I'm so sick of concerned friends and family!

[MikeZ28]

Found this page this morning.

Top 20 Rebuttals to Win an E-Cigarette Debate

Forum is cropping the url, so it can be found on pbusardo's site under the 'is vaping safe' section.

 

[Tbaggerr]

Found this page this morning. Top 20 Rebuttals to Win an E-Cigarette Debate

The link is broken

 

[Robino1]

Ooooh I got a good one for you, when a smoker sends you junk about ecigs.....email them an ad where the former smoker has a tube in their neck or one of the many scare ads that the ANTZ have put out.

I think they would get the message soon enough.

 

[Talyon]

Ty for sharing OP, just wanted to straighten a couple of things.

PG isn't used so much in Inhalers anymore not sure why, but that's my belief I think I heard this from someone on CASAA. I apologize if incorrect. Just want proper info to be used.

Also nicotine has over 7000 known chemicals not the usual 4000 most say, sorry not nit pickin.

It makes for a better conclusion if our facts are straight.

 

[Criticalmass]

Honestly, I think this is their attempt to convince themselves that they should stick to smoking more than it being about you. They probably aren't doing it on a conscious level though.

 

[john333]

Do you mean tobacco when burned has 7000 chemicals? I thought nicotine was one chemical. This was a reply to Talyon

 

[Talyon]

Do you mean tobacco when burned has 7000 chemicals? I thought nicotine was one chemical.

That's my understanding.

I could be wrong, but I've read this many times here on ECF.

I dont know if nic is one single chemical when burned or otherwise, but it is one ingredient.


The chemical formula for nicotine is C10H14N2, with a molecular mass of 162.23 . In proper nomenclature, nicotine is 3-(1-Methyl-2-pyrrolidinyl)pyridine. Nicotine's structure was deduced by Pinner (Berichte der Deutschen Chemischen Gesellschaft 29: 294).

 

[Tbaggerr]

Once it gets into the chemical compounds and their relations to outside influences, I call it quits on the research. Too far above my head.

I will however look into the pharmaceutical applications of PG that are still being used.

 

[chesty]

don't forget the food flavourings.

 

[wheezal]

don't forget the food flavourings.

bacon...bacon flavored e-juice.


if they argue with that, leave the family and move to Paraguay. there's no hope.

 

[DetraMental]

Right on wheezal

 

[zoiDman]

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While I am happy that they are concerned for my well being, I would like to see people use their brains rather than take every word being said on television as being the flat out truth with no room for further research or thought.

That Isn't the world we live in Today.

The Vast Majority put faith into the Media telling them the Informed Truth because they are basically Lazy. And the Smear Campaigns that have been waged against e-Cigarette have been better funded than those telling the Benefits.

Time will correct much of this. But time is something that e-Cigarette user's do Not have on their side.

 

[Tbaggerr]

bacon...bacon flavored e-juice.


if they argue with that, leave the family and move to Paraguay. there's no hope.

My name is OP and I approve this message!

 

[vicflo]

do what i did and just throw a bunch of these cards at them. even if they dont read them, the most they can say is "oww"

 

[skoony]

please correct me if i'm wrong.
charging a battery is a relatively easy process.
if your battery voltage i say 4.2 volts your charger should be at least 4.3 volts.
when connected positive terminal to positive terminal,and negative to negative the difference
will cause current to flow back into the battery charging it.
a trickle charger as it were.
you can increase the charger voltage to decrease the charging time.
there is a limit to this increase for safety reasons of which I've forgotten.
so lets say 4.5 volts for arguments sake.
with a regulated charger when it senses the battery reaches 4.2 volts it should shut off.
(this circiut is built into lithium based batts)
with an unregulated charger when the charger voltage and battery voltage equalizes
current flow should stop as there's no potential difference to allow current flow.
nickel based batteries on the other hand will over heat if the charging voltage is too high
as the battery cant reach the charging voltage.
in any case if the battery voltage ever reaches the charging voltage there should be no current
flow.

three things can affect this.
defective battery.
defective charger.
un-safe usage.mostly caused by heat.
any electrical circuit will go into thermal run-away if over heated.
causing more current flow and finally short out and or burn up.
that's why proper design is in-portent to making batteries to account for its charging characteristics.

most of these battery failures were from diy devices and were not properly ventilated while charging
causing heat build up that altered the circuit.some diy'ers like to use the nickle base batts because they
can overcharge them and get a longer lasting battery life.
you have to know what your doing though.

regards
mike

 

[Beckyjc]

There was a story in the bbc about some dude who's battery exploded and took out his front seat after he left it overnight charging in the car.

Clearly irresponsible, majority of bats I've bought come with warnings about overcharging.

Also, I don't have a car but once the engine is off and the key is removed from the ignition, surely the electronics are switched off? The media love to scaremonger.

As for daft relatives, roll your eyes and tell people "I can do my own research kthx".

 

[RosaJ]

How about if you send them a message saying: "I want to thank all of you for making me see the light. You'll all be proud to know that I am back to smoking 2 packs of cigarettes a day! THANK YOU!!!"

I wonder if that will stop them harassing you.

 

[Anjaffm]

Hahahahaha! Well said, RosaJ!

 

[Cavediver]

There was a story in the bbc about some dude who's battery exploded and took out his front seat after he left it overnight charging in the car.

Clearly irresponsible, majority of bats I've bought come with warnings about overcharging.

Also, I don't have a car but once the engine is off and the key is removed from the ignition, surely the electronics are switched off? The media love to scaremonger.

As for daft relatives, roll your eyes and tell people "I can do my own research kthx".

Not always; it depends on the manufacturer. Even when the key is out, our Ford has powered accessory sockets (the PC term for lighter plug ) Our Toyota, however, shuts everything off except for the interior lights.

 

[DaveP]

Ty for sharing OP, just wanted to straighten a couple of things.

PG isn't used so much in Inhalers anymore not sure why, but that's my belief I think I heard this from someone on CASAA. I apologize if incorrect. Just want proper info to be used.

Also nicotine has over 7000 known chemicals not the usual 4000 most say, sorry not nit pickin.

It makes for a better conclusion if our facts are straight.

You meant tobacco, didn't you? Nicotine is a standalone molecule.
Nicotine Molecule

You are right about the 7000 chemicals in tobacco smoke. Several hundred are toxic.
http://www.cdc.gov/tobacco/data_statistics/sgr/2010/consumer_booklet/chemicals_smoke/index.htm

And, you are right about getting the correct facts out to those who need to know. Too many news sources are getting twisted information about ecigs.