I'm pretty sure I just set off the SMOKE ALARM at Kroger, OMG!
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I had it happen in a hotel room once. I was sitting right under it talking to my wife on the phone. I've also noticed if I hold the inhale for a bit 4 to 5 seconds or so there is little to no visible vapor on the exhale. Doesn't seem to be as satisfying a vape but would work for stealth purposes.
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Three words... because I can, it's called having an opinion. it's what these forums are all about, you don't have to agree with me, I certainly don't agree with you.
You should really practice the storytelling though, it could work for you.
Pretty soon we'll be paying taxes like smokers. Keep vaping how "you" want, it only hurts "all of us" in the end.
Yeah, let's all be passive and just allow whatever happens to happen. That doesn't work. People are misinformed. Vaping is NOT smoking. The misinformed need to be informed, not placated through our passivity.
So when you vape in stores do you go up to each and every customer and explain to them what it is? Because that would be the only way you could inform people. I see more people looking at you and thinking why is that guy blowing smoke everywhere this is a non smoking area, I'm going to complain. Then they do so and pretty soon you're not allowed to vape there.
I doubt it was you..it was probably the stock boy lighting up something that's not a vape in the back room
I stealth vape in Kroger regularly if it's a particularly long trip as my weekly ones often are by the time you get around to the eggs a half mile away..it's time for a vape or two *lol*(you try feeding my folks, us three, and then my daughter and her guy stop off for no less than two meals a week) it's a cart load..my cashier I like vapes too now (and is really appreciative of me introducing her to vaping) but I've been known to show her what I'm using and take a lil puff when checking out if there's no one else around it'd bother ..and we're in a major metro area..so if they've got those cams they're in use at ours but no alarms yet for 11 months now
I stealth vape in Kroger regularly if it's a particularly long trip as my weekly ones often are by the time you get around to the eggs a half mile away..it's time for a vape or two *lol*(you try feeding my folks, us three, and then my daughter and her guy stop off for no less than two meals a week) it's a cart load..my cashier I like vapes too now (and is really appreciative of me introducing her to vaping) but I've been known to show her what I'm using and take a lil puff when checking out if there's no one else around it'd bother ..and we're in a major metro area..so if they've got those cams they're in use at ours but no alarms yet for 11 months now
I was working a 36 hour shift once installing a new computer system. Got on the elevator to go outside and smoke a cigarette. I was so tired I forgot to press the down button, and lit a cigarette instead. Took a couple of drags before I woke up. I had just put it out and was about to press the button when the door opened and a couple of people walked in. That took a bit of explaining. I thought of that when I read your original post.
You did get a few somewhat righteous responses. Don't know why, it's not normally like that here. Have a good one.
^^English I'm with you..I just keep on keepin' on the only judgement I pass is on my own behavior..to each their own.
when I smoked I saw vapers in public vaping where I couldn't smoke...I sure never complained to management or anything like that..all power to 'em...that's on them..and none of my business. *shrugs*
when I smoked I saw vapers in public vaping where I couldn't smoke...I sure never complained to management or anything like that..all power to 'em...that's on them..and none of my business. *shrugs*
I literally just can't even believe how some of these people are being on this thread. I mean, I've seen some SERIOUS vape clouds before. It might only take one cloud to set off an alarm (**To be clear, I think it was a coincidence. They cook food in Kroger, think of the fried chicken they put out. There's any number of things that could have happened*)
And I think it's silly to let other people dictate what we can do because they think of it one way. I mean, the laws that might be passed? They would have been passed regardless of people complaining. No one looks to the people for guidance when passing laws anymore. It happens whether we want it to or not. They're going to raises taxes and this and that on vaping NO MATTER WHAT if they get their way because it means more money we have to give to them. I'm not saying it's cool to go around willy nilly blowing vapor everywhere, but it shouldn't matter if you're just vaping to yourself, or if accidents happen.
There are literally four ingredients in the juice I use. I refuse to believe that the vapor I put out is actually hurting anyone. The way I see it, years and years ago, there weren't tons of people getting sick or getting cancer from smoking. You know what caused the majority of that? The 7k chemicals they added to the tabacco. My father died of lung cancer from smoking all his life. He died at 45, when I was 16 (I'm almost 22 now). He continued to smoke while he was on his death bed, stating, "I'm already dying. I should be allowed to enjoy myself. Stopping smoking isn't going to save me." He had stage 4 terminal lung cancer and died. I think, if he'd been smoking just tabacco for his lifetime or had stopped smoking all together or had used a vaporizer, he might not have died.
It's just silly to stop doing something because it *might* offend someone. Lots of people get really offended, really quick and it comes from the fact that no one knows how to get over themselves. Be and let be. How long till offended people and those backing up the beliefs of those offended people (closet vapers) cause vaping stores to not be allowed to have their doors open to let the vapor out? My Avail literally keeps their door open. How long till that "offends someone"?
It's not about me being allowed to do what I want, when I want, and I'm FROM the "millennial" generation. It's about me having the right to not hide something that isn't hurting anyone and me having the option to be courteous or not be courteous. That's how people are going to see those who vape: by how they hold themselves and act. If you're sticking to yourself or just generally being a decent person, only those really *sensitive* (ha) people will get upset.
And in the end, the laws and such are going to be passed no matter what because no one in power listens to anyone at all anymore. It's all about money and influence.
And I think it's silly to let other people dictate what we can do because they think of it one way. I mean, the laws that might be passed? They would have been passed regardless of people complaining. No one looks to the people for guidance when passing laws anymore. It happens whether we want it to or not. They're going to raises taxes and this and that on vaping NO MATTER WHAT if they get their way because it means more money we have to give to them. I'm not saying it's cool to go around willy nilly blowing vapor everywhere, but it shouldn't matter if you're just vaping to yourself, or if accidents happen.
There are literally four ingredients in the juice I use. I refuse to believe that the vapor I put out is actually hurting anyone. The way I see it, years and years ago, there weren't tons of people getting sick or getting cancer from smoking. You know what caused the majority of that? The 7k chemicals they added to the tabacco. My father died of lung cancer from smoking all his life. He died at 45, when I was 16 (I'm almost 22 now). He continued to smoke while he was on his death bed, stating, "I'm already dying. I should be allowed to enjoy myself. Stopping smoking isn't going to save me." He had stage 4 terminal lung cancer and died. I think, if he'd been smoking just tabacco for his lifetime or had stopped smoking all together or had used a vaporizer, he might not have died.
It's just silly to stop doing something because it *might* offend someone. Lots of people get really offended, really quick and it comes from the fact that no one knows how to get over themselves. Be and let be. How long till offended people and those backing up the beliefs of those offended people (closet vapers) cause vaping stores to not be allowed to have their doors open to let the vapor out? My Avail literally keeps their door open. How long till that "offends someone"?
It's not about me being allowed to do what I want, when I want, and I'm FROM the "millennial" generation. It's about me having the right to not hide something that isn't hurting anyone and me having the option to be courteous or not be courteous. That's how people are going to see those who vape: by how they hold themselves and act. If you're sticking to yourself or just generally being a decent person, only those really *sensitive* (ha) people will get upset.
And in the end, the laws and such are going to be passed no matter what because no one in power listens to anyone at all anymore. It's all about money and influence.
Well according to YOU we're already not allowed to vape there! Make up your mind!
Andria
Same for my dad. He'd been quit for about 6 months when he got his diagnosis, small-cell lung cancer. He started smoking again, because he said that he refused to let his last time on earth be anymore miserable than the cancer itself was already going to ensure. He was relatively symptom-free, and HAPPY, for most the time he had left, about a year and a half. Right near the very end, the smoke made him cough too much, so he laid them aside, and I think he was grateful that the end came as quickly as it did, he was so miserable.
That's the thing the ANTZ just do not get. "Quit smoking, you'll live longer." What's the point of living longer, just to be miserable longer?
Andria
Sorry I should have said that's when they add no electronic cigarettes to their no smoking signs, and when did the attitude on this site change from be respectful of store policies to vape wherever the *%^& you want.
I'm so sick of people posting stories like this and then getting defensive about it. Don't smoke or vape in grocery stores and private businesses, it's just dumb and you make all of us look bad and further prove points being made against us. It's rude and reflects poorly on the community. Be respectful, that's it...it's not complicated. We couldn't smoke cigs in these places what makes you think this is ok? Same goes with flipping air planes, why in the world would you risk grounding a plane with federal consequences to vape, there is no situation that requires the immediate use of vape products, just wait and go outside....
Good lord.... Why does everyone choose to ignore the fact that she had an absent minded moment? The op doesn't say anything about "I was vaping in Kroger.....as usual..."
I think the rude, judgmental radicals running their mouths like they are something will hurt the community worse than anything else.
I think the rude, judgmental radicals running their mouths like they are something will hurt the community worse than anything else.
Here are Lawrence's vaping rules for Lawrence (my first name is Lawrence):
-If smoking is banned in an indoor space, I don't vape there. I don't want to attract attention (good OR bad) to myself. If it's somewhere that I need to be for more than an hour or two, I go to the restroom or step outside. Confrontation can only end badly for me in a place I don't own. Do I think that vaping regulations rest on how many people attract negative attention to themselves? Of course not, that would be naive to the extreme. However, if I can help chip away at that part of ANTZ's endless stream of false information, yeah, I'm all for that.
-If smoking is banned in an outdoor area, I WILL vape there if moving to a more "secluded" spot is even slightly inconvenient. It is outdoors where I feel in a comfortable enough position to challenge any objections to my vaping. Unless my vapor is up in your face, you best leave me alone. I'll respond to stranger's curiosity OR concern in whatever tone they address me, which is pretty much how I deal with people all the time.
Works out great for me, YMMV.
-If smoking is banned in an indoor space, I don't vape there. I don't want to attract attention (good OR bad) to myself. If it's somewhere that I need to be for more than an hour or two, I go to the restroom or step outside. Confrontation can only end badly for me in a place I don't own. Do I think that vaping regulations rest on how many people attract negative attention to themselves? Of course not, that would be naive to the extreme. However, if I can help chip away at that part of ANTZ's endless stream of false information, yeah, I'm all for that.
-If smoking is banned in an outdoor area, I WILL vape there if moving to a more "secluded" spot is even slightly inconvenient. It is outdoors where I feel in a comfortable enough position to challenge any objections to my vaping. Unless my vapor is up in your face, you best leave me alone. I'll respond to stranger's curiosity OR concern in whatever tone they address me, which is pretty much how I deal with people all the time.
Works out great for me, YMMV.
I was thinking the same as Ryedan, more or less how the attitude has changed around here. Year or two or ago it would have been the opposite. Those of us that thought to be courteous in areas where there was no smoking where blasted by those that thought it was their God given right to vape wherever their hell bent bleeding hearts wanted to. This thread is quite a big change from that time period.
For me? I don't give two hoots if you vape, smoke or whatever in public. You are a grown adult and have to take responsibility for the choice(s) you make. I look at it from a different point. You, in your haste, have just managed to shut down an business establishment for whatever period of time. The cops/fire department/ambulance were all notified and now have to come to that place of business. So not waiting for that little period of time cost a business a pretty penny. Not to mention all the shoppers that were inconvenienced as well.
On a side note.. It takes an amazing amount of vapor in my mind to get my home smoke detectors to go off. I can't imagine the wally world, in my area, smoke detectors going off with my vape.
For me? I don't give two hoots if you vape, smoke or whatever in public. You are a grown adult and have to take responsibility for the choice(s) you make. I look at it from a different point. You, in your haste, have just managed to shut down an business establishment for whatever period of time. The cops/fire department/ambulance were all notified and now have to come to that place of business. So not waiting for that little period of time cost a business a pretty penny. Not to mention all the shoppers that were inconvenienced as well.
On a side note.. It takes an amazing amount of vapor in my mind to get my home smoke detectors to go off. I can't imagine the wally world, in my area, smoke detectors going off with my vape.
Soooo... My take away from this entire thread is this....
If I ever DARE have an absent minded/woops moment and pull a vape where I shouldn't I had better not admit to it on this forum!
Wow, the OP made an absent minded mistake that sadly may have had consequences. This does not (in my mind) require immediate firing squad!
SMH
If I ever DARE have an absent minded/woops moment and pull a vape where I shouldn't I had better not admit to it on this forum!
Wow, the OP made an absent minded mistake that sadly may have had consequences. This does not (in my mind) require immediate firing squad!
SMH
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