In search of a tank that isnt crap

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Too often, people go from criticizing a product for not suiting their needs, to sounding like a commercial for another product. Actual defects occur in anything and are frustrating to be sure. That doesn't make everyone ever made defective.

There is no superior product.

There is the product that suits individual need in function and form.

I'm happy with my pro tanks. I know every issue they have and I'm comfortable working with the coils and dry burning them. I currently have no interest in dripping or the like. It's always wise to avoid blanket statements condemning or big upping any one class of device. Different strokes..
 

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Too often, people go from criticizing a product for not suiting their needs, to sounding like a commercial for another product. Actual defects occur in anything and are frustrating to be sure. That doesn't make everyone ever made defective.

There is no superior product.

There is the product that suits individual need in function and form.

I have experience with all tanks I mentioned. As my post said, a clearo such as a protank is INFERIOR in flavor production. Have you used both tanks as I have and are you actually claiming otherwise?
 

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I'm happy with my pro tanks. I know every issue they have and I'm comfortable working with the coils and dry burning them. I currently have no interest in dripping or the like. It's always wise to avoid blanket statements condemning or big upping any one class of device. Different strokes..

I was happy with my cotton wicked Protanks too.... until I discovered that the flavor was actually muted compared to kayfun style tanks. If you haven't tried it... you don't know what you're missing, do ya? Kayfuns are not drippers either. They are tank atomizers like a Protank.... except with a superior design that's made specifically for enhancing flavor.
 
I was happy with my cotton wicked Protanks too.... until I discovered that the flavor was actually muted compared to kayfun style tanks. If you haven't tried it... you don't know what you're missing, do ya? Kayfuns are not drippers either. They are tank atomizers like a Protank.... except with a superior design that's made specifically for enhancing flavor.

No i don't know, but as i said I'm happy with the pro tank. If you are saying all clearos are garbage and everyone should run out and buy a kayfun i just will have to disagree. Perhaps I'll want something new at some point, but i'm not currently interested. Generally if you're happy with something you aren't in any big rush to spend money to replace it. My understanding of kayfun and russian clones is they need to be refilled frequently. Are you saying it can hold as much juice as a pro tank 2? The frequent refills wouldn't work for me which is why I've never looked in to them much.
 

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For all the complaints I read about the protank I absolutely love my Pt2. It really is a Damn kick ... vape once you understand why it leaks and how to prevent it. 50/50 juices.. flip the little rubber grommet that sits on the post over the atomizer so the walls are facing up. Let the tank sit/ primer puff it a few times before the first hit after filling it. Don't hit it too hard. Don't get juice in the center post when filling. Burp the tank (relieve air pressure) about every 1/3 of a tank possibly more if near empty by opening the bottom as though you were going to fill it, then close it. And if you do happen to get some gurgle hold the tank upside down above you and blow through the drip tip until you hear air flow free. Dab with a vaper towel and viola.

Get other tanks if you really feel the need. But imo you should give the Pt2 another go, it'll treat you right if you do the same to it.

I think it's mostly Kangers fault themselves actually. If they only could provide decent instructions like this, how their products work, people wouldn't have these issues...

The instructions that comes with a PT2 actually just informs how to assemble and fill it.
 

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I am currently vaping on an iClear 30S. I like it well enough. 50/50 juice, menthol, citrus, and berry flavors. 9-10W. Vapes well, doesn't leak, coils last a long time, and no burnt hits. And affordable.

Also tried the iClear 30B, which I did not like. Leaked, no flavor, coils lasted only a day or two before bad flavor and hits. No go for me.

Also tried the Vivi Nova. Ok at around 5-6W with the same juice, but they can leak, the coils don't last all that long, and you tend to get burnt hits from poor wicking at around 1/2 tank or so. You have to constantly spin the mod to keep things wet. Constantly.

Smoking is fire and forget. Vaping is a little more fiddly. Get used to it. Stick with it, and you will be glad. With all the money you save, you can start looking at more sophisticated setups. There is no perfect vapeware, and opinions are subjective.

And read post #46 two or three times. You can make your setup work. Many, many others have.
 

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No i don't know, but as i said I'm happy with the pro tank. If you are saying all clearos are garbage and everyone should run out and buy a kayfun i just will have to disagree. Perhaps I'll want something new at some point, but i'm not currently interested. Generally if you're happy with something you aren't in any big rush to spend money to replace it. My understanding of kayfun and russian clones is they need to be refilled frequently. Are you saying it can hold as much juice as a pro tank 2? The frequent refills wouldn't work for me which is why I've never looked in to them much.


My post clearly says that in the area of flavor.... a kayfun style tank is superior. They also hold as much or more juice than a protank and some of them like the Russian Big hold a whopping 10ml of juice. That's WAY more than any Protank. You can be content and happy with muted flavor if you wish. No harm done since you don't know what your missing. I am here as a fellow vaper informing whoever of a tank that delivers far superior flavor. It's odd that those who know nothing about it or how good it actually is start getting defensive. "Well, my cheap protank is good enough!!!".

The Kanger Protank 2 has a claimed 2.5ml capacity. The regular Kayfun has 4.5ml.

For the record, I have countless Protanks, Vivi Novas, I clears etc etc. Not one of them can get anywhere near a Kayfun in flavor production. Not even close. Ignorance is bliss but some of us HAVE discovered something better.


This is a Kayfun. See the one on the very right? Notice the chimney inside the clear tank? It dramatically concentrates and increases flavor. I won't waste good juice in a cheap Protank anymore... after discovering this far superior tank.

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I have to agree with k702. The first couple of days after I got my pt3, I was having flooding issues half the time. After a little trial and error, you figure out what works and preventative measure to ensure you don't have the same issues over and over.

Ethermion, I was having the same issues with my 30B, I switched the coils 3 different time in 5 days (luckily my local shop let me swap them out for free). I ended up putting it down and not using it again.
 
My post clearly says that in the area of flavor.... a kayfun style tank is superior. They also hold as much or more juice than a protank and some of them like the Russian Big hold a whopping 10ml of juice. That's WAY more than any Protank. You can be content and happy with muted flavor if you wish. No harm done since you don't know what your missing. I am here as a fellow vaper informing whoever of a tank that delivers far superior flavor. It's odd that those who know nothing about it or how good it actually is start getting defensive. "Well, my cheap protank is good enough!!!".

The Kanger Protank 2 has a claimed 2.5ml capacity. The regular Kayfun has 4.5ml.

For the record, I have countless Protanks, Vivi Novas, I clears etc etc. Not one of them can get anywhere near a Kayfun in flavor production. Not even close. Ignorance is bliss but some of us HAVE discovered something better.


This is a Kayfun. See the one on the very right? Notice the chimney inside the clear tank? It dramatically concentrates and increases flavor. I won't waste good juice in a cheap Protank anymore... after discovering this far superior tank.

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Interesting. I appreciate the information, but you could maybe share that in a less abrasive way. For every person that swears by one product you will find another that says it's no good. It's the internet . In fact, when someone says get this because everthing else is cheap junk, i'm far less likely to listen to them.

Edit: Just watched the pbusardo review of the kayfun. Sounds good but i'm maybe not at the coil building phase yet. I'll keep it in mind though.
 
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I didnt find imagex abrasive.
There is a vape for everyone.

Ill tell ya right now, i have some protank knock offs, and use the protanks universal coils, and they work better than the kanger product.

I can also tell you if i dont like my juice flavor, i can vape it in a clearo.

I can also tell you i prefer cartotanks.
I forgot what a dry or burnt hit tastes like. It doesnt happen.
I dont rebuild, dissassemmble or flip or rearrange parts.

But if that makes ya happy so be it.

But to say there is not better vape than a pt. gosh. I mean. Wow. The flavor is soooo muted. And well. Wow.
I just cant find anything to say that isnt abrasive. Just wow.
 

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personally I can't stand any tanks. I gave up on them. I exclusively drip now in a RDA.

And how does that help the OP?

If dripping were my only option in vaping, I would still be smoking. I spend too much time in rent a cars and running to catch planes to put up the hassle and mess of dripping. The BC's have been a godsend to someone like me: easy head swap and just load them up and go. My device has to be something I can take out of my pocket and vape when I can.

This type of negativity either makes the people who can't get good results with the BC Kanger's very stupid or the ones who do get good results very smart.

I own and have tried almost every topper out there: Russian's, Genesis, and even carto tanks. Why I even use RDA's for testing DIY juices stiff micro coil with cotton; just pull the wick, rinse, and rewick. I also own just about every BC out there both clones and original Kanger's. I will use different toppers for different juices. Sometimes it takes a while to figure things out. Lord knows how many attempts and hours I spent on trying to figure out the genesis.

These are the things the OP can try:

1) Swap out your head every second tank. Don't toss it, just clean it in a solution of denture cleaner or something similar. Do remove the chimney. Rinse, dry burn, and re-assemble. The coils in the BC's are not big, and some juices will clog them quickly. Also, the BC's are really not a universal topper. It's a fact of life. I have never had any issues with a 70/30 mix of PG/VG. The Boba's I ran through mine gave me grief.
2) Take the chimney grommet off of another head. Flip it, slide it down the chimney. It might give you the seal you need.
3) Try removing one of the flavor wicks
4) Try rewicking with cotton.

There is no such thing as plug and play in the vape world, or one size fits all. If there were, you would not find so many different types of atty's or mods.

Some stuff is crap like the original Gotvapes Fluxomizers which cracked with just about every juice out there. But if so many people are using a product successfully, then there can only be three reasons: user error, wrong product for your vaping style, and I have already mentioned the third.
 
Highrider, must be miscommunication here, i did not say that YOU did.
But it was said earlier in The thread i think by jwoode or something there no better product or something to that effect.
Please dont be defensive as i am not attacking.

Ok then no worries. I'm a relatively new vaper so i have no great knowledge of all devices. You did address me directly in your post though, so you might want to be more clear about who you are responding to.
 

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Highrider, must be miscommunication here, i did not say that YOU did.
But it was said earlier in The thread i think by jwoode or something there no better product or something to that effect.
Please dont be defensive as i am not attacking.

What I said was:

"There is no superior product.

There is the product that suits individual need in function and form."
 

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:p to highrider
Yeah, i have learned to read posts with less emotion.
I myself have not tried the kayfun.
Im still trying tonget my rda's right.

To every one lol
I have the protank2 and it seems to work great till it gets a little bit under half full. So it sits in my graveyard box.
It is the most expensive tank i have bought and the one i am least satisfied with.

Madvapes has a pbcv2 that i love. It is glass and uses the same replacement coils and a heck of a lot cheaper.
Some one else may have good luck with those as well.

For taste testing juices, i buy some minimt3 from chinabuye for $3 a tank and replace the coils with kanger protank universal coils. Those arent glass though.

With the above clearos i dont build, flip, rearrange or get gurgle burnt problems.

I also vape a 50/50 or 70/30 pg/vg ratio.

My adv go in my cartotanks.

That is what works for me.
There is a bdc from kumiho that i am going to try that is interchangable with aspires bdc replacements.
I am going to try them out as well as the kumiho itank.
I found them at www.desertvapes.com

All i can bring to the table is my experiences.
Some people prefer a muted flavor. So depending on your juice that may be a good thing.
Meaning muted flavor is not always bad.

Thats why i say there is a vape for every one.
I have found mine.
But i enjoy helping others find theres.

If any one has experience with the kumiho speak up cuz i havnt found any reviews yet.
 

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What I said was:

"There is no superior product.

There is the product that suits individual need in function and form."

I think this is right. Some tank are more prone to need adjusting. I used t-2 thought they were great but then the t-3 came bottom coil let me grab my plastic. Pro tank arrived, super and it glass too life doesn't get any better. Hold on a minute pt-2 is out and it comes apart for cleaning and no glue, gotta get that! I awoke on day to find out there's a pt3 coming out and it's bottom duel coil...ehh I holding up a bit. Aspire gets rave reviews I'm due for something new bdc here I come. My first impression was awesome on this product but then I had that early quality control problem 2 of 5 heads worked right.. darn. Where I'm heading with this is you will get a good to great vape out of any of them some require tinkering some just a out right rebuild. Don't get caught up in the buy lots of tanks searching for nirvana there's always a new "better" one coming out. Find a tank that suits your style of vape, that is easy to maintain and has easy to get replacement heads or if you can rebuild ... rebuildable heads. Rba's will give better results then most store bought coils but new vapers need it easy and simple.
I suggest to get a pyrex tank on what ever you purchase so you can vape any juice.
 
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