I'm not a smoker. Is this worth getting into?
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I am going to repeat again, ask your doctor before putting new things into your body for the best answer. We are all weary because we worry that e-cigs will be taken away, so we are a bit anxious when asked things like this.
Fair enough. Nevertheless, I think calling someone's question moronic is rude. Noob is also the pejorative version of newbie. But I'm new here, and if that is how people in this community act, then I guess I'll just have to grow a thicker skin.
Could you define the spirit of this forum then? If I, as a non-smoker, am not welcome, then just come right out and say it. If I, as someone who, I guess, is interested in this as "fad", is not welcome, then say so. You should spell that out before someone registers here. As e-cigs take off in popularity, I'm sure there will be plenty of other people like me who want to experience the flavors and fun ritualistic aspects of vaping while remaining nicotine free.
Thank you for the link! I assume those are designed to be used when cooking, so whatever organic compounds are in there to provide flavors must be able to stand up to high temperatures, right? So there's no need to worry about anything breaking down into a toxic chemical when it is vaporized.
Everyone ignore the tool.... Talk amongst yourselves.... Don't give Mr/Mrs. "Idontusetobacco" the time of day.... there is something CLEARLY off about each and every one of his/ her posts.... if you don't pick up on this- then you are a bit dull 
I must be thick today...I'm totally missing it.
Oh well..wouldn't be the first time...
Oh well..wouldn't be the first time...
I hated feeling lightheaded. I hated feeling my heart beating faster and my blood pressure go up. I could feel the other typical physiological changes that nicotine typically brings about, and those were nice, but I can't tell you how much I hate feeling light headed! It's definitely not something I want to try again (nicotine, that is)
Well, I will certainly consider that. I just don't think it would be as fun.
didja check the nightstand next to the bed?
I'll check there in a minute...I'm looking for my glasses
ok, here is the deal. TBH we don't know if vaping is safe, but we KNOW tobacco will kill us. We are addicted to nicotine and though we aren't 100% sure it safer then cigs it seems like it would be and for most of use its worth the risk. If you are really interested in vaping wait until some studies have been done on the long term effects of vaping PG or VG, if it shows it completely harmless go for it. but if your not addicted to nicotine or the habit of smoking there really is no reason to risk it.
I messed up my quote tags and I can't seem to find an edit button. Are edits on this forum disabled? Here's what I meant to say. If a mod could fix my quote tags for me, feel free to delete this post.
Actually, you raise a very good point! I don't have any experience smoking, really, besides the one time at the hookah bar, but my understanding is that you can chose to inhale directly into your lungs, or just fill your mouth. So I could just suck the vapor into my mouth, taste it, and then blow it out. Then there's absolutely no concern about the stuff getting into my lungs.
Actually, you raise a very good point! I don't have any experience smoking, really, besides the one time at the hookah bar, but my understanding is that you can chose to inhale directly into your lungs, or just fill your mouth. So I could just suck the vapor into my mouth, taste it, and then blow it out. Then there's absolutely no concern about the stuff getting into my lungs.
If we convert a non-smoker to a vape... a way to take nicotin to our lungs - FDA and anti-smoking groups will have their field day. That, we defintely don't want to begin with.
You are an intelligent fella who knows the difference between 0 nicotin and all - but to their eyes (anti-smoking groups/politicians) - it's all same to their eyes. Many of us, certainly don't want to draw such negative attention at the verge of possible FDA banning. On the contrary, we'd like to show the world, how e-smoking has changed our smoking habit. How e-cig made to stop smoking and improve our health and all.
I suggest to get on vaping at least AFTER FDA approval/regulation. We might be in more welcoming mood by then.
You are an intelligent fella who knows the difference between 0 nicotin and all - but to their eyes (anti-smoking groups/politicians) - it's all same to their eyes. Many of us, certainly don't want to draw such negative attention at the verge of possible FDA banning. On the contrary, we'd like to show the world, how e-smoking has changed our smoking habit. How e-cig made to stop smoking and improve our health and all.
I suggest to get on vaping at least AFTER FDA approval/regulation. We might be in more welcoming mood by then.
Everyone ignore the tool.... Talk amongst yourselves.... Don't give Mr/Mrs. "Idontusetobacco" the time of day.... there is something CLEARLY off about each and every one of his/ her posts.... if you don't pick up on this- then you are a bit dull
I couldn't have said it better myself!
Read about concern trolls and sockpuppets , then decide if you're gonna post any more on this thread or not.
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THANK YOU.... Why doesn't everyone get it?
Sorry, but you are being naive. This IS an anti smoker searching for a way to make vapors look bad and then write about it. They do that all the time. On Topix, there was a posting by a supposed 12 year old, claiming to be addicted to his mom's smokes. Nothing in his posting even resembled what a 12 year old would write. Neither does anything in this troll's posting suggest anything but phishing. We ..... about anti smokers because they are .....es. So is this tool.
I really didn't want to post but I am going to anyway.
A question like "Is it worth it" is completely subjective, and thus, not easily answered. Since there are, to my knowledge, no members here who are not, or at least were not, addicted to nicotine we have no experience with which to answer your question.
I had not smoked for years but was increasingly feeling the desire to start again. Thankfully I found out about vaping and made a personal decision to do that instead. I have since gone from 18mg liquid down to less than 3mg and mostly I vape non-nic. There are sub-forums and groups dedicated specifically to 0-nic vaping. Perhaps you could get a better answer there.
A question like "Is it worth it" is completely subjective, and thus, not easily answered. Since there are, to my knowledge, no members here who are not, or at least were not, addicted to nicotine we have no experience with which to answer your question.
I had not smoked for years but was increasingly feeling the desire to start again. Thankfully I found out about vaping and made a personal decision to do that instead. I have since gone from 18mg liquid down to less than 3mg and mostly I vape non-nic. There are sub-forums and groups dedicated specifically to 0-nic vaping. Perhaps you could get a better answer there.
People keep saying "addiction". No one has told me yet just how I'm suppose to get addicted to something that doesn't have any drugs in it! Propylene glycol doesn't particularly worry me either, since it's in everything else. I use Angostura bitters in my martini's and manhattan's all the time
And since I might be vaping, maybe 1/50? as frequently as a former smoker, I'm not worried too much about inhaling it as a vapor either.
You could possibly become addicted to the HABIT itself. To act like you are smoking with a PV is IMO childish and uninteligent.
I think that many of you are missing the point. If this person is genuine, there's going to be many more like him. I'm not a non-tobacco using person either, but I am far from most of the fully addicted people on this forum. I've gone years with no smoke, maybe a casual cigar or social cigarette every now and then. I've been able to just stop whenever I want. When I learned of this product, I was interested because I always liked the "feel" of smoking, it's pleasurable, not unlike having a drink every now and then. I just did not care for the after affects on my body (coughing, mass mucus, bad smells, lung damage...). I do like the taste of tobacco, as I have never stopped smoking cigars. This all led me to try vaping. I can say that I am hooked on this, not in the addicted way, but find it extremely satisfying. I echo Nuck in saying that it's pleasurable way to pass time while I watch a movie/tv/internet/whatever...
Anyway, back to my point, there are going to be many more legitimate people that have this interest. Not everyone is prone to nicotine addiction. If they stay away from nic altogether, the only harm they are doing is most likely nothing more than what they could do using a tobacco or leaf product in a hookah/..../pipe/cigar, probably even less damage. There are other types of smoking that this can replace and there are many other types of people that do these activities. Is this forum going to push them away and be the single focus anti-addiction snobs (like the various Anti-smoking people are) instead of trying to put as much information out there as possible. I always believe that we should give all the info we have and let the people make up their own minds. You don't have to be rude or accuse them of phishing/scamming... to tell them your opinion. Just let them know your experiences and leave it there. From all the reading I've done here, there really is no reason to hide anything. There's no reason a person phishing would get anything they couldn't find in the forum already. It's all pretty open and public. We're all adults here and can make up our own minds. I would hate to ask a question and be called a "tool" or say it's "moronic".
There's good and bad regarding this product, mainly because there is no testing done on it. All the information that people here have found out through trial and error, experience and the opinions of other people help to educate us all. Does this forum only stand for people that were/are addicted to nicotine only? I thought that this was a place that people, (ex)smokers or not, that are interested in Vaping can come to educate themselves and find out if this is really for them. At least that's why I found myself here.
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Anyway, back to my point, there are going to be many more legitimate people that have this interest. Not everyone is prone to nicotine addiction. If they stay away from nic altogether, the only harm they are doing is most likely nothing more than what they could do using a tobacco or leaf product in a hookah/..../pipe/cigar, probably even less damage. There are other types of smoking that this can replace and there are many other types of people that do these activities. Is this forum going to push them away and be the single focus anti-addiction snobs (like the various Anti-smoking people are) instead of trying to put as much information out there as possible. I always believe that we should give all the info we have and let the people make up their own minds. You don't have to be rude or accuse them of phishing/scamming... to tell them your opinion. Just let them know your experiences and leave it there. From all the reading I've done here, there really is no reason to hide anything. There's no reason a person phishing would get anything they couldn't find in the forum already. It's all pretty open and public. We're all adults here and can make up our own minds. I would hate to ask a question and be called a "tool" or say it's "moronic".
There's good and bad regarding this product, mainly because there is no testing done on it. All the information that people here have found out through trial and error, experience and the opinions of other people help to educate us all. Does this forum only stand for people that were/are addicted to nicotine only? I thought that this was a place that people, (ex)smokers or not, that are interested in Vaping can come to educate themselves and find out if this is really for them. At least that's why I found myself here.
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