In over my head! In Canada, need help!!!!

[Papashanz]

Yesterday my parents got back from a vacation in Florida, I went over to visit them and my dad is smoking a cigar inside the house. He always smokes them outside because my mom has large amounts of asbestos in her lungs and can't be around smoke period. I was about to ask what the heck he was doing when I noticed I couldn't smell any smoke. Turns out he bout a Libre Leon cigar vape from a kiosk in Florida! I (probably like most others) had heard about e cigs and never ever thought they could possibly take the place of my beloved Number 7 Blues. Boy was I wrong! Tried it, instantly fell in love and need my own

So for several hours last night I began the task of researching the various types of vape's for which one would be good for me. Blu seemed really attractive, but after all the negative comments I'm not so sure.

What I want - being new to this, I would prefer a cig style with cartomizers. Being that every company says that their's are number one, it's hard to decide. I have spent many hours over last night and today reading many posts in this fabulous forum, watching reviews on youtube etc. I am now more confused than ever. It seems like CC is cracking down ever more on holding at the border, and I need the nic. I have found a store where I live that sells the Blu starter kit minus the nic carts (possibly, they did not want to tell me over the phone that they sell them in case I was looking to cause trouble) but seems likely because blu seems to label their stuff like crazy and have found several comments of their product not making it over the border. HDsmoke seems to offer nic (hard to tell with how they word it) but also doesn't seem to be the best product from reviews. Does anybody have a suggestion for a very good cig starter? Don't know if I want to order from states as a starter kit seems expensive and the last thing I want is to throw money down the tube. I don't mind trying to order carts from there as it won't be as much money if it doesn't make it. So maybe a good starter kit from Canada that is compatible with decent carts from the states???

Feel bad for my pops, he loves his and they told him in Florida he can order carts to Canada anytime, maybe they didn't know about HC and all their B.S. Am interested to see if they send him any, from smokefreeonline . com. (they don't list Canada in country when you try to check out) Any help with good starter cig and ways to get nic in Canada is much appreciated, don't know how much longer I can stare at my comp Was extremely happy at first, thinking wow I can finally put these stinky things away, now feeling overwhelmed and a bit down because it seems it is getting harder to get nic here. Help me get rid of these analogs please!!!!

Shane

 

[Katya]

Hi Shane and welcome to ECF!

First of all, did you know that we have a big and busy Canada subforum here? Those folks know everything and are very helpful; they can give you much more inside information on how things work in Canada. I suggest that you post your questions here:

Canada Forum

There are many decent mini e-cig kits on the market here, but they all have their limitations, as you probably know. You have to deal with batteries that don't last very long and with the hassle of constantly refilling carotomizers, which do tend to burn, unfortunately. I don't know about the latest models, but Volt seems to be still popular, Bloog, G6 (sold by Halo); they are all clones and perform equally well. You can also consider the 510 batteries, they can be used with tank-type cartomizers (fillerless).

I would probably choose one of those two, as they offer the best of both worlds: small form and no cartomizers.

https://www.cignot.com/product_p/kit-rol-all.htm (very small)

https://www.cignot.com/product_p/kit-cab-all.htm a little larger than eRoll, but smaller than eGo.

Good luck!

 

[Papashanz]

Thanks Katya for the suggestion To be honest, I'm a little apprehensive about filling my own or mixing for my first vape. I like the idea of carts with a new atomizer every time. What do you mean about burning? Also very off topic, but I'm also new to forum's as well lol why are some threads red/grey/blue? Sorry, new to a lot I guess!

 

[Papashanz]

Yes good discussion on the Canada forum, just a couple more posts before I can ask there Also, what was inticing to me from blu was the charging pack, does any other company offer something like this? There are many complaints about the bly one that if you charge for more than 4 hours it will eventually kill the pack battery..... can anyone confirm this?

 

[Papashanz]

Arg please forgive my spelling, it's been a long day! lol

 

[Katya]

Thanks Katya for the suggestion To be honest, I'm a little apprehensive about filling my own or mixing for my first vape. I like the idea of carts with a new atomizer every time. What do you mean about burning? Also very off topic, but I'm also new to forum's as well lol why are some threads red/grey/blue? Sorry, new to a lot I guess!

I understand, I was that way too... But it becomes very expensive after a while. And you have to keep those cartomizers moist at all times to keep the fillier from burning; if you don't have any juice on hand, you can't do it and you will be forced to throw away your cartos prematurely. Huge waste. But by all means, go ahead and order a kit that you like; just make sure you order a small battle of eliquid (in compatible flavor) so you can top off your carto.

Yep, burning, as in burning the filler (cotton and polyfill) inside your cartomizer. It will burn if you vape too fast, if you overvape your carto, if you let your carto get dry, if you vape your carto too hot...

Never mind. I don't want to discourage you!

Red, gray and blue threads? Where?

 

[Katya]

Yes good discussion on the Canada forum, just a couple more posts before I can ask there Also, what was inticing to me from blu was the charging pack, does any other company offer something like this? There are many complaints about the bly one that if you charge for more than 4 hours it will eventually kill the pack battery..... can anyone confirm this?

There's nothing wrong with Blu. It has a 510 connection, so you can use any 510 threaded cartomizer with it, including the 510-T (that has a tank, as opposed to polyfill). I don't much care for the taste of Blu prefilled cartos, they use Johnson Creek all VG juice--not my thing...

Am I confusing you more or am I helping?

 

[Papashanz]

Hmm I think I may be catching on here, so tank systems have nothing to burn? I may be missing something, to dry out your cart, it isn't filled with liquid? Or it's a sponge like system that dries out at the part closest to the atomizer?

Regarding the threads, the little pics of the letter beside the thread that are different colors, some are red (thinking closed) and some red with a lock, some blue etc....

 

[Papashanz]

I think you are leading me to a new understanding lol

 

[Vapoor eyes er]

Hi Shane and welcome to ECF. # 1 vendor in Canada with the lowest prices, quality gear and is ECF listed/ verified (means they must abide by a strict code of ethics to remain listed) is
www.CANVAPE.com Welcome to Canada's ultimate one stop shop on-line created for Canadian's to service your electronic cigarette needs. You'll find the highest quality products online for sale as well as the best pricing, service and sales. Quick proce You have to register to view "everything"
The Blu is over priced and people usually move up. Also the batts drain quickly. The "charging pack" you're speaking of id known as a PCC (personal charging case). Realize when buying batteries 100 mah= 1 hr normal vaping before needing recharge.
Here's 51-0 PVs:
https://www.canvape.com/category-s/1815.htm
and a PCC:
https://www.canvape.com/product-p/joyepcc.htm
If he doesn't mind something a little larger this is a good kit for the $$:
https://www.canvape.com/product-p/egor1100.htm
Here's a review of the Riva- also known as the Kgo:


The only thing I don't like about that kit is the cartridge+ atomizer delivery system- best to buy some 510 cartomizers:
https://www.canvape.com/product-p/bssxl.htm

 

[Katya]

Hmm I think I may be catching on here, so tank systems have nothing to burn? I may be missing something, to dry out your cart, it isn't filled with liquid? Or it's a sponge like system that dries out at the part closest to the atomizer?

Regarding the threads, the little pics of the letter beside the thread that are different colors, some are red (thinking closed) and some red with a lock, some blue etc....

Old cartomizers were designed for single use and are filled with polyfill and the coil is wrapped in a tiny cotton blanket. Those tend to scorch, if you're not careful.

The new ones, the clearomizers (T3, Evod, etc), eGo-C and eGo-T cartos have an empty tank and a heating coil, all in one, you fill the tank with your eliquid and vape on. Nothing to burn.

Oh, those colors! No idea; the locked threads have a lock icon on them.

 

[Katya]

Hello Vapoor!

See Shane, I told you those Canadians know everything and are very helpful!

You're in good hands now!

Good luck!

 

[Papashanz]

Old cartomizers were designed for single use and are filled with polyfill and the coil is wrapped in a tiny cotton blanket. Those tend to scorch, if you're not careful.

The new ones, the clearomizers (T3, Evod, etc), eGo-C and eGo-T cartos have an empty tank and a heating coil, all in one, you fill the tank with your eliquid and vape on. Nothing to burn.

Oh, those colors! No idea; the locked threads have a lock icon on them.

Hmm that doesn't sound pleasant, maybe I should just get a tank system from the start. I'm currently looking at the ion that has come up in a ad on this site, it says you can upgrade to an atomizer and drip tip? Is this like a tank system? BTW, you are a sweet heart for helping me thank you so much

 

[Vapoor eyes er]

Don't know if we know everything...weren't you here first 2:50 a.m. and couldn't sleep.

Hello Vapoor!

See Shane, I told you those Canadians know everything and are very helpful!

You're in good hands now!

Good luck!

 

[Papashanz]

Don't know if we know everything...weren't you here first 2:50 a.m. and couldn't sleep.

Maybe not, but a lot more than me lol I am currently viewing their site Vapoor, thank you

 

[Vapoor eyes er]

Here's a description of the delivery systems- they hold and vaporize the juice:

Different delivery systems:- note bolded Atty, Carto, etc is the abbreviated form

Atomizer/ Atty- an element on to which 3-4 drops of juice is dripped- usually used for testing new juices because Attys are easy to clean. There are some diehard Atty users because it’s the best vape possible but very time consuming.

Cartridge/ Cart- a container with sponge (filled with juice) that is used with the Atty- juice drips on to Atty from filled cart and is vaporized- older outdated first “tank” system and prone to leaks unless the user is willing to buy extra seals and “fiddle” with them.

Cartomizer/ Carto- metal tube with stuffing and element. Holds anywhere form 1- 4 ml of juice. Carto is fully saturated and must be occasionally refilled when juice runs out. My Cartos last 1-2 weeks. Best Cartomizer I’ve found is the Smok Tech XL 1.7 single coil. Boge 2.0 ohm cartos will give a cooler vape. Always use single coil cartos with 3.3- 3.7 PVs for the best vape.

Carto+Tank- a Carto with a hole punched in it. Carto is than placed in a glass, metal or plastic tank which is filled with juice- juice saturates Carto by way of hole in Carto. My Cartos with a tank last, before tight draw occurs: light juices- 80-90 ml. dark juices- 50-60 ml.

Clearomizer (includes the Stardust and the Vivi Nova Tank)- a plastic or metal tank with a wick and element. Contains NO stuffing. The rebuildable clearos come with heads (coil+ wick) that can be cheaply and easily replaced. When the head burns out simply unscrew the old head out and screw in new head- takes 10 secs. My Vivi Nova heads are lasting about 4 weeks BUT I wash the heads every few days. I've found the Vivi Nova to give the best draw.

If there's anything you want a link to or a further explanation...

 

[Katya]

Hmm that doesn't sound pleasant, maybe I should just get a tank system from the start. I'm currently looking at the ion that has come up in a ad on this site, it says you can upgrade to an atomizer and drip tip? Is this like a tank system? BTW, you are a sweet heart for helping me thank you so much

I'm not familiar with that system, but it sounds like a plain atomizer; I have no patience for dripping. Got a link?

And really, if money is no object, get yourself a Blu and start experimenting. Vapoor is right, you'll eventually move up, but it takes a while. You'll never get the right kit from the very start; most of us have gone through several different models before we settled down on what we really like.

 

[Wrainn]

Go to www.liberty-flights.com and look at the Riva 510 be sure and click the 20% off button top left of home page. I have been vaping for 2 years and was exactly where you are right now minus the Canada issue. To this day We still start all the new vapors off with these kits along with a box of boge 510 cartomizers. I promise, this will cost you less than 50.00 total and it is very easy to use. If they don't ship to Canada read the description and try to match that to something you can get shipped there. If you have problems, message me. I promise, you won't be disappointed or to confused going this route. Good luck

Be careful of the toes you step on today, they may be connected to the ... you kiss tomorrow

 

[Katya]

Go to E-Liquid and Electronic Cigarette Shop - Category Listings and look at the Riva 510 be sure and click the 20% off button top left of home page. I have been vaping for 2 years and was exactly where you are right now minus the Canada issue. To this day We still start all the new vapors off with these kits along with a box of boge 510 cartomizers. I promise, this will cost you less than 50.00 total and it is very easy to use. If they don't ship to Canada read the description and try to match that to something you can get shipped there. If you have problems, message me. I promise, you won't be disappointed or to confused going this route. Good luck

Be careful of the toes you step on today, they may be connected to the ... you kiss tomorrow

Yeah, I agree, But Shane was looking for a mini and prefilled cartos.

I switched from kr808 to Rivas and eGos and never looked back. I love my eGo Twist and my Bottom Coil Changeable eGo cartomizers...

 

[Papashanz]

I'm not familiar with that system, but it sounds like a plain atomizer; I have no patience for dripping. Got a link?

And really, if money is no object, get yourself a Blu and start experimenting. Vapoor is right, you'll eventually move up, but it takes a while. You'll never get the right kit from the very start; most of us have gone through several different models before we settled down on what we really like.

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So from what I understand now is the clearomizer (thanks Vapoor for the definitions!) is a good system, does anyone make one small and sleek like the blu style cig?