In over my head! In Canada, need help!!!!

[Vapoor eyes er]

Thank you very much. I was trying to find that data and you must have read my mind. lonnnnnnggggg post and I had seen it before but never bothered to read all of it. Thanks again cuz even though I am a Kgo believer I always want to present facts honestly.

I just happen to know that little tidbit because I was a witness to the extensive testing performed by Scottbee, our resident battery guru, on the eGos and the Rivas! He was the one who first discovered that the Rivas ran at 3.7v under load, just like Kgos. Scottbee's thread Battery Voltages-- Surprise is a great read, if you have a lot of time on your hands.

And now we have a bunch of VV eGos and eGo clones.

 

[Katya]

Anytime. That thread is pretty amazing. A chunk of ECF history. Scottbee's early discovery that eGos could only do 3.2v under load (as opposed to 3.7 v stated) ruffled a lot of feathers... Oh, those were the days.

Really? So what do like about the Kgo? I've read a lot about them, but never owned one. I only have Rivas and eGos.

 

[Vapoor eyes er]

I own both JoyTech eGo and Kgo. The Kgo definitely fires "stronger". There's also a GrimmGreen vid where he also says the Kgo gives a better vape than the JT eGo. I bought the Kgo just before it was being hyped all over ECF Nov. 2011 Rarely will you find a Kgo owner that's unhappy with it. As for quality I've distributed over 500 Kgo batts (250 kits) and the failure is less than 1%/ 4 batts.

Anytime. That thread is pretty amazing. A chunk of ECF history. Scottbee's early discovery that eGos could only do 3.2v under load (as opposed to 3.7 v stated) ruffled a lot of feathers... Oh, those were the days.

Really? So what do like about the Kgo? I've read a lot about them, but never owned one. I only have Rivas and eGos.

 

[Katya]

Good to know. Thanks Vapoor!

 

[Ang-EC]

Vapoor and Katya, thank you both. You have been a great source of information.

Is there any reason not to use eGo-C passthrough batteries? I may never use it as a passthrough but for a couple of extra dollars having a standard mini USB charger connection could be handy.

 

[Katya]

Vapoor and Katya, thank you both. You have been a great source of information.

Is there any reason not to use eGo-C passthrough batteries? I may never use it as a passthrough but for a couple of extra dollars having a standard mini USB charger connection could be handy.

You're welcome.

Not that I know of. All eGo-C are great batteries.

 

[Vapoor eyes er]

All I've got to say is^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Pass throughs are very handy PVs. Just be careful with older PC usb ports- some have damaged their pc- best to use a wall adapter OR the rear port on your pc as they are generally able to handle more.

Vapoor and Katya, thank you both. You have been a great source of information.

Is there any reason not to use eGo-C passthrough batteries? I may never use it as a passthrough but for a couple of extra dollars having a standard mini USB charger connection could be handy.

 

[Katya]

In the spirit of full disclosure, I don't use passthroughs for that ^ reason. And I always use a wall adapter to charge my batteries.

But then again, I always have at least three batteries going at a time, and several ready to go--fully charged.

 

[Ang-EC]

I have been an IT geek for 20+ years. The first step to recovery is admitting it.

USB ports will only supply about 380mA. If the charger / battery requires more than that the USB port doesn't care, it's still only going to supply 380mA. The battery will still charge just slower.
There is no technical reason it would harm a USB port.
Some older USB ports don't have the charging circuits connected, the two outer pins. They are data only, the two centre pins.

I always use wall chargers anyway. They are usually 500mA and up.

 

[Katya]

Aha! The problem is not with the USB ports, it's the batteries and the chargers that, on occasion, short, explode (well, vent) or melt. Sad and rare, but true.

Wanna see some pictures? I'm sure I can still find them...

Electronic Cigarette Battery EXPLOSION!!! - YouTube

 

[Dreaswi]

I'm not sure if this was mentioned already but I'm a bloog fan. As for getting prefilled cartomizers online can be a pain in the rear end. I'm not advocating breaking the law but if you know someone who lives in the USA you could ship to them and then have them send to you. I might have snuck cartomizer for my brother in a package of other stuff. There is less chance of customs and HC searching and denying the package. I'm going to plead the 5th ammendment.

It only takes one person to start a revolution.

 

[astounded]

I figure pleading temporary insanity due to quitting smoking should be enough to keep the courts tied up for years!

Hey Shane did you receive your order yet?

 

[Ang-EC]

Aha! The problem is not with the USB ports, it's the batteries and the chargers that, on occasion, short, explode (well, vent) or melt. Sad and rare, but true.

Wanna see some pictures? I'm sure I can still find them...

Electronic Cigarette Battery EXPLOSION!!! - YouTube

Ah yes. Cell phone and laptop batteries do that once in a while too. Any battery really.
Exciting.

 

[Vapoor eyes er]

I have been an IT geek for 20+ years. The first step to recovery is admitting it.

USB ports will only supply about 380mA. If the charger / battery requires more than that the USB port doesn't care, it's still only going to supply 380mA. The battery will still charge just slower.
There is no technical reason it would harm a USB port.
Some older USB ports don't have the charging circuits connected, the two outer pins. They are data only, the two centre pins.

I always use wall chargers anyway. They are usually 500mA and up.

I enjoy fiddling with PCs- have built a few and enjoy repairing friend's PCs. The problem lies within the quality control with some of these PVs which are basically batteries with some electronics. I had an 18650 mah battery fail and begin to overheat. Luckily I never leave my batts charging unattended.
From threads
"I have a friend who fried his motherboard with a faulty passthrough, so for a few bucks, I bought a wall adapter - no need to take a chance. Thanks, nice Poll - I was curious to see if anyone else had any bad experiences."
Here's a thread from a Vet whom has given me some great advice since I began vaping- Post # 10
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/new-members-forum/235981-issues-using-usb-ports-pcs.html

and a video from Steeljan- a highly regarded Vet and retired electrical engineer



My thoughts are "if" everything ran perfectly there would be no issues but because of the poor QC in relation to PV batteries it's always an unknown as to whether or not it's safe practice. Having said that there are MANY that run chargers and PT through their usb ports without issue.
To put it another way when I was in construction I would present diff plans to potential customers. Of course they always would be attracted to the lower quote. At that point I would list the pros and cons and give my honest opinion as to what I thought was the "better way to go" based on their future plans. Built a small addition yrs ago for a client- 2 quotes, First one/ higher price extending her present heating system to the addition...the 2nd quote/ lower was installing electric BB heaters. She went with the BB heaters and "signed" off on the quote stating that extra costs would be incurred over the yrs in relation to her hydro bill. 2 yrs later she called me up and complained about her hydro bills. I faxed her the sign off sheet where she had stated she had been explained the expected higher hydro costs. Funny thing is I prolly spent an hour trying to convince her the first quote was the way to go long term.

 

[Ang-EC]

Ok, I get where you are coming from now with the USB warning.

I have decided to get an eGo passthrough battery and a Crystal V2 cartomizer as my next PV. At least I can add on to that.
Called the local shop where we bought the HDSmoke eCig just to see how much more it would be to buy locally. They had no idea of what I was asking about, never heard of eGo or a passthrough battery. Called another shop advertising themselves as a Head Shop. They sell vaporizers but had no idea what I was talking about. Scary.

I guess I'll be ordering online today. I hope they ship quick. I've go three cartos left and we're going through 1 a day.

 

[Vapoor eyes er]

Thank you. I just wouldn't want anything to happen to anyone...and there are still old PCs out there. I just gave my old PC to someone to replace theirs which had a 20 GB HD They were astounded at the fact it has 350 GB.

Hi Ang-EC. Here's the Cdn Vendors List. I know there aren't many on the East Coast but a few really good ones in and around Montreal. They are ECF listed and verified.
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...c-supplier-list-via-pm-only-part-2-a-104.html

Ok, I get where you are coming from now with the USB warning.

I have decided to get an eGo passthrough battery and a Crystal V2 cartomizer as my next PV. At least I can add on to that.
Called the local shop where we bought the HDSmoke eCig just to see how much more it would be to buy locally. They had no idea of what I was asking about, never heard of eGo or a passthrough battery. Called another shop advertising themselves as a Head Shop. They sell vaporizers but had no idea what I was talking about. Scary.

I guess I'll be ordering online today. I hope they ship quick. I've go three cartos left and we're going through 1 a day.

 

[Ang-EC]

I ordered an eGo passthrough and a Crystal V2.
Now someone is telling me the Crystal V2 is not very good and I should have gotten a T3 or EVOD and a eGo Twist.
I thought the Crystal V2 was the same as the Riva you recommended earlier.
What is the difference between the Crystal V2 and an EVOD or T3?

I'm still trying to figure out how lower ohms and higher voltage effects the performance of a PV. I assume faster heat creates more more vapor.

In any case it is better than the one I have and I've wasted a lot more than $7.99 in the past.

 

[Katya]

Hi, Ang!

I'm not familiar with Crystal V2, but it looks like a BCC (bottom changeable coil) clearomizer, which, on paper, is the same model as Kanger T3 and Evod. I don't think you can go wrong with it. I am a recent BCC convert; I like T3 and just ordered Evod, which is similar but a bit smaller.

(EDIT: looks can be deceiving.)

Riva is a battery, not a clearomizer, an eGo-clone, but a true 3.7v device, unregulated. EGos are regulated at 3.4-3.5 v, roughly (the new ones; the older ones were 3.1-3.2v).

As for the power (heat) that your device generates, the idea is to find your sweet spot, or the correct wattage. Most people like it somewhere between 4.5 and 8.5 watts... I take it you're familiar with the Ohm's Law.

Here's the calculator I like--for quick reference.

Online Conversion - Ohm's Law Calculator

eGo-C Twist is a variable voltage battery, which means it lets you choose the voltage at which you like to vape, from 3 to 4.8v. You can always add a Twist (or a Spinner if your eyes are not too sharp) to your collection. It will work fine with your hardware.

 

[Ang-EC]

Thank you. Yes I am familiar with Ohm's law.
This is a fairly inexpensive hobby. I don't mind throwing out <$10.00 to try different cartomizers.

I'm trying to get rid of an old addiction not trying to create a new on. So far I don't plan on going much further with hardware. Just trying to find a suitable combination for now.

 

[Vapoor eyes er]

I ordered an eGo passthrough and a Crystal V2.

The eGo is a good buy but have never heard of the Crystal V2. It's quite common to see products re-branded by some vendors- it makes it harder to do a price comparison IMO.

Is this the one you bought?

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or this one?

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Thank you. Yes I am familiar with Ohm's law.
This is a fairly inexpensive hobby. I don't mind throwing out <$10.00 to try different cartomizers.

I'm trying to get rid of an old addiction not trying to create a new on. So far I don't plan on going much further with hardware. Just trying to find a suitable combination for now.

The best way I've found is to use clearos, tank or whatever delivery device (holds and vaporizes the juice) that are rebuildable. The only part that requires replacing are the heads (coil/ element+ wick) and usually cost $2- $3 each. My heads are lasting 6-8 weeks and even though they're still working the wick is a little frayed so I just change it. Realize though with plastic tanks there is the chance certain acidic juices could cause damage to the tank. As for vaping being expensive in the beginning- yes but as time passes it does become much less expensive.