sufficient level of knowledge regarding the industry in which I'd chosen to make my living.

there exists stores that someone, like yourself, coming to buy replacement heads for an atomizer would look down on. they might see your "level" much lower than their own, sort of like how you looked down on them for using a Blu ecig.

I'm not bothered in the slightest if someone wants to look down on me for the type of vaping equipment I use. Why would I be? I'm a grown man, not a Sensitive Sally.
 

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So I was being rude when I patiently waited for 15 minutes to be helped, during which time neither proprietor saw fit to say "Sorry, we'll be with you as soon as we can" or even to acknowledge my existence in any way?

I didn't say you were rude while you waited. I said you were rude when you got up to the counter.
 

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It's extremely rare to walk into any store and have the person behind the counter be an expert

that being said, I don't think any of the mentioned behaviors would be considered appropriate, especially for an adult, but obviously I understand the frustration.

perhaps igniting the knowledge-candle would have led to a desire to possess more knowledge and then one day the owner would be teaching you proper wicking techniques for a kayfun setup with a vertical micro-coil with a 5/64ths ID @ 7 wraps
 

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Poor Nate.......
 

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perhaps igniting the knowledge-candle would have led to a desire to possess more knowledge and then one day the owner would be teaching you proper wicking techniques for a kayfun setup with a vertical micro-coil with a 5/64ths ID @ 7 wraps

Im betting the embarrassment the shop owners faced probably will lead to the same outcome.

No one is saying they need to be experts, but they do need to be professionals. That means if your website or product catalog calls an atomizer a "type a", then you better know what a "type a" is when someone asks for it.

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Im betting the embarrassment the shop owners faced probably will lead to the same outcome.

No one is saying they need to be experts, but they do need to be professionals. That means if your website or product catalog calls an atomizer a "type a", then you better know what a "type a" is when someone asks for it.

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provided the person listing the products on the website and gave them a description is the same person in the store

because I'd have no idea what the heck a type A is

unless it's a personality type
 

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perhaps igniting the knowledge-candle would have led to a desire to possess more knowledge and then one day the owner would be teaching you proper wicking techniques for a kayfun setup with a vertical micro-coil with a 5/64ths ID @ 7 wraps

You're assuming I aspire to be a technically advanced vaping enthusiast, which I do not. I'm perfectly happy as a member of the eGo bourgeoisie.
 

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You're assuming I aspire to be a technically advanced vaping enthusiast, which I do not. I'm perfectly happy as a member of the eGo bourgeoisie.

FTR, if you're in it for the long-haul rebuilding is better and cheaper.

A Kayfun will last you forever and the coils are basically free.. maybe $0.04 per coil once you know how to do it.
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Some clearo that will break in a month or three and whose coils cost $2-$5.

As for what you chose to power it, that's your choice, but a $180 Provari or a $150 mech or a $30 mech will last you years.

just sayin.

A little 350 mech or even a 650 mech is no big thing to carry around.
 

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FTR, if you're in it for the long-haul rebuilding is better and cheaper.

A Kayfun will last you forever and the coils are basically free.. maybe $0.04 per coil once you know how to do it.
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Some clearo that will break in a month or three and whose coils cost $2-$5.

As for what you chose to power it, that's your choice, but a $180 Provari or a $150 mech or a $30 mech will last you years.

just sayin.

A little 350 mech or even a 650 mech is no big thing to carry around.

I wasn't a heavy smoker and I'm not a heavy vaper. I simply have no need for anything fancier or more complex than what I already have. My monthly vaping needs consist of a couple atomizers and a couple bottles of liquid, for a total cost of 25-30 bucks. If other people want to be enthusiasts and aficionados, more power to them. I don't.
 

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I'm a relative newbie striving not to be, but I personally think mechs are for the birds; I like to adjust the power too often for even a Kick to be a viable option (and yes I said Power, not voltage, and I haven't won the lottery, so I don't need to hear another word about the blessed P'vari) and I'm really not crazy about the idea of there being no "safety" circuitry between me and a very powerful battery. My face is homely, but I like it where it is, not splattered all over the wall.

But, I just started about 3 months ago, and even *I* know what a type-A atomizer is -- that's the kind I used in my starter eRolls! I agree with Nate, a) those people need to learn a lot more about this business before trying to make it their business, and b) anyone who thinks a "Blu" is a "real" e-cig isn't a "real" vaper! Those things, in a word, SUCK. I knew that much before I ever bought the eRoll -- they're WHY I bought an eRoll! I was a cigarette smoker, not a pipe smoker, and the taste of pipe tobacco is NOT what I was looking for.

But it sure was a funny post (the OP). :D

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I'm not sure where the disconnect is in this thread, but my experience tells me that someone owning and directly running a niche business whilst lacking intimate knowledge of the product/niche is not a good thing.


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So would you describe the vape business as a niche business?

I would describe it as a booming business currently.

There are alot more smokers out there converting to vaping than there are vapers looking for hard to find items.
 

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I'm a relative newbie striving not to be, but I personally think mechs are for the birds; I like to adjust the power too often for even a Kick to be a viable option (and yes I said Power, not voltage, and I haven't won the lottery, so I don't need to hear another word about the blessed P'vari) and I'm really not crazy about the idea of there being no "safety" circuitry between me and a very powerful battery. My face is homely, but I like it where it is, not splattered all over the wall.

But, I just started about 3 months ago, and even *I* know what a type-A atomizer is -- that's the kind I used in my starter eRolls! I agree with Nate, a) those people need to learn a lot more about this business before trying to make it their business, and b) anyone who thinks a "Blu" is a "real" e-cig isn't a "real" vaper! Those things, in a word, SUCK. I knew that much before I ever bought the eRoll -- they're WHY I bought an eRoll! I was a cigarette smoker, not a pipe smoker, and the taste of pipe tobacco is NOT what I was looking for.

But it sure was a funny post (the OP). :D

Andria

That's the beauty of our current vaping world. There's so many choices that just about anyone can find what works for them. Mechs serve a purpose that not everyone wants to get involved in; vv/vw mods fit another group who likes to make some adjustments, but enjoy the safety and don't want to do mess with "extreme" vaping; ego erolls and other fixed voltage devices are perfect for those who just want something that is easy and works.

I think the vast variety of options is part of what makes vaping such a successful smoking cessation tool.

Given this, it is crucial that vape shop operators know the ins and outs so they can find individual users a proper fit.

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I came back to this thread and was shocked that it hadn't been shut down yet. Not only that. It had doubled in size! Amazing!

I don't think the OP was rude at all. And, apparently the store owners didn't think so either. It sounds like it all happened in a polite, civil way. OP can't help being a little frustrated.

So far as having a website say there are 200 in stock, it sounds like this couple is either: managing a store for a company that has multiple stores or have bought a franchise. There's a store here in San Antonio that doesn't carry all the items on their website. Their Dallas store is the one that does the website and that carries everything that's on the website.

Tacos anyone?
 
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