iJoy Asolo Question

[jj6404]

Forgive me as am brand new to coil building and brand new to mods with tc and removable batteries so I may sound like a complete toolbox here. I looked at the manual on the ijoy site at the bottom of the page IJOY ASOLO-Shenzhen IJOY Technology Co.，Ltd. - Ijoy e-cigarette/Most electronic cigarette manufacturer innovation It says the coil DIAMETER has to be a certain size. For kanthal the diameter should be .3 mm or smaller and ohms no lower than .5 Is this referring to the gauge of the wire diameter or the build of the coil diameter?

I have had a crown tank for a while and I just ordered the rba and am trying to get myself set up to build my very first coil ever. I am contemplating a coilmaster kit or something along those lines.

So all this stuff is on the way
Asolo 200w
four vtc4's
the crown RBA
nitcore D2 charger

I just need to figure out a coil kit, cotton, and what size wire.

The .3mm refers to the wire. In America, we typically use gauges (26 gauge, 24 gauge, etc.). Can you imagine how small a 0.3mm inner coil diameter would be? Lol.

What type of wire are you planning on ordering?
May I ask what coil heads and how do you vape your Crown right now? (wattage, airflow)
Just so you know, the Crown rba base will make a different vape than the stock coil heads, particularly significantly less airflow (like every rba base for every sub-ohm tank out there)
I'm more worried about your wicking than your coil building as a beginner. I consider myself an experienced builder and I haven't got the Crown rba base working perfectly yet because of the wicking difficulty. You have to wick it perfectly to achieve the perfect balance to both avoid flooding and dry hits. Just be patient with it and watch every video you can.
Make sure you read and watch a lot on the Asolo too... It's an "advanced" device with a learning curve especially considering its "taste control" technology. You should know that even in its "temp control" mode, it still uses its taste control tech. I don't think any beginner should use it as a first time temp control device. You basically have to fire TC-only wires (nickel, titanium, SS [according to some people]) in wattage mode (which should not be done or required to do) a few times before switching to TC mode just to get it to work properly.
I suggest you just get Kanthal and work with that for now. 26 gauge should work well for that rba base.
As for cotton, Japanese organic cotton is all I ever use and probably the most popular cotton used in vaping today. I get Puffs brand from Amazon.

 

[Clark Kent]

For taste control you will want to build a coil around .5 and up. lower ohms and it kicks into Watt mode or at least it does on mine. If I were to use a SS build I would go with 26-28g with 24g it would be hard to get duals in most rdas to get up to .5

 

[jj6404]

For taste control you will want to build a coil around .5 and up. lower ohms and it kicks into Watt mode or at least it does on mine. If I were to use a SS build I would go with 26-28g with 24g it would be hard to get duals in most rdas to get up to .5

For the week that my brand new Asolo worked before it just died, I used only builds from 0.15-0.26 ohms in kanthal, SS, and titanium. Taste control and the "temp control" worked with the same frequency that P.Busardo and other reviewers described with 0.5 ohm builds and above.

 

[benjamminj]

For taste control you will want to build a coil around .5 and up. lower ohms and it kicks into Watt mode or at least it does on mine. If I were to use a SS build I would go with 26-28g with 24g it would be hard to get duals in most rdas to get up to .5

For the week that my brand new Asolo worked before it just died, I used only builds from 0.15-0.26 ohms in kanthal, SS, and titanium. Taste control and the "temp control" worked with the same frequency that P.Busardo and other reviewers described with 0.5 ohm builds and above.

From what I have watched
and read in section 11 of the manualhttp://www.ijoycig.com/asolo.zip the Asolo final retail version seems to work just fine when the parameters laid out in the manual are followed. Namely .3 mm wire or less (28 gauge or higher) .5 ohms or higher on non contact coil (per USMCotaku New asolo version!) build for kanthal. Also, from what I understand you do not need to vape Ni or Ti in regular wattage mode prior to entering temp control mode (see video at 24:40). However I am getting it for kanthal and ss as I am still unsure about vaping on nickel or ti. Not trying to start a debate about Ni or Ti I just need to research those two more for my own personal comfort level.

Thanks much to you vaping vets for all of your input. Much appreciated! I think I am set I will post my experience with the device once I get going on it.

 

[jj6404]

From what I have watched
and read in section 11 of the manualhttp://www.ijoycig.com/asolo.zip the Asolo final retail version seems to work just fine when the parameters laid out in the manual are followed. Namely .3 mm wire or less (28 gauge or higher) .5 ohms or higher on non contact coil (per USMCotaku New asolo version!) build for kanthal. Also, from what I understand you do not need to vape Ni or Ti in regular wattage mode prior to entering temp control mode (see video at 24:40). However I am getting it for kanthal and ss as I am still unsure about vaping on nickel or ti. Not trying to start a debate about Ni or Ti I just need to research those two more for my own personal comfort level.

Thanks much to you vaping vets for all of your input. Much appreciated! I think I am set I will post my experience with the device once I get going on it.

I'm not gonna post the other reviewers videos like P.Busardo, who is like the technical king in the vaping world. I'm assuming you are a beginner here so I thought I would mention it. DJLSVapes is someone I follow as well and I know he did not go into detail as far to realize and/or mention that the "temp control" works on the same tech and does take "learning" to work PROPERLY. I am speaking from my own experience with the Asolo and other temp control devices and other prominent reviewers. You DO need to vape TC-only wires on wattage mode to teach it in order for its version of temp control to work PROPERLY. If you do not, then you are limited to a 40 watt weak semi-temp control dry hit protection that will kick in way too early. I have a DNA200 which is the most advanced temp control board on the market by far, and I have compared it with the Asolo and a Koopor Mini which several reviewers like DJLSBVapes and P.Busardo with the proper testing equipment have praised for its temp control accuracy as well. If you're a beginner, I would do more research than watch one review and I would listen to the vapers on the forums telling you things from experience. When you get it and finally try nickel or titanium on it, you will see.

 

[Wingsfan0310]

When I mentioned you need to let it learn in normal TC, I was told I'm wrong. I've had it since it was released. On another thread someone who works for the company (Grace Chen) said you have to let it learn in normal TC as well. Not sure if there are different versions or why there is this discrepancy. Since I've gotten my DNA200 mods, I haven't really used it much, if at all.

Cheers,
Steve

 

[benjamminj]

I'm not gonna post the other reviewers videos like P.Busardo, who is like the technical king in the vaping world. I'm assuming you are a beginner here so I thought I would mention it. DJLSVapes is someone I follow as well and I know he did not go into detail as far to realize and/or mention that the "temp control" works on the same tech and does take "learning" to work PROPERLY. I am speaking from my own experience with the Asolo and other temp control devices and other prominent reviewers. You DO need to vape TC-only wires on wattage mode to teach it in order for its version of temp control to work PROPERLY. If you do not, then you are limited to a 40 watt weak semi-temp control dry hit protection that will kick in way too early. I have a DNA200 which is the most advanced temp control board on the market by far, and I have compared it with the Asolo and a Koopor Mini which several reviewers like DJLSBVapes and P.Busardo with the proper testing equipment have praised for its temp control accuracy as well. If you're a beginner, I would do more research than watch one review and I would listen to the vapers on the forums telling you things from experience. When you get it and finally try nickel or titanium on it, you will see.

I think I have watched just about every video out there including pbusardo who is frickin awesome! I guess I missed that thing about it staying at 40w in TC unless you give it a good learnin. My bad, I think I glazed over a bit because as you said I am a noob and he gets sooooo technical. I like this guys review also

At 11:48 he addresses the .3 mm or less diameter coil thing.

 

[benjamminj]

Ha ha the video I just posted also talks about setting it in TC mode. I guessed I really missed the boat on that one. Probably because I am not interested in Ni or Ti yet. But still this is a good lesson for a new guy. I will keep my yapper shut on things I don't know about. Thanks again for the input

 

[jj6404]

Ha ha the video I just posted also talks about setting it in TC mode. I guessed I really missed the boat on that one. Probably because I am not interested in Ni or Ti yet. But still this is a good lesson for a new guy. I will keep my yapper shut on things I don't know about. Thanks again for the input

Yeah man, I was just about to post when I saw your second to last post before seeing your last one, Brian from TVC mentions that same thing I was saying too lol. Yeah, pretty much every popular TC mod out there (excluding DNA devices) uses a similar tech to do TC involving mathematical curves to guess the temp by applied wattage and the inputted values of the wire material. Most of the good ones feel similar at similar settings. The Asolo uses a unique technology that allows it to prevent dry hits using Kanthal. It's the learning feature of the chip. I'm sure they have mathematical values programmed in for nickel and titanium because they wouldn't have those as modes if they didn't, but you can feel and see when you go from using kanthal in taste control to titanium in their "temp control", that it is using the same feature of the chip. The firing in non-TC mode before using TC may only be necessary to go above 40 watts. But from my experience, even without doing it, the 40 watt limited temp control felt really wonky and inconsistent compared to other temp control devices I have used. This aligns with what P.Busardo and Brian experienced in their videos and like WingsFan said, if an employee from the iJoy company actually admitted that you have to do it, I'm pretty sure my assumption is correct here ya know...

No worries man just trying to help. Sorry if I came off a little aggressively in my last post. We're just trying to help you avoid some bad experiences and mistakes. There's nothing more that I hate than stubborn and ignorant vapers out there not doing their research and spreading false word about vape tech and safety who just endanger more people and help us lose the battle against the FDA.

 

[benjamminj]

No worries man just trying to help. Sorry if I came off a little aggressively in my last post. We're just trying to help you avoid some bad experiences and mistakes. There's nothing more that I hate than stubborn and ignorant vapers out there not doing their research and spreading false word about vape tech and safety who just endanger more people and help us lose the battle against the FDA.

Thanks for the help much appreciated I do not ever want to be thought of or viewed as a stubborn ignorant vaper who spreads false words about vape tech and safety who endangers people and helps us (meaning me also, I am us) to lose the battle against the FDA.

I can see how it would be easy to slip into aggressive mode if you continually come up against stubborn, clueless people who don't back down when they are wrong. I am not one of those people though
Which is why when I am wrong I promptly admit it and say things like my bad and I will keep my yapper shut in a friendly self deprecating manner. That is what these forums are for. Learning and sharing the truth. If I did not want input I would not be here so I welcome and appreciate friendly direction wholeheartedly.

Thanks again for trying to help me avoid some bad experiences and mistakes. I truly do appreciate it. I hope the Asolo works for me with kanthal and ss coils as it is already on the way!

 

[jj6404]

Thanks for the help much appreciated I do not ever want to be thought of or viewed as a stubborn ignorant vaper who spreads false words about vape tech and safety who endangers people and helps us (meaning me also, I am us) to lose the battle against the FDA.

I can see how it would be easy to slip into aggressive mode if you continually come up against stubborn, clueless people who don't back down when they are wrong. I am not one of those people though
Which is why when I am wrong I promptly admit it and say things like my bad and I will keep my yapper shut in a friendly self deprecating manner. That is what these forums are for. Learning and sharing the truth. If I did not want input I would not be here so I welcome and appreciate friendly direction wholeheartedly.

Thanks again for trying to help me avoid some bad experiences and mistakes. I truly do appreciate it. I hope the Asolo works for me with kanthal and ss coils as it is already on the way!

It will work for you. Just be patient with it and follow the directions of P.Busardo lol. The instruction manual it comes with has some language issues.

 

[benjamminj]

It will work for you. Just be patient with it and follow the directions of P.Busardo lol. The instruction manual it comes with has some language issues.

Yep I am going to watch the P Busardo video again and pay closer attention! I'll have a mt dew before watching so I can make it through all the technical stuff lol.