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What are the kit names, can you give the names I will check those
Asking basically the same questions in more than one thread can lead to severe confusion / difficulty keeping track of every tip, suggestion & tidbit of advice for everyone involved.
What type of inhale do you prefer Mtl or Dtl?
This info makes all the difference in the world on which delivery devices folks might recommend.
What size, shape, power range, battery configuration ( built in, single, dual or triple removable cell) and any other features do you want?
This info makes all the difference in the world on which power devices folks might recommend.
Using a more efficient regulated higher power setup the chance you'll need to stay at 24mg/ml nic is quite slim.
The only way to decrease throat hit when using 24 mg/ml nic would be to use liquids containing salt nic/protonated nicotine instead of free base nic.
Vg is slightly thicker, produces clouds, is smoother, has a sweet taste even by itself, slightly mutes flavors so most high Vg liquids contain slightly more flavorings.
Pg carries flavor better/ allows a more crisp or accurate representation of the flavorings, lets the nic throat hit come through & has a noticeable throat hit by itself.
Without knowing anything about the way you prefer to vape and what your needs / wants are;
Could be a Geekvape aegis solo ( small, single 18650 rugged, easy to use) and the cereberus tank for Dtl, or a innokin zenith with 1.6Ω head for Mtl.
I'd suggest 6mg/ml - 12 mg/ml for the Dtl subΩ 'tank'.
12 mg/ml - 24 mg/ml for the Mtl 'tank'
The likelihood of needing to substantially reduce nicotine coming from a Nord going to a better setup is high.
What type of inhale do you prefer Mtl or Dtl?
This info makes all the difference in the world on which delivery devices folks might recommend.
What size, shape, power range, battery configuration ( built in, single, dual or triple removable cell) and any other features do you want?
This info makes all the difference in the world on which power devices folks might recommend.
Using a more efficient regulated higher power setup the chance you'll need to stay at 24mg/ml nic is quite slim.
The only way to decrease throat hit when using 24 mg/ml nic would be to use liquids containing salt nic/protonated nicotine instead of free base nic.
Vg is slightly thicker, produces clouds, is smoother, has a sweet taste even by itself, slightly mutes flavors so most high Vg liquids contain slightly more flavorings.
Pg carries flavor better/ allows a more crisp or accurate representation of the flavorings, lets the nic throat hit come through & has a noticeable throat hit by itself.
Without knowing anything about the way you prefer to vape and what your needs / wants are;
Could be a Geekvape aegis solo ( small, single 18650 rugged, easy to use) and the cereberus tank for Dtl, or a innokin zenith with 1.6Ω head for Mtl.
I'd suggest 6mg/ml - 12 mg/ml for the Dtl subΩ 'tank'.
12 mg/ml - 24 mg/ml for the Mtl 'tank'
The likelihood of needing to substantially reduce nicotine coming from a Nord going to a better setup is high.
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The Dovpo I have is the topside 90w. As for the wismec, I have the rx2 20700. Both are on the bigger side, as they take bigger batteries. I'm not going to recommend either for a first step up from a pod or other lower powered device, as they are bulky, but what my take away from buying them is, even the less reputable brands, like wismec make some decent mods. I found the one for 25$, and splurged on the other when shipping on the first got delayed. I don't regret either purchase. The thing to remember is, no matter what mod you get, it probably won't be your last, and probably won't fit every need you have at different times. Even though I have both of these mods, I still keep a pod for backup.
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What I am still waiting for is what kit you use now. With that information we can give you suggestions on what to change. The more vapor there is the lower the nic that is needed. Most people vaping big cloud DL vape 6mg or less. Even 12mg is a lot for such a vape. Your current device should be working better than it is, ergo there is some sort of problem. Changing devices may not fix that problem since it remains unknown. We need information to find a solution.
I prefer mtl, presently using smok nord, it is good but I vape a lot so have to charge a lot, clouds are ok, looking for more clouds
The iStick iLeaf Pico mini is a great mod. Runs on 18650 battery and has adjustable voltage/wattage. I'm using 24 mg in mine, albeit with a 1.5 ohm cartomizer and DCT tank. About 11 watts/4.10 volts is perfect for me. With the original coils that come with it, you might have to up that to around 20 watts.
Yes I know what setup you're currently using.
In my previous response I gave a very good Mtl recommendation,
Geekvape aegis solo 'mod'/power device combined with an innokin zenith 'tank.
Or if you prefer internal non replaceable battery 'mod' & a Mtl 'tank' the Kroma / Zenith kit.
I'd recommend getting a box of 1.6Ω replacement heads.
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Aha. Data! We have something to work with. The nord is a fairly airy MTL pod system. You say 24mg/ml isn’t providing satisfaction?
In what way exactly? Throat hit? Craving reduction?
2 ideas that sort of combine if the issue is craving reduction:
1) try a WTA juice. Whole Tobacco Alkoloid juices have more in them than just nicotine.
2) there could be something wrong with your hardware. This one is kind of hard to diagnose from afar, and you say you like more clouds anyway so a change of hardware likely won’t hurt anything. Bigger cloud devices require more electricity so they are commensurately larger. My thought would be a heftier kit to get you more cloud, combined with a WTA juice to cover that base as well. You’ll want a lower nic level though.
You might want to try buying a bottle of high nic and a bottle of zero nic in the same flavor. Then you can mix them to change the nic level on the fly.
(My goodness! I never realized I used so much baseball terminology in general conversation, eek!)
Which coil are you using in the Nord? The 0.6ohm will give more clouds, but drain the battery faster than either of the MTL coils. Also, it will heat up much faster, so a second battery might be a good idea. Trying one of these coils might give you enough clouds, esp if you're using the 1.4 ohm that came with it.
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Also what liquid or liquids are you using at the moment? As these are another factor affecting your vaping experience.
Higher VG (Vegetable Glycerine), more thicker or viscous liquid that some coils have issues wicking (Distilled Water can be used to thin though), smoother on the throat and more visible vapour. Doesn't carry flavours well though.
Higher PG (Propylene Glycol), thinner liquid which wicks easily, harsher throat hit and less visible vapour. Excellent flavour carrier.
Freebase Nicotine is harsher than Nicotine Salts, and they of course use carrier bases as covered above. Which alter the experience.
And sorry to hear that the vape shops that you've encountered so far are of little help, it doesn't fill you with confidence. Hopefully some folks may be able to give you some ideas of decent vape shops though, sorry I'm not much use myself as UK based.
And if you want to invest in some more gear, the Geekvape Aegis SOLO kit and an Innokin Zenith (4ml capacity) or Zlide (2ml capacity) tank would be a good purchase as a starting setup. As you would have both ends of the vaping spectrum covered to look at, and you could also try a liquid with 70% VG / 30% PG.
What flavours interest you though?
Higher VG (Vegetable Glycerine), more thicker or viscous liquid that some coils have issues wicking (Distilled Water can be used to thin though), smoother on the throat and more visible vapour. Doesn't carry flavours well though.
Higher PG (Propylene Glycol), thinner liquid which wicks easily, harsher throat hit and less visible vapour. Excellent flavour carrier.
Freebase Nicotine is harsher than Nicotine Salts, and they of course use carrier bases as covered above. Which alter the experience.
And sorry to hear that the vape shops that you've encountered so far are of little help, it doesn't fill you with confidence. Hopefully some folks may be able to give you some ideas of decent vape shops though, sorry I'm not much use myself as UK based.
And if you want to invest in some more gear, the Geekvape Aegis SOLO kit and an Innokin Zenith (4ml capacity) or Zlide (2ml capacity) tank would be a good purchase as a starting setup. As you would have both ends of the vaping spectrum covered to look at, and you could also try a liquid with 70% VG / 30% PG.
What flavours interest you though?
Same here! Vaping much more than I used to smoke, but also enjoying it much more AND most importantly I feel that I actually have lungs and physical condition
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I Vaped almost nonstop for the first two weeks, then I increased the wattage with out decreasing the nic strength for the next two weeks, almost to dangerous levels. After that, the cravings dropped off substantially. My body is yet again telling me to lower nic level. No plans, but the floor is the limit. Oh, and I was getting head light from the rush of oxygen to the brain much more than nic, so I pushed on.Same here! Vaping much more than I used to smoke, but also enjoying it much more AND most importantly I feel that I actually have lungs and physical condition
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Not to be an ...... just pointing it out, a person can do similar using their coil build. You don't exactly & or technically need to use VW/VV devices to to get there from here. Sorry if that reads through being an ......, not meant as such. Again though rather see someone new using regulated devices until they decide, choose to try other.
remember that with vaping you are also detoxing from all the other crap that is in cigarettes, so it will take some time adjusting, try to get a higher nic if you can to help fight those cravings off
but don't worry about it as long as you are vaping more than you are smoking you are progressing and one day you will realize that you no longer need that cig daily.
it took me a while to give up smoking but that was back when cig-a-likes were the only option readily available it wasn't until I joined this forum and realized that there were much better option out there before I could quit smoking. you'll get there just keep remembering right now that it's not about that you are still smoking but about how much less you were smoking than before
rule of thumb it usually takes maybe 3 months for people to finally switch completely over to vaping but I know there are many in the forum that still dual use, have their one smoke a day and vape the rest of the day....
vaping is about harm reduction so as long as you are reducing cigarette use you are doing a good thing
but don't worry about it as long as you are vaping more than you are smoking you are progressing and one day you will realize that you no longer need that cig daily.
it took me a while to give up smoking but that was back when cig-a-likes were the only option readily available
it wasn't until I joined this forum and realized that there were much better option out there before I could quit smoking. you'll get there just keep remembering right now that it's not about that you are still smoking but about how much less you were smoking than beforerule of thumb it usually takes maybe 3 months for people to finally switch completely over to vaping but I know there are many in the forum that still dual use, have their one smoke a day and vape the rest of the day....
vaping is about harm reduction so as long as you are reducing cigarette use you are doing a good thing
My thoughts were that he was looking to get away from pods and the Smok Nord and into something with more clouds.
I'd rather see someone advance to a good regulated mod (which is a VV/VW/TC type device) and use factory coils for a while until they get used to the technical part of vaping without all the complexity.
The OP indicated that early on. He does need something with replaceable 18650/2x000 cells.
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Don't have the Kit...but...see the Innokin Kroma-A 75W & Zenith Tank Starter Kit recommended OFTEN for MTL vapers...
Innokin Kroma-A 75W & Zenith Tank Starter Kit | Vape Kits
(But I do love my multiple Zenith Tanks.)
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Innokin Kroma-A 75W & Zenith Tank Starter Kit | Vape Kits
(But I do love my multiple Zenith Tanks.)
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I’ve seen that a lot too. Wound up buying one on that recommendation but vaped it for only a few days. It got lost on a trip. It vaped really well though.
The tank is older now. There is a new simplified cheaper version out with a slightly different name.
Agreed, was only pointing out that technically it can be done on a mechanical as well as a regulated.
I'm on to 9thday, no cigarettes smoked. still looking for mod kit with clouds. Have to order on weekend
With clouds, it's more to do with the tank and coils. But more clouds uses more battery power, due to the coils used being lower ohms.
So most folks either get mods that use multiple batteries or single battery mods that use larger sized batteries/cells such as 21700.
The biggest thing is your budget though. If it's not too much of an imposition, what may your budget be?
If we know we can come up with some ideas for you then.
So most folks either get mods that use multiple batteries or single battery mods that use larger sized batteries/cells such as 21700.
The biggest thing is your budget though. If it's not too much of an imposition, what may your budget be?
If we know we can come up with some ideas for you then.
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