If you lost your vaping ability would you go back to smokes?

[Switched]

When I started smoking 40+ years ago, it was pleasurable and cigarettes actually tasted like tobacco. I am not sure what cigarettes taste like today, but IMO they definitely do not taste like tobacco.

I did not choose vaping as an alternate lifestyle, but as a means to quit smoking. Those that do want to quit, I believe are better equiped with vaping as a cessation device than from all other methods we have come to know.

To date I have been smoke free for 8 months and have reduced both my nicotine intake and frequency as others have stated. Although, I have not set a target date as such, I have given myself 2 years to wean off nicotine, which is only mildly addictive by itself.

The hand to mouth habit we have might indeed be a physical/psychological need, but one that I do not at this time feel is a requirement to exercise. If I am otherwise occupied, I see myself go for extended periods without thinking of vaping, something that was not common place as a smoker.

No I believe it was the other additives in cigarettes that kept us hooked. Once free of these other additives, I firmly believe that we can remain smoke free. That being said, once a smoker always a smoker. A good friend of mine hasn't smoked in 25 years, and he still gets the occasional psychological trigger. As he stated these triggers are very mild in comparison with yesteryear, and of insignificant duration.

So for the folks that truly want to remain smoke free, I believe they can.

 

[Nuck]

I've had to stop vaping a few times. It wasn't that hard. There's NO chance I will ever smoke again.

 

[Fitdiculous]

with my first kid on the way I don't think I'll go back... hard to say, but that's extra motiviation (and what got me to start vaping in the first place) to not go back. I must admit I've been pretty tempted as of late a few times, but I've been good and it'll be 2+ months now analog free

 

[hotone]

I just recently passed 6 months since my last smoke. I have no cravings for cigarettes and don't like the smell anymore. It took me about 3 months to pass the point where I could go extended periods without vaping or thinking about vaping when I was not. I would like to think that I would never smoke again even if I could not vape. However, I made it 2 years in the past and started smoking again.

 

[Switched]

I just recently passed 6 months since my last smoke. I have no cravings for cigarettes and don't like the smell anymore. It took me about 3 months to pass the point where I could go extended periods without vaping or thinking about vaping when I was not. I would like to think that I would never smoke again even if I could not vape. However, I made it 2 years in the past and started smoking again.

WTG hot one! Does 10-12 weeks ring any bells?

However, many have gone as much as five years and taken it up again, but that is something I do not wish to even contemplate. VG and tobacco flavours should satisfy the demons once nic free I would think. Both of these will remain readily available.

 

[Jim211]

I would buy some snuff and soak it in vg to vape if worse came to worse. Feel so much better after quitting that I will not go back to smoking ever no matter what.

 

[jude8753]

Haven't smoked in 6 months, but I would never say never because I don't know. I know I don't want to so I would simply try with vg and diy flavors because I have to have vapor and the hand to mouth. I do think it would be a lot easier since it's only nic and not all the other crap.

 

[viktor]

Although, I have not set a target date as such, I have given myself 2 years to wean off nicotine, which is only mildly addictive by itself.

Why do you need 2 years to wean off nicotine if it's mildly addictive?

There are two extreme types on this forum: one believes that nicotine is a natural cure, another believes it's mildly addictive. I envy your delusions but the fact is that God created tobacco (and other diseases) to regulate human population on this planet and nicotine is one of the most addictive substances He came up with.

Cheers,
Viktor

 

[Switched]

Why do you need 2 years to wean off nicotine if it's mildly addictive?

There are two extreme types on this forum: one believes that nicotine is a natural cure, another believes it's mildly addictive. I envy your delusions but the fact is that God created tobacco (and other diseases) to regulate human population on this planet and nicotine is one of the most addictive substances He came up with.

Cheers,
Viktor

Now who's delusional.

 

[viktor]

Now who's delusional.

What's your point? Nicotine is mildly addictive?

 

[DemonCleaner]

I did not intend to quit smoking when i started vaping...It just kind of happened...
I fear i'd be done the first time i had a beer.

 

[LowThudd]

Where there is a will there is a way. I suppose that nicotine juice and delivery devices are what would be banned. W/ all the head shops near me, I just don't see PVs disappearing. The nic might be difficult, but not impossible. Granted the unspeakable "Herbal Remedies" are nearly legal here in CA, but EFFF NOOO! I won't quit vaping for anything! I like it better than I ever liked cigarettes, and I feel sooo much better not hacking up nasty flem every morning.

 

[NCC]

Nope. No can do.

 

[hairball]

No, I've cut down my nic content to 6mg from 36mg. I wouldn't go back to smoking. I would probably go to eating instead and gain weight...LOL. But all laughing aside, NO.

 

[dspin]

Yessssssss

 

[Mark Linehan]

Unfortunately I think I would. ..but since I know how to make a mod, I know how to make juice from tobacco or snus (if no other option) and I am going to make an atty sooner or later.. Well, it will take a lot to stop me from vaping. Unfortunately, I will be a lifelong slave to nicotine so I would most likely smoke again. I pray I never have to though.

 

[rachelcoffe]

I think it's important to clarify something in this thread.

At the most, I would think we might lose the freedom to buy pg or vg with nicotine in it.

I thought about that, Sponge Bobiwan. But it's never gonna happen. The last thing the government wants is for knowledge of vaping to become widespread amongst the Canadian population. Right now, tons of people - smoking people - don't even know that vaping exists. If knowledge of vaping became widespread, smokers would quit in droves, and before you knew it vaping would be the hottest thing since Tim Hortons. We'd become a beacon to the world in favour of vaping.

Everyone on every side, throughout the public, would instinctively understand the hypocrisy & sheer evil of allowing nicotine to be sold in a proven-deadly means (tobacco cigarettes) in every corner store across the land...while disallowing the same nicotine to be sold in a safe means (such as in PG). So trying to outlaw the safe one would only draw serious attention to the issue.

Nicotine & caffeine have a lot in common; they're both addictive, they're both mild stimulants consumed for pleasure, and they're both essentially harmless in the average person's typical level of consumption. Next time someone says "nicotine is a vasoconstrictor!" tell them "so is caffeine - but you don't stop drinking coffe." They're both quite mild in that regard.

The pro-tobacco / pro-crappy NRT people aren't interested in attacking vaping on a nicotine safety issue. Primarily because that would doom them too - we're talking about the same nicotine as in NRT or tobacco. What would they say - "um, our nicotine is OK, buuut...we don't like vapers...hmmm..." - ???

The basis for a ban just doesn't exist, because a ban on nicotine in PG would not have any more scientific validity than a ban on caffeine in coffe...and to ban nicotine in PG would necessitate its ban in NRT and tobacco.

It's because the nicotine in your e-juice is as harmless as the caffeine in your coffe, and because people are already profiting from nicotine (in deadly or sucky means) that no one tries (not seriously, anyway) to argue that point. Rather (when pressed) they talk about "market authorization," which is a stall, nothing more. Consider:

- PG - both as an edible liquid and as a vapour intended for inhalation - has market authorization.

- Flavouring has market authorization.

- Nicotine has market authorization.

But in the same bottle - "ohhhhhh we can't have that!" It's a stalling tactic, and a remarkably weak one. You can inhale nicotine, and you can inhale PG vapour...but not together? Baloney.

Both e-juice and tobacco cigarettes contain comparable amounts of nicotine. The only difference is that vaping e-juice is clean & good for you, while smoking tobacco cigarettes is deadly to you.

An anti-nicotine argument just wouldn't hold water, and our resultant win is precisely what those opposed to vaping want to avoid. It would expose the hollow nature of the case against vaping. The only reason anyone is arguing against vaping is because vaping presents the first real threat to the future of tobacco cigarette smoking in human history. Vaping offers all the fun of smoking, without smoking - and without any of the danger. If anything, it's beneficial.

So the pro-tobacco & pro-crappy NRT people (when pressed to discuss the issue) can hem & haw & wring their hands & talk about "market authorization" - but in the end, they know they can't win. That the science is indisputable. That their best hope is to keep the issue low-profile...to prevent widespread public knowledge of vaping, and prevent the conspicuous availability of e-cigs & e-juice, for as long as they can...with silence, red tape, unfounded insinuations when pressed, and money.

Which is why, practically speaking, they generally leave us alone. They are far less concerned with giving individual vapers grief (a move that could backfire) than they are with maintaining their exclusive conspicuousness in the store-shelves & minds of Canadians.

So yeah - take heart, fellow vapers. Vaping is here to stay, and so is your optional nicotine.

EDIT: P.S. I realize this thread was based on a hypothetical "what if?" question. For the record, I think Canada is one of the best places for vapers. Apart from a brief, weak, official "frown" from Health Canada in March 2009...practically speaking, Canada is content to allow people to vape if they want. With or without nicotine. So yay. God keep our land glorious & free.

 

[FreeFlow]

I'm not exaggerating when I say, that was the best post i've ever read on these forums. Thank you.

I think it's important to clarify something in this thread.



I thought about that, Sponge Bobiwan. But it's never gonna happen. The last thing the government wants is for knowledge of vaping to become widespread amongst the Canadian population. Right now, tons of people - smoking people - don't even know that vaping exists. If knowledge of vaping became widespread, smokers would quit in droves, and before you knew it vaping would be the hottest thing since Tim Hortons. We'd become a beacon to the world in favour of vaping.

Everyone on every side, throughout the public, would instinctively understand the hypocrisy & sheer evil of allowing nicotine to be sold in a proven-deadly means (tobacco cigarettes) in every corner store across the land...while disallowing the same nicotine to be sold in a safe means (such as in PG). So trying to outlaw the safe one would only draw serious attention to the issue.

Nicotine & caffeine have a lot in common; they're both addictive, they're both mild stimulants consumed for pleasure, and they're both essentially harmless in the average person's typical level of consumption. Next time someone says "nicotine is a vasoconstrictor!" tell them "so is caffeine - but you don't stop drinking coffe." They're both quite mild in that regard.

The pro-tobacco / pro-crappy NRT people aren't interested in attacking vaping on a nicotine safety issue. Primarily because that would doom them too - we're talking about the same nicotine as in NRT or tobacco. What would they say - "um, our nicotine is OK, buuut...we don't like vapers...hmmm..." - ???

The basis for a ban just doesn't exist, because a ban on nicotine in PG would not have any more scientific validity than a ban on caffeine in coffe...and to ban nicotine in PG would necessitate its ban in NRT and tobacco.

It's because the nicotine in your e-juice is as harmless as the caffeine in your coffe, and because people are already profiting from nicotine (in deadly or sucky means) that no one tries (not seriously, anyway) to argue that point. Rather (when pressed) they talk about "market authorization," which is a stall, nothing more. Consider:

- PG - both as an edible liquid and as a vapour intended for inhalation - has market authorization.

- Flavouring has market authorization.

- Nicotine has market authorization.

But in the same bottle - "ohhhhhh we can't have that!" It's a stalling tactic, and a remarkably weak one. You can inhale nicotine, and you can inhale PG vapour...but not together? Baloney.

Both e-juice and tobacco cigarettes contain comparable amounts of nicotine. The only difference is that vaping e-juice is clean & good for you, while smoking tobacco cigarettes is deadly to you.

An anti-nicotine argument just wouldn't hold water, and our resultant win is precisely what those opposed to vaping want to avoid. It would expose the hollow nature of the case against vaping. The only reason anyone is arguing against vaping is because vaping presents the first real threat to the future of tobacco cigarette smoking in human history. Vaping offers all the fun of smoking, without smoking - and without any of the danger. If anything, it's beneficial.

So the pro-tobacco & pro-crappy NRT people (when pressed to discuss the issue) can hem & haw & wring their hands & talk about "market authorization" - but in the end, they know they can't win. That the science is indisputable. That their best hope is to keep the issue low-profile...to prevent widespread public knowledge of vaping, and prevent the conspicuous availability of e-cigs & e-juice, for as long as they can...with silence, red tape, unfounded insinuations when pressed, and money.

Which is why, practically speaking, they generally leave us alone. They are far less concerned with giving individual vapers grief (a move that could backfire) than they are with maintaining their exclusive conspicuousness in the store-shelves & minds of Canadians.

So yeah - take heart, fellow vapers. Vaping is here to stay, and so is your optional nicotine.

 

[LowThudd]

I guess what I was trying to say, they can have my PV when they pry it from my cold dead hands(hopefully dead from old age. lol).

 

[Switched]

Just one caveat to Rachel's post.

<<Nicotine has market authorization>>

Not for long. Nicotine is an insecticide amongst other things, and law has been passed (no I'm not going to go look for the thread) to discontnue harvest and production of all nicotine. This is also part of HARM for a nicotine free society by 2020.