Crazy how much has changed in 6 years

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YoursTruli

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I always liked what Brian Setzer said (paraphase): "As long as you can wear a suit in front of a judge and he can't see anything [tattoos], you're OK." To me, the coolest tattoos were the ones you couldn't see but occasionally were allowed to find.

I agree :) He is pretty much covered in tattoos from the chest down, his arms and legs, as is his wife. He has been smart about it though and won't get one in areas he calls job killers. Some of his best friends are tattoo artist plus my daughter, who is also covered in tattoos (as is her spouse), works part time at a tattoo/piercing/gauging shop so, no, I don't dislike or judge people with tattoos or piercings or gauges LOL
 
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I like coming here because my children and grandkids always try and make me feel old.

But when I come here covered in tattoo's and chucking cloudz from a box mod I'm a "kid".

I'll take what I can get these days.

One thing that does make me curious though. Here any type of retail is handled by younger people. I gather for most of ya all retail is handled by older people and only vape shops hire younger people?? That seems odd to me.
You can hang with me any time, grandpa.

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I agree :) He is pretty much covered in tattoos from the chest down, his arms and legs, as is his wife. He has been smart about it though and won't get one in areas he calls job killers. Some of his best friends are tattoo artist plus my daughter, who is also covered in tattoos (as is her spouse), works part time at a tattoo/piercing/gauging shop so, no, I don't dislike or judge people with tattoos or piercings or gauges LOL
I am the same.

I have lots of tattoos as does my wife and we are both executives.

I always have to wear an undershirt under my dress shirts and the tats can be a pain if I travel to work conferences (don't usually hit the beach or pool), but beyond that, I don't care.

I do hate seeing smart kids get tattoos on their necks, hands, etc. though. Those "job killer" tats are doing to lose more jobs than they win with prospective employers IME. We have a friend who owns a very successful tattoo studio and he refuses to do neck, face and hand tattoos unless he knows the person well.
 
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So I can vape less than 100mg/ml and still be satisfied.

Next question.

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Alrighty, ya got a problem if 12-18mg doesn't satisfy you at 30w... it satisfied just-about 95% of us back when we were all using mechs at full battery charge. ALL of ECF had no issue w/mechs at 30-35w with 12-18mg juice, in-fact, most of us were using 6 to 9mg juice w/our mechs at 30-35 watts... Anything ABOVE 35w is for chasing aesthetic clouds, in my opinion, and if you think you need above 40w with anything more than 6-9mg liquid, your getting more nic than u were with cigs, no doubt about it... shoot. to each their own i suppose.
 

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Alrighty, ya got a problem if 12-18mg doesn't satisfy you at 30w... it satisfied just-about 95% of us back when we were all using mechs at full battery charge. ALL of ECF had no issue w/mechs at 30-35w with 12-18mg juice, in-fact, most of us were using 6 to 9mg juice w/our mechs at 30-35 watts... Anything ABOVE 35w is for chasing aesthetic clouds, in my opinion, and if you think you need above 40w with anything more than 6-9mg liquid, your getting more nic than u were with cigs, no doubt about it... shoot. to each their own i suppose.
Ummm...

I used to wear several stage one patches while chewing nicorette and smoking sometimes more than 4 pad.

I Vape 50mg @ 80 watts.

I'm not you, them, they or us by a long stretch.

What works for me might just send you to the emergency room.

It's what works to keep me stress free, off the cigs and not constantly chain vaping.

The judgemental, holier than thou, blow your face off, only children vape high watt, quitting cigs isn't the same as high wattage, etc. rhetoric around here is embarrassing, redundant beyond belief ridiculous, incorrect garbage.

If for no other reason, simply because it lumps me into a group I'll never fit into.

Let alone how grossly ignorantly insulting it is to a large group of members who don't have the nerve to speak up.

A little tact would go a long ways to eliminate the judgemental rhetoric aimed at what those spouting it are a full 180 from the slightest understanding (by choice).

That energy could be used for good instead of dividing us. The deeming is coming and it's disgusting where our energy as a group is spent chastising and dividing instead of empowering and gathering troops.

But hey I HAVE MY STOCKPILE so you do what you want.

ETA; ALSO...

I see a massive misunderstanding in your assumptions.

You didn't ask if I chain vape. You didn't consider that I might prefer to vape less often or might have to. You assumed that my smoking habits had a parallel that would indicate how much nic I'd need when vaping. You assumed I care what my vape looks like.

And so on and so on...

You judged me based on NEARLY No information.

And ALL your assumptions are wrong. No exceptions.

A common mistake around here. That nobody seems to learn from...

Hence the prior misunderstanding between two members earlier in this thread.

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i dont think so. i dont think i judged u much at all. even if i did, i can't remember. i probably did attempt to say that... most of us were happy w/ a fresh battery and 12-18mg though, i was. if you chain-smoked with a patch and nicorette parked in ur lip, then by all means, enjoy 50mg at 80w man.
 
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Alrighty, ya got a problem if 12-18mg doesn't satisfy you at 30w... it satisfied just-about 95% of us back when we were all using mechs at full battery charge.
i dont think so. i dont think i judged u much at all. even if i did, i can't remember. i probably did attempt to say that... most of us were happy w/ a fresh battery and 12-18mg though, i was.
Cue the stereotypical old crotchety grandpa voice-over:
"Hmmmpph! Back in my day, that was all we had, and we had to make do with it. You dang kids with all your whiz-bang techno-gadgets have no appreciation for what it was like in the Good Old Days. It's wrong what you're doin' - just wrong, I tells 'ya."
 

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i feel like we're old folks complaining about the new generations, but, it's true... The whole scene has evolved in such a ridiculous fashion... why do you need more than 40w? why?? lol.



Alrighty, ya got a problem if 12-18mg doesn't satisfy you at 30w...

Anything ABOVE 35w is for chasing aesthetic clouds, in my opinion, and if you think you need above 40w with anything more than 6-9mg liquid, your getting more nic than u were with cigs, no doubt about it... shoot.



i dont think so. i dont think i judged u much at all.

:blink:

Okay... if you say so.

BTW; Dr. Farsalinos did monitor blood cotinine levels in one of his studies. His findings and the article by Rolygate that outlines efficacy of vaping vs. smoking coupled with the fact that consumption and frequency is blatantly missing from your assumption flies in the face of said assumption.

I assure you there's a very good chance I'm getting the same or lower blood cotinine levels than I did when smoking.

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I just calculated what I've saved by not smoking. At the average per pack cost of $6, I've saved almost $20k since I quit my 2 pack a day tobacco habit 5 1/2 years ago.

What Does A Pack Of Cigarettes Cost In Each State Now?

Live in the rural burbs but that seems high even for loose pack prices in my state. Also surprised to see Georgia at #35, if it was just based on taxes we would be about #47.

But yes, my almost 15 grand plus my wife's 10 adds up to a chunk of changed saved in 6 1/2 years! Too bad we spent it on other things and don't have it in the bank:(
 
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@Hyperspace I think if they phased out the 510 people would simply freak out.I have a feeling there would be such a backlash the companies would re-consider...for example I/we had heard INNOKIN was comming out with the disruptor TC that could do TC with Kanthal...but in order to get a consistent enough reading from Kanthal for TC they had invented/designed a new connector.people waited and waited pics were teased...then the cortex was released with no Kanthal tc and a 510.so who knows.I agree the 510 is kind of wimpy,but its here.

PS did the forum change its format or did I mess up my computer...again:)
 

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Sometime in late 07' or early 08' I ordered a DSE which came to be called a Kr808 thereafter, the second day I grabbed the half smoked analog from the tray, lit it and instantly was a no go ever again.

Vaping is still the same, the devices have changed but accomplish the same thing. Just the industry has gone towards what people pay for. Good or not so good.

I can still grab an old 510 battery, metal drip tip from 2008-9 era, drip or fill a carto and honestly, it continues to be the very best stealth vape available.
 
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@Hyperspace I think if they phased out the 510 people would simply freak out.I have a feeling there would be such a backlash the companies would re-consider...for example I/we had heard INNOKIN was comming out with the disruptor TC that could do TC with Kanthal...but in order to get a consistent enough reading from Kanthal for TC they had invented/designed a new connector.people waited and waited pics were teased...then the cortex was released with no Kanthal tc and a 510.so who knows.I agree the 510 is kind of wimpy,but its here.

PS did the forum change its format or did I mess up my computer...again:)

I don't know if they would freak out or not. Provape users have embraced the P3 connector. Provape users with 510 tanks just use a P3 to 510 adapter.
 

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I don't know if they would freak out or not. Provape users have embraced the P3 connector. Provape users with 510 tanks just use a P3 to 510 adapter.

At its high water mark the P3 had three tanks and is now down to two.

All 3 are the lowest power tanks sold. One is a tank known for internal connectivity problems of its own.

Meanwhile people are using the 510 on 200w modz with no complaints whatsoever. I'm not sure if they actually go 200w but 100 for sure.

The P3 is an answer to a question nobody asked.
 

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At its high water mark the P3 had three tanks and is now down to two.

All 3 are the lowest power tanks sold. One is a tank known for internal connectivity problems of its own.

Meanwhile people are using the 510 on 200w modz with no complaints whatsoever. I'm not sure if they actually go 200w but 100 for sure.

The P3 is an answer to a question nobody asked.

We were talking connections and P3 is a different connection. I've dropped mods before and the 510 connection gets bent on the tank where the P3 holds up. That's one reason why I think manufactures should move to a more robust connection. If all the manufactures got together and made a new connection there would be plenty of selections of tanks.
 

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We were talking connections and P3 is a different connection. I've dropped mods before and the 510 connection gets bent on the tank where the P3 holds up. That's one reason why I think manufactures should move to a more robust connection. If all the manufactures got together and made a new connection there would be plenty of selections of tanks.

I've heard of different connectors being better for TC so over time you may see a new TC connection and everything else will follow. This would be over years and be driven by the DNA people if they feel they are having a problem.

For the time being I don't see the 510 going anywhere. I have 4 different connectors here, Ego, Z22, P3 and 510. All have adapters to 510.

For at least 99.99% of non-TC users I bet a million internet dollars the 510 is here to stay.
 

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I've heard of different connectors being better for TC so over time you may see a new TC connection and everything else will follow. This would be over years and be driven by the DNA people if they feel they are having a problem.

For the time being I don't see the 510 going anywhere. I have 4 different connectors here, Ego, Z22, P3 and 510. All have adapters to 510.

For at least 99.99% of non-TC users I bet a million internet dollars the 510 is here to stay.

I bet the 510 is here to stay too. Most people don't like change and would rather have things remain the same. Like the Dvorak keyboard is more efficient than the QWERTY keyboard but no one wants to change.
 
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