Fine! You got me to create a <ugh> Twitter account.
Done <sigh>.
I resisted for so long too....
I'm angry about the recent negative articles - what can I do?
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Fine! You got me to create a <ugh> Twitter account.
Done <sigh>.
I resisted for so long too....
LA region today, KFI Radio, Bill Carroll show - e-cigs segment. OMG, so much disinformation. I actually managed to call in and get on the air to tell them they are way off base on this. You should have heard the complete BS he was spouting.
I started off saying he's way off base - first of all it's NOT smoking. There's no burning tobacco. Nicotine is not dangerous to your health, and only about half of users choose liquied with nic. Unforutunately I got disconnected before any really good points could be made. I really wanted to ask if he'd read the Drexel-U report. I'll bet not.
If you feel like it, write him: Bill Carroll
So frustrating!!!
I started off saying he's way off base - first of all it's NOT smoking. There's no burning tobacco. Nicotine is not dangerous to your health, and only about half of users choose liquied with nic. Unforutunately I got disconnected before any really good points could be made. I really wanted to ask if he'd read the Drexel-U report. I'll bet not.
If you feel like it, write him: Bill Carroll
So frustrating!!!
I ended up emailing Bill Carroll myself. I got to thinking about all the things I didn't get to say, so here's what I sent. They replied with a 'thank you' and 'sorry you got disconnected'.
Bill,
Chris here from OC, got disconnected from your show today.
The reason you are so way off base on this subject is because vaping is NOT smoking. First and foremost. Theres no burning tobacco, there isnt even anything burning. Theres no second hand smoke.
Have you not read the Drexel University scientific test and report on vaping and e-cigs? Do a google search.
Nicotine is contained only when chosen. About half of the users dont use nicotine. Smokers trying to quit choose it get the nicotine they desire and are addicted to.
Nicotine in itself is not deleterious to your health. Its found in all kinds of food stuffs, like tomatos.
An addiction in itself isnt always dangerous either. Caffeine is addictive are we outlawing coffee? Video gaming is addictive are we going to outlaw that?
Carcinogens are not generally found in e-juice. Someone tested some obscure juices. Its all bogus.
The flavors are not targeted at children. Thats just bogus too. Alcohol comes in flavors does that mean its targeted at children? Just more total BS.
Our 18 year old went out and got a PV. Its just not a problem. He doesnt use nicotine. He doesnt smoke pot or use drugs.
You need to do some more research on this, its a political football. Big pharm, the health industry, tobacco industry, and the fed government are all against it for loss of revenue. And thats it. If people quit smoking they are gonna lose big time they already are. Its said tobacco sales are off 20%. The vaping industry is slated to top 1.4 billion for 2013.
Even your callers are way off base on vaping. There is so much mis-information its staggering.
Visit http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com BTW, September 19th is international Vaping Day. Check it out.
For me personally, as a half-pack a day smoker, I took up vaping about 3 weeks ago and found it very easy to quit smoking regular cigarettes. And yes, it costs much less than regular cigarettes. I dont stink anymore, I feel better, I breath better, I have quit smoking. Vaping is just not the same thing.
My wife is a cancer survivor for 12 years lymphoma. She quit smoking the week before chemo therapies started. She has been jonesing for a menthol cig for all this time. So now she vapes a menthol flavor without nicotine.
The government needs to stay out of this. Its simply a money-grab, control, social engineering. We just dont need more of that. Sure, limit purchase age to 18 so kids arent doing it, but leave the rest of society alone.
--Chris Brown
OC-CAL
Chris here from OC, got disconnected from your show today.
The reason you are so way off base on this subject is because vaping is NOT smoking. First and foremost. Theres no burning tobacco, there isnt even anything burning. Theres no second hand smoke.
Have you not read the Drexel University scientific test and report on vaping and e-cigs? Do a google search.
Nicotine is contained only when chosen. About half of the users dont use nicotine. Smokers trying to quit choose it get the nicotine they desire and are addicted to.
Nicotine in itself is not deleterious to your health. Its found in all kinds of food stuffs, like tomatos.
An addiction in itself isnt always dangerous either. Caffeine is addictive are we outlawing coffee? Video gaming is addictive are we going to outlaw that?
Carcinogens are not generally found in e-juice. Someone tested some obscure juices. Its all bogus.
The flavors are not targeted at children. Thats just bogus too. Alcohol comes in flavors does that mean its targeted at children? Just more total BS.
Our 18 year old went out and got a PV. Its just not a problem. He doesnt use nicotine. He doesnt smoke pot or use drugs.
You need to do some more research on this, its a political football. Big pharm, the health industry, tobacco industry, and the fed government are all against it for loss of revenue. And thats it. If people quit smoking they are gonna lose big time they already are. Its said tobacco sales are off 20%. The vaping industry is slated to top 1.4 billion for 2013.
Even your callers are way off base on vaping. There is so much mis-information its staggering.
Visit http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com BTW, September 19th is international Vaping Day. Check it out.
For me personally, as a half-pack a day smoker, I took up vaping about 3 weeks ago and found it very easy to quit smoking regular cigarettes. And yes, it costs much less than regular cigarettes. I dont stink anymore, I feel better, I breath better, I have quit smoking. Vaping is just not the same thing.
My wife is a cancer survivor for 12 years lymphoma. She quit smoking the week before chemo therapies started. She has been jonesing for a menthol cig for all this time. So now she vapes a menthol flavor without nicotine.
The government needs to stay out of this. Its simply a money-grab, control, social engineering. We just dont need more of that. Sure, limit purchase age to 18 so kids arent doing it, but leave the rest of society alone.
--Chris Brown
OC-CAL
I found this in Reasearch and it is Spot on what People of action Need...a Form letter That can Easily be Edited for to Address anyone and pasted to be sent off to Inform thoses who want to belive the Hype and Not information from the people that are Involed...Please do a little bit every day , as it is Crunch Time;The More Voices the Louder we are and the Less they can say...
I believe it is a memeber of Parliment..MEP Member of the European Parliament
For all of those on ECF who are members of CASAA, (and why everyone on ECF is not a member of CASAA is baffling), I would hope we would all put a CASAA banner at the bottom of our posts so new members would be more inclined to check out CASAA and join. CASAA needs more members, especially supporting members. We can't fight the ANTZ's on the cheap.
Update on the Bill Carroll Show. At approximately 13 minutes in this segment I got on to talk and it's now obvious that I got cutoff intentionally. Since I disagreed with his notion that they are bad they didn't want a dissenting voice.
Teens and E-Cigs 1PM (9/9)
What a bunch of hogwash this guy. They just lost another listener.
Teens and E-Cigs 1PM (9/9)
What a bunch of hogwash this guy. They just lost another listener.
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I just listened. Wow, that guy doesn't have a clue, or has an agenda. Thank you for trying to put some support out there.
CASAA: Call to Action: World Vaping Day is 9/19/2013!
This thread is where it all began. Happy reading!
As a Shameless Bump....What have you done to give Vaping a positive spin TODAY? http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...t-vape-daily-action-plan-monday-9-9-13-a.html i konw it is not the Right link but it will get you to the right place...Please get involved for 5 minutes a Day and lessen the effects of what is to come...
They don't read the Drexel study, or any other positive study, because they are too busy lobbying to get towns to ban vapers.
The literature they use consists of the FDA's first reports (fear mongering) that the Drexel report proves to be false and misleading.
Drexel study vs changelabsolutions.org
The literature they use consists of the FDA's first reports (fear mongering) that the Drexel report proves to be false and misleading.
Drexel study vs changelabsolutions.org
Has anyone posted a concise rebuttal to expose the FDA bias?
Any good links to help folks like me who can admit our lack of debate skills?
Wish I was smart enough to work this angle, but I'd end up being used against my beloved vapors!
I do know I must respect those who fear Vapors, in order to "correctly" educate the miss informed.
It's a start...
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