I'm thinkin' maybe we should try this again? . . . . and you kids should behave yourselves

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No SAD reason. No need for cash. And I certainly love the Sumpin. It is more than I ever wanted or expected.

My reasons lay elsewhere and are beautiful. I'm am so pleased this amazing creation has gone to a wonderful member who will appreciate as much, if not more, than I.
 

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No SAD reason. No need for cash. And I certainly love the Sumpin. It is more than I ever wanted or expected.

My reasons lay elsewhere and are beautiful. I'm am so pleased this amazing creation has gone to a wonderful member who will appreciate as much, if not more, than I.

tanks then..You want more tanks?!?..I'm messin' with ya brotha..bwahaha
I know ya got a big heart..I thought it was a marvelous thing giving someone a "no waiting list" chance! Kudos my friend! :thumbs:
 

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so the mechanics of this.. Positive battery is always hooked live, ground is always touching batter ground, you depress the button and rather then connecting to battery ground it connects to atomizer ground so the "spark" if there was one would happen at the atty not the battery. Is this an accurate account? Also if you put the battery in opposite way the same would happen except maybe a little shocking ;)

So it's an interesting concept my questions would be, how easy would it be to apply pressure and get that strip out of shape causing it to auto fire?


Well, I won't go too far into "how it works", as it's not very popular with folks, it seems. But I will say that, with ALL mods one leg of the circuit is "always hooked live" (depends on which way you put the battery in, as to whether you call it + or- ). With all mech mods, there's a single point in the other leg where something isn't touching, and you make it touch. I moved that point ~1/2" away from the actual battery to create a better make/break contact point; but in every other sense, same diff. The last bit of the circuit's neg leg usually runs to the body of the 510 connector (just under the atty). In this case, it seats on the top of the 510 and contacts the base of the atty. Again for safety/practical purposes, same diff. For efficient, hard hitting electrical contact, better.

Let's separate a couple things in discussing the switch, please (everyone). I won't go too far into defending it, but I'll set you all straight on a couple things regardless.

1) Aesthetics: you don't like it, fine. (however, the other three points lead me to want to alter/add refine rather than delete)

2) Efficiency/Electical Value: This is the best switch I've ever used. Hands down. Nothing to discuss. The mod hits HARD! Yet to prove out; but the silver/silver contact will probably stay clean and stay hitting hard longer than any other mech contact out there.

3) Comfort: Same as any other top-fire mech button. Same action, same range of pressure required. Because of it's height, in relation to distance from edge of mod top, you never touch the edges. Any comfort niggles can be resolved by minor tweaks.

4) "Safety": It's the same as any other button. The only thing that's going to fire it is the same amount of downward pressure as required with any other top mounted mech switch. I'm using it here, kids. I'm testing it. I'm inventing/testing stupid scenarios. It LOOKS different; it doesn't ACT different. Snagging: yes, if you're in the habit of laterally dragging the top of your mod through . . . . . . . . what? a vat of loose yarn? Again the height of the switch in relation to it's distance from the edge makes it almost impossible to "snag" anything. IT'S NOT GOING TO SNAG OR AUTOFIRE BECAUSE THE PICTURES MAKE YOU IMAGINE IT WILL. Yes, tho, it's more likely to autofire if you pack it in a bag full of loose nickels and bits of nails and wire. Maybe avoid doing that.

Long→short. I'm not going to present something to you that isn't reasonable, reliable, and doesn't act like you'd expect "a good one" to act like. Looking at pictures can be misleading. HOWEVER, the aesthetic appeal (or lack thereof) is duly noted, and I'll mess around with some ideas I've got for blending this dynamic with more of a traditional/finished look (as I have time, secondary to finishing run#9). Meantime, I think I'm going to distribute the first handful (the "early adopters' " run) pretty much as is, so that folks can actually USE the switch, and test out it's physical, electrical, comfort characteristics. It can be so easily replaced as new versions develop. IF the switch proves out (in the hands of others), THEN we'll tackle the aesthetic front.
 
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And no, it's not going to bend into the contact and stay bent. I've assessed (in a number of scenarios now) that spring tempered, or even mildly hardened, metal never bends (and stays) as far as you push it. It always springs back some. IT NEEDS TO BE BENT FARTHER TO END UP AT A GIVEN POINT. so, if it touches something that stops it bending BEYOND that point, it'll never stay there when you let go. (spring tempered metal, like this BeCu, springs back even more . . .. all the way back)
 
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you mean, "this"?

Maybe I'm weird, but personally I love this design, including the switch. Kinda reminds me of a flint-lock.

Without seeing under the hood I would have to guess that things are also more electrically efficient there as well?

Did you make extras? I'd like one just like it. :)
 

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Maybe I'm weird, but personally I love this design, including the switch. Kinda reminds me of a flint-lock.

Without seeing under the hood I would have to guess that things are also more electrically efficient there as well?

Did you make extras? I'd like one just like it. :)

I gotta agree I love it too, I'm not saying it's better than the sumpin or choosing one over the other would be anything other than a nightmare decision but as I said before it just looks so right!




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There is no doubt in my mind that the new switch is much more efficient and hard hitting than the older plunger type. After thinking about this for a day now I'm convinced that there are ways of improving its looks yet keeping things simple and easy to assemble. There's pretty much no problem that can't be solved with some good old head scratching.

Like anything new the switch needs to be tested over time and from my meager experience I know that when you get to use something day in day out you get ideas on how to improve it. Let's give this some time and think about it and I'm sure it can be improved to something which also has an aesthetic appeal
 

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No SAD reason. No need for cash. And I certainly love the Sumpin. It is more than I ever wanted or expected.

My reasons lay elsewhere and are beautiful. I'm am so pleased this amazing creation has gone to a wonderful member who will appreciate as much, if not more, than I.
I am happy to read this, and thanks for the kind thought. I am tickled and thoroughly going to appreciate it and care for it. You better believe it.
Oh and instead of "The Oliver", I am going to call him "The Artful Dodger":D
 

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I think it's fair to also admit that it grows on you

that it does

i'm wondering if it would hold up to abuse. if they ever have a geneva convention on the rights of the mod i am gone. i need to look into woods that hold up to abuse in general [apparently "hard" is not always good, since "glass is hard"]

i reckon i could hoople it
 

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In some things aesthetics are not as important as functionality, reliability, and longevity.;)

And HARD HITTING!:p
No no no no no.....I NEED AESTHETICS.... That's a major part of the appeal for me when choosing a mod...atty...sneakers...jeans...The entire package must rock my socks! :banana:
 

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How hard would it be to give the switch a little lower profile? Same switch but closer to the top of the mod. Same throw, just a little shorter heightwise. You have that post sticking out of the top. What if it were a little shorter?

Just throwing out an idea. I could be wrong but I think the spring back would be the same either way since it's more determined by the length rather than the height.

I have more ideas but thought I would throw a feeler out there and see how hard I get shot down.
 

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I'm sure after a while the "looks" aren't as important to yourself and you'd prioritize functionality over everything else. Unfortunately, it just makes the dibi mod look less amazing.

This may or may not effect someone that much. I know when my number comes up I'll definitely want to show this device off as much as possible. It just doesn't look like the button compliments the rest of the device...yet.

I'm fully confident the bee will make everyone happy
 

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And HARD HITTING!:p

that's what i'm on the list for

i'm not tech minded enough to understand why voltage drop tests aren't always the best measure, but it has come up before discussion dibi vs reo

still, i'd like to see fresh off the bat v1 vs v2 tests
 

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No no no no no.....I NEED AESTHETICS.... That's a major part of the appeal for me when choosing a mod...atty...sneakers...jeans...The entire package must rock my socks! :banana:
umm . .. . yeah. that wasn't about mods . .. . . (although, even there . . . .)
 

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The more I think about the new switch the more I like it honestly. One of Peters creations in my hands would be handled with care and likely not be stuffed in a pocket like my daily beaters anyway. I find the switch pleasing to the eye myself[emoji6] If I have one niggle it would be I really miss the contrast of the metal section on the sumpin but with that being said.....ones choice of wood will drastically change the looks of this mod.

My 2c. I see these mods as functional art pieces rather than daily workhorses anyways...... even though they are built well enough to be both[emoji4]
 
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