Seriously? That's all there is to safety? Hmm, 0.1 ohm build pulls 42A. No battery is rated for that to my knowledge. Please don't vape around other people.
Im to scared to use an RDA...should i be?
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Seriously? That's all there is to safety? Hmm, 0.1 ohm build pulls 42A. No battery is rated for that to my knowledge. Please don't vape around other people.
In related news, my views have always been strongly based on Catch-22:
If you're smart enough to be afraid of batteries, you don't need to be. But, if you're not afraid of them...
Thanks for the advice all, really appreciate it as when it comes down to RDA's youtube is to...easy going about it and articles are to harsh. Time to get my hands dirty(well, dirty in terms of labour, no explosions :<)
It's great that you're worried! Well, not great, but at least you're concerned about explosions
I'm not sure about your mod, as I use mechs. RDAs are great, however. Clones are cheap, so you can collect a whole bunch. Making your own coils means you can always change it up, which changes the taste and the hit, and that's fun, too. The coils you make will last way longer than coils you buy. With regular dry burning and wick changing, they can last a month, or months, possibly.
One thing to consider: Most people find that nicotine levels that worked fine in normal tanks are too harsh in rdas. I had to reduce my nicotine level from 18% to 10, then down to 6, which is not a bad thing, at all.
Nothing beats going to a shop and having someone knowledgable throw a coil on for you. They will give you pointers and it will ease that first build anxiety. Don't skimp on batteries and you won't need to worry about blowing yourself up. I remember when using 28 gauge wire was a big deal, then 26, and now 24 gauge is my "normal gauge right around .2 ohms. Never had a battery go south on me except for an ego twist. Ironic...
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Using that vapor shark will virtually eliminate the battery dangers that you read about. Just make sure you buy good batteries for your VS- I'm sure they recommend some. The dangers really come with mechanical mods. I'd just stay clear of them, and use regulated mods. The new high wattage devices make mechanical mods a choice rather than a necessity for sub ohm builds. Don't be afraid of getting into rebuildables.
My advice:
1. Get a popular RDA or rebuildable tank (like the Lemo) that's known for being easy to build on.
2. Watch some good reviews with builds shown. I like Rip Trippers but any one of the really popular ones will work. Copy those builds until you get the hang of it and are getting good results. While you're doing that, use the steam engine calculator to get familiar with using it - for when you go out and start designing and building coils.
3. DO NOT try nickel wire for a while. START with kanthal! It's 20X easier to work with and there's a lot more information and instructional materials on kanthal. Don't mess with nickel until you're very comfortable with Kanthal.
4. Don't try to build too low ohm with that VS - it doesn't have enough power for very sub ohm. Probably .4 or .3 will be as low as you could reasonably go.
5. Stick with 26g and 28g kanthal at first - they're the easiest to build with (IMO)
Good luck! There will be a few bumps along the way but you're in for a great experience! I love rebuilding. It's definitely become a hobby rather than a habit. I'm completely off nicotine after 4 years and I vape just for flavor and cloud and the fun of coming up with new builds to try.
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My advice:
1. Get a popular RDA or rebuildable tank (like the Lemo) that's known for being easy to build on.
2. Watch some good reviews with builds shown. I like Rip Trippers but any one of the really popular ones will work. Copy those builds until you get the hang of it and are getting good results. While you're doing that, use the steam engine calculator to get familiar with using it - for when you go out and start designing and building coils.
3. DO NOT try nickel wire for a while. START with kanthal! It's 20X easier to work with and there's a lot more information and instructional materials on kanthal. Don't mess with nickel until you're very comfortable with Kanthal.
4. Don't try to build too low ohm with that VS - it doesn't have enough power for very sub ohm. Probably .4 or .3 will be as low as you could reasonably go.
5. Stick with 26g and 28g kanthal at first - they're the easiest to build with (IMO)
Good luck! There will be a few bumps along the way but you're in for a great experience! I love rebuilding. It's definitely become a hobby rather than a habit. I'm completely off nicotine after 4 years and I vape just for flavor and cloud and the fun of coming up with new builds to try.
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The best tip is to build, build, and build some more. It's great that you're starting out on a regulated mod. It'll keep you safe while learning. Read about battery safety, grab a Vaping ohms chart for power settings, and build test and try out everything.
If you get stuck take pictures. LOL someone will be able to help, always.
If you use cotton balls, unroll them first. And remember that they're just fibers, you can roll them back into a "piece". (My bf has the hardest time with the cotton, he just can't get it lol.)
And while you're looking for a Rda be sure to get one with the post holes. It really makes building nice.
If you get stuck take pictures. LOL someone will be able to help, always.
If you use cotton balls, unroll them first. And remember that they're just fibers, you can roll them back into a "piece". (My bf has the hardest time with the cotton, he just can't get it lol.)
And while you're looking for a Rda be sure to get one with the post holes. It really makes building nice.
To the OP:
1. Your VS has built in safety features. It won't fire the atty if there's a short.
2. Sony vtc5s are nearly impossible to find, but there are other good batteries made by Efest, Samsung, LG and others
3. Start with a single coil RDA. The Magma is wonderful in single coil mode. With your VS, you could build it at 1.5ohm and dial in the power and get a great vape. There's no need to push limits to be happy with it.
4. Get an ohm meter to check your build first.
5. You will be fine
1. Your VS has built in safety features
. It won't fire the atty if there's a short.2. Sony vtc5s are nearly impossible to find, but there are other good batteries made by Efest, Samsung, LG and others
3. Start with a single coil RDA. The Magma is wonderful in single coil mode. With your VS, you could build it at 1.5ohm and dial in the power and get a great vape. There's no need to push limits to be happy with it.
4. Get an ohm meter to check your build first.
5. You will be fine
An RDA is about as good as it gets. I don't know that my mech at .4 is THAT much better, but I am not concerned with clouds so I don't have as much reason to really push in that direction.
The amount of tips im getting of you guys is amazing. Thanks so much for that.
Ordered 28 & 30 gauge kanthal, organic cotton, ohm meter from a vape website, a cheap beginner RDA and bought myself some drill bits, stuffs about to get real! Now hurry up UPS guy
Ill update my wonderful coil in a week for ....s n giggles
Ordered 28 & 30 gauge kanthal, organic cotton, ohm meter from a vape website, a cheap beginner RDA and bought myself some drill bits, stuffs about to get real! Now hurry up UPS guy
Ill update my wonderful coil in a week for ....s n giggles
With the rDNA40 its really a safe device. It will only fire down to .1 ohms and won't go lower. Now to get the full advantage of the rDNA40 you should invest in some NIckel (NI200) wire. This allows you to use the best of the temperature control. A coil can last you forever basically. I only rebuild mine when I want something different. No battery will not explode if misused, the trick is to not misuse it. A sony battery can handle safely down to .14 ohms. With the rDNA40 it has built in protections to keep things from happening such as short circuit protection, reverse battery protection and low battery protection. It does take a bit of getting used to. They do make devices to help you wrap coils. I bought one on ebay that is wood and is actually extremely nice. I bought it because my hands tend to hurt holding tiny drill bits (tis the curse of giant hands!). Once you start getting the hang of how to wrap, how many wraps creates what ohms, etc, you can tinker and build different builds like twisted coils, parallel coils and things of the sort.
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Find a coupon online for Micheal's or Hobby Lobby, if there's one in your area, and go buy an Artistic Wire Gizmo coil winding tool. You'll be knocking out perfect coils from the get-go. If you do a search here for gizmo, you'll find a few threads.
with a dna device theres more safety features because of having the chip. short protection, wont fire if battery cant handle it, etc.. with a dna device you dont really need an ohm tester/meter. the main reasonw hy i started rda's is cuz of this with my dna30 device. I'm still scared of runnign rda's on mech mods though, i barely use mechmods anymore though with all the new vw/vv coming out.
On a DNA-40 chip there are a number of safety features that are built in to protect the user and rarely will a battery get over taxed because the unit is designed not to fire a coil that isn't within the amperage or resistance parameters of the chip if you have a battery failure in a device of this nature it is due to the battery being defective. Now with that said a device of this nature requires the use of a high drain battery like the Sony VTC-5 or an E-fest 35A. A RDA is going to give you flavor and amounts of vapor you have never experienced before. You can build down to a .2 coil on the DNA-40 and it won't exceed the chip parameters for resistance or continuous drain amperage but you won't really be powering the coil enough to benefit from that low of a build. .5 ohm coils would be the lowest I would go because it is a 35watt build if used on a mechanical mod at 4.2 volts so theoretically this gives you 5 watts of headroom beyond what you would get on a mechanical so it would make the coils perform better and it still isn't going to come near the 23amp limit of your chip. Once you go RDA you are never going to stop building coils it becomes an addiction. Just be prepared for the excessive juice use because it will go thru juice like a little kid on a playground in 100 degree weather. Good luck and if you are looking for a good first time builder atty that has exceptional flavor production I recommend the Paradigm Magma. If you want an easy cloud chaser atty the Mutation X version1 is a good starter and is fairly cheap.
+1 to mutation x, u can knock it down to a single coild build with 1open airhole and u still get good flavor as well. id suggest getting one with the 510 tip though, not the new wide bore v2 drip tips. cant get shat for flavor on those.
Understanding ohms law is paramount when moving over to RDA. Honestly it's not hard and there are apps and Web sites that do the math for you. Just make sure your battery safety is in check and your good. If you're super concerned go with a regulated box mod instead of mech.
You can use this as a reference for your coils if you are going to use 28 gauge wire the little blue handled screw driver that comes in the package with your atty will give you 1.3 to 1.5 ohm coil when wrapped 9-10 times on it. That is for a single coil, I use this to make new coils for Kanger Protank2 rebuilds so if you were to make a dual coil set up for your atty it would come out around .65 to .75 depending if you keep all the coils pulled tight and heat and squeeze them to ensure they heat from the inside out. There are free apps for Ohms law calculators for smartphones and tablets that you can download I highly suggest doing this it will help you ensure your builds stay battery safe. It sounds like you have purchased all the other appropriate devices for safe RDA building. Remember this too that what ever the ohm of a single coil is that when you make an identical coil and run them as duals it cuts the ohms in half, so a dual coil setup of 1.0 ohm single coils will render a 0.5 ohm setup. Best of luck stay safe and have some fun rebuilding that thing I bet a minimum of 3 builds in the first day.
i actually found it much easier with lower gauge wire when starting to build. higher gauge wire is a bit tough to wrap when ur a novice, since its so thin theyre not so forgiving, if u screw up a wrap its tough to re-wrap. i myself started off with 28 gauge and its just too springy, ordered some 24gauge after and its much easier, when u wrap it it stays and is much easier to scrunch up than higher gauge wire.
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I just used an ohms calculator and put in a resistance lower than I will most likely use and the full watts of my mod and got the reading and check it against my batteries amp limit and it comes under.
So i feel I'm good for the builds i will do.
Check the resistance of your coils.
So i feel I'm good for the builds i will do.
Check the resistance of your coils.
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