If I vape in a store I do it in a deserted aisle and blow it down my shirt. I turn the wattage down to 6 or 7 watts and the vapor is thin.
I've vaped in Kroger, Kmart, Walmart, and Dollar General (and many other stores) for years and have never set off an alarm. The only place I've ever had management mention my vaping was a couple of weeks ago in Chili's, of all places. The manager came over and informed me that they had a company wide policy that prohibited vaping. He added that he didn't mind, but was obligated to enforce company policy. I put up my mod and didn't vape while I ate.
I understand cloud blowing is offensive in public and I don't sub ohm anyway. I'm always at 10 watts or under, mostly around 3.7v on a 2 ohm coil. Vaping in public is how I've become involved with people who are curious about vaping. They come over and ask me in a positive way about vaping. I get to explain how it works, where they can buy what they need, and tell how it enabled me to finally get rid of tobacco cigarettes. Everyone has a relative who smokes and they are happy to obtain some honest information about vaping. I've never had anyone walk up and tell me to stop (except in Chili's).
Exactly this. There are ways to vape in public that no one will ever know about, and what they don't know can't hurt any of us, or them either.
I don't usually vape in stores, though I sometimes take a puff or two in their bathroom, behind the stall door. I've taken one or two stealth puffs in stores; no one knew, so no one got huffy and self-righteous about it.
If the public at large never sees *actual* courteous vaping, all the info they will have is what the imbecile media is telling them, which is all that ANTZ garbage. They deserve to know, because as you point out Dave, most people still have some friends and/or family still in chains to cigarettes who would like to get free, if they thought there really was an ACTUAL way to do it that doesn't entail massive suffering. The public at large also deserves to know that most vaping is not offensive to anyone except the self-righteous thou-shalt-not fanatics.
Judging from the Tootle Puffer thread, those of us NOT blowing massive clouds FAR outnumber the ones who do -- and the public deserves to know that, too. This idea of "don't vape where you can't smoke" is completely illogical -- what we exhale is not very different from ambient air, in some cases might even be BETTER than ambient air -- it's just visible. I agree there are some places where it would be disrespectful to vape -- church, the main dining floor of a restaurant, or in the presence of someone who has a legitimate problem with something in the vapor -- allergies are real -- or even if someone POLITELY asks you if you could please refrain -- and maybe in a CROWD in a grocery store falls into that category, too.... but if no one sees it, then it's not hurting anyone.
All this hiding away, only vaping where smoking is permitted (which is exactly NO PLACE AT ALL!) is just reinforcing the ANTZ msg that vaping is the same and as bad as smoking, and it's nothing of the sort. The more that VAPERS buy into that garbage, the more the public will too.
Andria