I mentioned in another post video games are rated for maturity for a particular age
group for being appropriate not, because of any harm to the child or harm that the
child may cause another. Let them be kids and all that.
Regards
Mike
Ill Advised E-liquid Packaging?
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group for being appropriate not, because of any harm to the child or harm that the
child may cause another. Let them be kids and all that.
Regards
Mike
I agree let them be kids and all that. But the realistic kill games shouldn't be marketed to children. That being said, I watched the hell out of horror movies when I was a kid and yeah, they were rated R, but I didn't act them out. A fine line I suppose.
I watch my fair share of children's tv, having a young child. I have never seen an ad on one of her stations for either a violent video game, or vapor products. I'm wondering where this supposed marketing is supposed to be happening? Is it possible that these things are being marketed to adults and the "children" just happen to be seeing it? Perhaps they're watching things that they shouldn't be? Like all those parents that took their kids to the R rated Deadpool movie?
It's fine to feel that way. Its the same distinction when it come to advertising and flavors.
They do not make you do anything.
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mike
I've said it before, there are those who take responsibility and those who want to make everybody else responsible. I've met parents who'd rather protest or sue against stuff that is "inappropriate" for children instead of educating their kids. Unfortunately it's easier for lawmakers to put in restrictions and enjoy how people would rather give away their freedom rather than take responsibility.
You make a great point here! My daughter who is now 19 tells her friends how I was about her watching appropiate for her age tv programming. One of her examples was South Park. All of her friends were able to watch it at a very young age but I wouldn't let her even though she said I watched it at the time she wasn't able to watch it with me. That said, I know I couldn't control what she would watch at her friend's houses but I could at home.
This is something I don't understand. Most vapers recognize the "nanny state" and are angered when they try to regulate flavors, or apply a tax, or spread misinformation about the safety of vaping. However, on certain issues, "we" are willing to just roll over and accept it, even though there is as little, or less evidence that there is actually a problem.
ETA: there are some vapers who will go out of their way to search out "problems" and spread them as far and wide as they can, bringing exactly the kind of attention they say they want to avoid.
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Personally, in my country, we don't have a right to vape. I don't think that actually exists. I do believe we have to fight to get it but I'm not sure what the best approach is. I think it was you who was saying we shouldn't accept or avoid Vaping in non smoking areas, the fact that it doesn't harm others and it's not forbidden doesn't give me the right to do it. I believe in asking those around me and then Vaping happily. I believe if all vapers where courtious, polite and cased the less discomfort to others possible, we would be in a better place.
That's actually exactly the way I behave. There is a difference between showing common courtesy and not vaping if it will bother someone else, and telling people they should "only vape where they can smoke."
Even though I am a former smoker I actually do not want to be vaping in a area with smokers because of the second hand smoke. I did not give up smoking to be breathing in smoke (Second Hand) and I will not bother someone who is smoking because I want to vape. I also was standing under an awning outside in the rain at a store one time and a woman started giving me a hard time because she first thought I was smoking and when she realized I was vaping she went off on me about the nicotine. When I said I was vaping ZERO nicotine she made a face and walked away..........
I'm glad we agree @Lessifer can we also agree that we should fight for what we need? We need flavors, we need open systems, we need to be viewed as non smokers, we need to pay reasonable taxes not "sin" taxes, and we need to be left alone. I personally don't need juice that looks like nerdz (would love the flavor probably though) and I don't need Hello Kitty drip tips (even though my wife would love to have one).
If you cave on packaging because "it appeals to children" how do you fight to keep flavors that "appeal to children?"
IMO fighting the ridiculous argument that these things are targeting kids is fighting for both packaging and flavors by exposing the lie.
Just Curious.
How Exactly are you going to Fight these "Lies"?
And or, who are you going to get to Champion your Fight?
By countering every post on here, facebook, article comments section and challenging the idea that the vaping industry is targeting minors.
How would you fight the notion that flavors are targeting minors, and therefore should be banned?
If a company has packaging that appeals to minors my feeling is change the packaging. Simple way to change the perception.
I have been trying to find a way to address the News Stations reporting of an exploding battery last night. Sensationalized and big story on the "dangers". Why was it not asked why he had his MOD in his front pocket of his jeans? Why was it not reported that he apparently was not using his device correctly?
I have been trying to find a way to address the News Stations reporting of an exploding battery last night. Sensationalized and big story on the "dangers". Why was it not asked why he had his MOD in his front pocket of his jeans? Why was it not reported that he apparently was not using his device correctly?
OK...
But I'll be Honest with You. I Don't Think there are very many Policy Makers out there who believe that e-Cigarettes are being Marketed towards Minors.
There are those who may get up on a Soap Box and say so, But Very Few actually believe it is True.
Just like after an 18+ Age Limit, and No Internet Sales, there Isn't much that will Stem Minors from using e-Cigarettes.
If it's the story that's been posted around here today, it was a spare battery in his pocket, a LOOSE battery. In other words, not actually related to the mod.
There is definitely a public perception issue. We could go the route of dropping the "easy" stuff, like packaging, but do you honestly think they'll stop there?
I'm not saying it will be easy, or even possible for that matter, but I personally won't contribute to furthering the misinformation.
No this was on last nights Channel 4 New York News. They did not provide more details on it but it appeared to be a whole device.
We don't have to cave on packaging, my point is we don't need the packaging, if we, from the inside keep it less flashy, we fight for what we need, then we can package things however we want. But maybe we can win the whole fight from the get go as I believe you are proposing, and that would be great.
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