I'm thinkin' maybe we should try this again? . . . . and you kids should behave yourselves

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opening the other side air with the coil on one side helps to remove the stagnant pocket that would otherwise exist opposite the coil, this reduces harshness but also dilutes the vape somewhat. can be overcome by running the coil really high power but the way I show is more efficient, your getting everything from the coil and nothing that is not from the coil itself.

filling the stagnant pocket with a chamber reducer is another way to go but here it's not necessary
 

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congrats on the new mod and yeah, when it comes to accidents it's always the other guys fault even when it ain't the other guys fault and everyone tries to spin the story around to their favor. I own a body shop and man I'd say that according to my customers more than 90% of the time it's always the other guys fault :lol:

popping in here to say first, I kinda like the new switch, maybe not in love with it as is yet but I see a lot of potential there. I think I would try to figure out a way though to positively lock it into the right orientation, like a notch or something, otherwise I see it turning sideways a bit to easy if only the atty is gholding it's clocked position. also just wanted to share that I've figured out a way to run a single coil in a nuppin and get just as good flavor as you would get with duals.

the reason why duals taste better is because of the chamber volume, it's not a tiny chamber like a chalice so a single coil winds up with too much dead air space in the chamber which dilutes/diminishes the flavor. one way is to use a chamber spacer, basically reducing the chamber volume, but this can be a pita in more ways than one. I found a better way to run a single without having the negative drawback of a large chamber and it vapes awesome even with a single like this

normally you would position the coil as close to the air inlet as practical, this is universally true of most any atty, but here with the nuppin what you can also do is, instead of positioning a single coil to one air inlet and keeping the other closed as you would normally think, what you can do instead is position the coil right at the drip tip inlet and leave both air inlets open. this completely negates the excess space in the chamber because the after coil airflow will never see it, the airflow from the coil is directly into the driptip with no turbulence of stagnant pockets between the coil and the driptip that a larger chamber normally creates. all of the extra volume in the chamber winds up being pre coil instead of post coil as it would be had you positioned the coil at the air inlet.

a little tricky and boring to try to explain all the physics involved but man you gotta try this... single coil tastes as sweet as it would in a chalice like this, you are pretty much removing the bulk of the chamber from the equation. I first stumbled onto this type of coil positioning with my chalice 2, it has a central coil mount and it is far from the air inlet which winds up adding a bit of throat hit and harshness even though the chamber is still pretty tiny, what I did was drill another air hole opposite the original, bringing air to both sides of the center coil which is right below the driptip and woh, totally different animal man. to date my best vape out of all my vapes has been this modded chalice 2 with dual air inlets to one central coil, but now, like this, the nuppin is right up there with that chalice. you gotta try this mang :)

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May have to rethink the Nuppin now..I vape single flavor coils as well..Very tight parallel build brotha! :thumbs:
 

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Whoa... Turbo, that's genius!!! I just tried it and I LOVE it!!!

congrats on the new mod and yeah, when it comes to accidents it's always the other guys fault even when it ain't the other guys fault and everyone tries to spin the story around to their favor. I own a body shop and man I'd say that according to my customers more than 90% of the time it's always the other guys fault :lol:

popping in here to say first, I kinda like the new switch, maybe not in love with it as is yet but I see a lot of potential there. I think I would try to figure out a way though to positively lock it into the right orientation, like a notch or something, otherwise I see it turning sideways a bit to easy if only the atty is gholding it's clocked position. also just wanted to share that I've figured out a way to run a single coil in a nuppin and get just as good flavor as you would get with duals.

the reason why duals taste better is because of the chamber volume, it's not a tiny chamber like a chalice so a single coil winds up with too much dead air space in the chamber which dilutes/diminishes the flavor. one way is to use a chamber spacer, basically reducing the chamber volume, but this can be a pita in more ways than one. I found a better way to run a single without having the negative drawback of a large chamber and it vapes awesome even with a single like this

normally you would position the coil as close to the air inlet as practical, this is universally true of most any atty, but here with the nuppin what you can also do is, instead of positioning a single coil to one air inlet and keeping the other closed as you would normally think, what you can do instead is position the coil right at the drip tip inlet and leave both air inlets open. this completely negates the excess space in the chamber because the after coil airflow will never see it, the airflow from the coil is directly into the driptip with no turbulence of stagnant pockets between the coil and the driptip that a larger chamber normally creates. all of the extra volume in the chamber winds up being pre coil instead of post coil as it would be had you positioned the coil at the air inlet.

a little tricky and boring to try to explain all the physics involved but man you gotta try this... single coil tastes as sweet as it would in a chalice like this, you are pretty much removing the bulk of the chamber from the equation. I first stumbled onto this type of coil positioning with my chalice 2, it has a central coil mount and it is far from the air inlet which winds up adding a bit of throat hit and harshness even though the chamber is still pretty tiny, what I did was drill another air hole opposite the original, bringing air to both sides of the center coil which is right below the driptip and woh, totally different animal man. to date my best vape out of all my vapes has been this modded chalice 2 with dual air inlets to one central coil, but now, like this, the nuppin is right up there with that chalice. you gotta try this mang :)

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yeah, I've done a lot of experimenting with coil position and chamber size for a long time with a lot of different atties, even made adjustable chamber atties to learn and experiment. from all of my playing and everything I've learned so far this right here is the ticket man, totally killin it. in my opinion and from my experience so far, I don't think you can get a better vape from a single coil than this right here, bar none. I'd love to hear what others think if they try this


now I'm a little sorry that I only have 5 or 6 nuppins :( if this thing had a screw on cap I could honestly say that I would be perfectly happy with nothing but nuppins, the only thing that keeps the chalice right there edging it out slightly for me is the screw on cap
 

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you gotta try this :)

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Ok....So there I was minding my own business and here comes this post....I tried it...It is a bit more throat hit and it changed the flavor profile of one of my ADV's. Not in a bad way but it changed it to a sweeter flavor. Very similar to what a Chalice did after starting with a RM2. The awesome thing about the Nuppin is you can add more or less air to find your sweet spot. This is a keeper for sure.....nice find and great post turbo

Only drawback is I need to be careful on what drip tip I use.

twisted 26ga 5 wraps on 2.5mm .4ohm
 

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I agree about nuppins... I LOVE nuppins:). And it's even better on a dibi... I LOVE dibis :).

I agree with RattlerX, it makes your juice more sweet, bit more noticeable. There's other differences, but very subtle, it's just better:). I wasn't complaining at all about my nuppin before, it was quite an improvement over the Cyclone, which was quite an improvement over the RM2, and I would say that hands down it's my favorite atomizer.

Your idea of the coil positioned over the center pin changes the vape. What a great idea! And even more great because who would think of moving the coil back over the screw you just screwed down? I'm glad you tried it:)!

A screwed in nuppin!!! I third that idea:)!!!

yeah, I've done a lot of experimenting with coil position and chamber size for a long time with a lot of different atties, even made adjustable chamber atties to learn and experiment. from all of my playing and everything I've learned so far this right here is the ticket man, totally killin it. in my opinion and from my experience so far, I don't think you can get a better vape from a single coil than this right here, bar none. I'd love to hear what others think if they try this


now I'm a little sorry that I only have 5 or 6 nuppins :( if this thing had a screw on cap I could honestly say that I would be perfectly happy with nothing but nuppins, the only thing that keeps the chalice right there edging it out slightly for me is the screw on cap
 

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Ok....So there I was minding my own business and here comes this post....I tried it...It is a bit more throat hit and it changed the flavor profile of one of my ADV's. Not in a bad way but it changed it to a sweeter flavor. Very similar to what a Chalice did after starting with a RM2. The awesome thing about the Nuppin is you can add more or less air to find your sweet spot. This is a keeper for sure.....nice find and great post turbo

Only drawback is I need to be careful on what drip tip I use.

twisted 26ga 5 wraps on 2.5mm .4ohm


you still have to play with the coil position, a few mm's up or down can make a big difference and whether it's dead or off center, also the driptip can make a big difference, both bore size and depth. ideal may be a driptip with a slight bell mouth at it's opening like the chimney in a flavor tank. different tips will vape different with a setup like this I think, I haven't had a chance to play with driptips yet
 

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While going to a screw on cap may appeal to some it would reduce an built in advantage that the current model nuppin has with being able to adjust chamber size a tad by raising or lowering the cap a bit. Dunno how many are doing it ( I have 4 v1s so don't have the lowering option) but it's something to consider. Also I have to say I've never had a nuppin leak around the base, oversquonk a bit and leak a tad from air holes of course cause my fat fingers sometime forget a full bottle doesn't have to be Squonked as hard but never around the base, also I don't have the ring randomly turning on me and closing off holes, so why the screw on cap? I also have 3 chalice 3's and while they have been seeing a lot of since I got them it has more to do with the tiny chamber size and for me nothing to do with it being a screw on top. Before the nuppin my favorite atty was a 2013 cyclone which also had a pressure fit cap so maybe I'm just missing something.
 

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While going to a screw on cap may appeal to some it would reduce an built in advantage that the current model nuppin has with being able to adjust chamber size a tad by raising or lowering the cap a bit. Dunno how many are doing it ( I have 4 v1s so don't have the lowering option) but it's something to consider. Also I have to say I've never had a nuppin leak around the base, oversquonk a bit and leak a tad from air holes of course cause my fat fingers sometime forget a full bottle doesn't have to be Squonked as hard but never around the base, also I don't have the ring randomly turning on me and closing off holes, so why the screw on cap? I also have 3 chalice 3's and while they have been seeing a lot of since I got them it has more to do with the tiny chamber size and for me nothing to do with it being a screw on top. Before the nuppin my favorite atty was a 2013 cyclone which also had a pressure fit cap so maybe I'm just missing something.

I'm curious why anyone else would be interested in the screw on top, but my reason is because while it fits the dibi perfectly, most other mods don't have a flush to the base cup, so only catches the top ring of the nuppin. This means it's still a great vape, but will easily pop off. The threading would just catch at the top and hold it on.

Otherwise, I like the pop off top, but I have V1 and V2 already, as a lot of us do, so having a V3 with a screw on would give me more options on other mods:).
 
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