I'm tired of people acting like they drip 18mg
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I definitely agree about the harshness. I found the subtank MORE harsh than the RDA at .3. Believe it or not. I thought it had something to do with residual flavor from previous juice hanging on the coil or something so I got a new coil from a local vape shop. Still harsh. To this day I wonder why that was.
Honestly, that was my first time trying out "sub-ohm" in late 2014. I have always smoked mouth to lung and never thought about taking lung hits. Lung hits are not satisfying to me personally. I smoked those American Spirit black packs. Everyone said those were really harsh but they were smooth for me. I just remember the sub tank being REALLY harsh at .5ohm @20+ watts on the kbox. This was a different harsh compared to my brother-in-laws dripper on a snow wolf at 85-100watts. I was able to inhale that easier than the sub tank from 2014.
Anyone vaping on a subtank on this thread?
Anyone vaping on a subtank on this thread?
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Yes, im using a subtank as we speak, RBA .5ohm kanthal at 12mg 70/30..........and in reference to the OP, I do on occasion vape close to or at 18mg with a dual coil build at .2ohms...........on occasion....not long,and not hard..just when I need a fix, not unlike someone taking a shot of tequila and then resuming the beer
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As B2L stated, members have to have a certain number of posts before they can post links. The link to the article in question, is already being discussed here: Harvard Eliquid Study Today
And here: Reliable Harvard Scientists Say E-Cig Flavors Can Cause "Popcorn Lung"
And I found a few more threads. I have been remiss in trying to keep them all in one place
As B2L stated, members have to have a certain number of posts before they can post links. The link to the article in question, is already being discussed here: Harvard Eliquid Study Today
And here: Reliable Harvard Scientists Say E-Cig Flavors Can Cause "Popcorn Lung"
And I found a few more threads. I have been remiss in trying to keep them all in one place
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@BackDoc I knew someone using a sub-ohm sub-tank at 18mg would post I was a very heavy smoker when I was in highschool. Summer time living on the beach, I would smoke 4 packs easily per day. I remember when my mom caught me and forced me to chain smoke 3 packs at the kitchen table with her. When I was finished, I asked her for some cash and went and bought more. I remember a friend of mine that smoked a little less than a pack a day tried to keep with us once. A few hours later he was on the floor in the bathroom wishing he were dead.... When I first started vaping in 2008, I was smoking about 2 packs a day. Usually chain smoking during breaks at work, then chain smoking at home. I remember using 18mg juice from eliquid planet dripping on a 510 3ohm @ 6 volts. If I were to chain vape that, it would put me in the hospital... no doubt in my mind. If the op smoked less than 10 cigarettes per week, then took up chain vaping 18mg juice in a sub tank 1.2ohm at 20watts.......... I just don't see how that is possible. Thinking about this in detail, there would be no way that I would be able to vape through that and get used to it. I would be puking my brains out and od'n on the nicotine.
I was a very heavy smoker when I was in highschool. Summer time living on the beach, I would smoke 4 packs easily per day. I remember when my mom caught me and forced me to chain smoke 3 packs at the kitchen table with her. When I was finished, I asked her for some cash and went and bought more. I remember a friend of mine that smoked a little less than a pack a day tried to keep with us once. A few hours later he was on the floor in the bathroom wishing he were dead.... When I first started vaping in 2008, I was smoking about 2 packs a day. Usually chain smoking during breaks at work, then chain smoking at home. I remember using 18mg juice from eliquid planet dripping on a 510 3ohm @ 6 volts. If I were to chain vape that, it would put me in the hospital... no doubt in my mind. If the op smoked less than 10 cigarettes per week, then took up chain vaping 18mg juice in a sub tank 1.2ohm at 20watts.......... I just don't see how that is possible. Thinking about this in detail, there would be no way that I would be able to vape through that and get used to it. I would be puking my brains out and od'n on the nicotine.
As B2L stated, members have to have a certain number of posts before they can post links. The link to the article in question, is already being discussed here: Harvard Eliquid Study Today
And here: Reliable Harvard Scientists Say E-Cig Flavors Can Cause "Popcorn Lung"
And I found a few more threads. I have been remiss in trying to keep them all in one place
You have a thankless job, hope they're paying you a bunch
Got a raise last year. Went from $0.00 to $0.00 Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!You have a thankless job, hope they're paying you a bunch
Xer, I know what you mean, im 54 years old , started smoking in graduate school at 23, pack a day of reds until I started vaping in 2009, my first month I remember coughing as my body adapted(on an EGO), fast forward to this past year I swore that sub ohm ( tried a friends and about choked to death)was only for unemployed poser hipsters...then I made the mistake and bought a subtank,then another......then a dripper, then another....personally ,I like the diversity in vaping, I still enjoy my SigZ with a cartotank on a daily basis......depends upon my mood and desired effect
and bought a subtank,then another......then a dripper, then another....personally ,I like the diversity in vaping, I still enjoy my SigZ with a cartotank on a daily basis......depends upon my mood and desired effectI appreciate your experience here but just to remind this thread: I'm/was 366lbs and 6'4 at the time that I was vaping. I think my tolerance for 18mg initially was much higher for my massive size. I also stated that initially I had stomach issues and rapid heartbeat. Perhaps that's about as bad as it gets at that level for a person my size. There's no way to know at this point.@BackDoc I knew someone using a sub-ohm sub-tank at 18mg would post
Enjoying 18mg river bottom net at 0.9 ohm and 20watts with my trusty sub-tank for the last hour while catching up on some threads at ECF. Just tested my O2 sat and it is 98%. Looks like all is well from this individual data point's perspective.
The difference between 18mg at .9 ohm and 18mg at .3 is the same difference that a hill is to a mountain.
If I find out I am checking out soon I wouldn't be posting a PSA about vaping, unless my lawyer said it was a good idea.
The vast majority of people who vape (in the world) are NOT on this forum. They are not on any vaping forums.
So you really can't claim what you are claiming about anybody being a single data point.
Data points don't fall out of existence simply because YOU are not aware of them.
Ahhhhh..... The Silent Epidemic Card is thrown. There are aThe vast majority of people who vape (in the world) are NOT on this forum. They are not on any vaping forums.
So you really can't claim what you are claiming about anybody being a single data point.
Data points don't fall out of existence simply because YOU are not aware of them.
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Everyone, taken alone, *IS* a single data point. What part of single data point do you fail to accept?The vast majority of people who vape (in the world) are NOT on this forum. They are not on any vaping forums.
So you really can't claim what you are claiming about anybody being a single data point.
Data points don't fall out of existence simply because YOU are not aware of them.
Without evidence that a statistically meaningful number of other people are suffering the same problems he has, he is, by definition, a single data point. A rare outlyer, until evidence indicates otherwise. Regardless of what caused his illness, he cannot, based solely on his own experience, suggest anything related to the fate of others. Yet that is what he is doing. And he is quite insistent on doing that.
I never said he was alone in the world. I did suggest that he appears to be alone on this forum of 235,000 members, and that is a lot of data points. I have made no assertions or estimates of how many other cases are similar to his. Only that we have not seen any other similar cases reported here. Or elsewhere. And without evidence of a meaningful number of similar cases, he cannot factual assert that his experience could apply to others in any general way, as he insists on doing.
I'm not sure why you are working so hard to obfuscate such a simple concept as a single data point. Or why you are trying to misrepresent what I've said in this thread.
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