Inconsistent hits...

[Richie G]

... from my 4081 super mini is turning me off. It's akin to that *stoop-it* technology that the government enforced of an analog going out when not dragged on for a while. It's extremely annoying to take a hit on this thing only to be dragging on air. I've kept the atty clean, battery charged and I'm even taking the primer puff that the vids suggest. I'm hoping this is a pre-filled cart issue but won't know that until I get my first juice delivery from JC.

In another thread, one about a sore throat, Mary Kay (not to confused with the Avon lady <g>) suggested adding a drop of glycerin to the atty/cart. I'm wondering if that may help with my issue as well? I suppose the only way to figure out whether the inconsistency is a defective PV (battery and/or atty) is to eliminate the possibility that the cart isn't moist enough first?

Am I on the right branch of the diagnostic tree or am I lopping off the branch I'm standing on? =)

 

[jtwh20]

i find juice is usually the culprit in the issue your describing - since you've already checked the atty and battery

 

[toughdiamond]

Inconsistent hits has been my biggest problem too I'm still working on it - I now use nothing but liquid, and I just add 0.1ml to the cart, plus a little bit straight onto the atomiser to wet it. It doesn't really taste of anything for the first couple of tokes, but then it usually gets going pretty well. After that I mostly keep the e-cig vertical with the light end pointing down, so as to encourage the liquid to run down onto the atomiser. I reckon a lot of my trouble was that the liquid in the "mouth" end of the cart wasn't getting hot, being too far away from the heater. If I get a weak toke, I try giving the e-cig a quick shake (like you would with an old-fashioned thermometer), just to get the liquid onto the atomiser where it can heat up better. Biut don't go too mad or you might end up with liquid all over the end of the battery - wipe it with a tissue if that happens. Sometimes it's just that the battery is getting low - I've been known to disconnect it an measure it with a voltmeter - when fully charged it's 4 volts, if it's down to 3.6 volts then it doesn't do such a good job.

Also there's the ways I use it - either

1. I suck the vapour into my mouth (usually tastes sweet on the way in, if it's working), then take in a bit of air, and mix it slightly with my tongue, then inhale.

Or,

2. I just inhale direct from the e-cig, but allowing a little air into the vapour by not closing my lips too tightly round the cig.

Also, particularly with method 1., I find it works better when the atomiser has got nice and hot - there's a 5-second timeout built into the battery, so I kind of cheat, I keep briefly stopping the flow, because my e-cig (Gamucci Micro) doesn't force a minimum stop time before letting it work for another 5 seconds. Again, it's important not to go too far - I actually had slight burns to my lips, so now I'm a little more sensible, if the metal between the cart and the battery is getting really hot, I'll stop and let it cool down. Most likely, if I've had to do that to get a proper hit, there's something else going on that's stopping it working, probably the cart has run dry, or the liquid is too far away from the atomiser to get hot enough.

In theory my methods might ruin the atomiser, making it so hot and getting so much liquid on it, but so far it's holding up well to this "abuse." I haven't even bothered to clean it. I guess a lot depends on the purity of your liquid. Also, high temperatures may mean greater health risks if the e-cig materials are getting hot - you don't want to rupture the battery and inhale that8-o - but I've had no cough since starting to do these things, and the result tastes like a fairly pure nicotine hit to me - a good clean tingly feeling in my throat, it doesn't feel unhealthy. But really, please proceed with caution if you follow my tips.

Also, it could be my body that's getting used to the hit, like any drug you might end up taking bigger and bigger doses for the same effect. Best way to keep an eye on that is to watch how many times you need to recharge the batteries, and how much liquid you're using per week. Even at the end of all that, not every toke is a good one, but it seems to be getting more reliable for me.

 

[Redrowdy111]

I have had a 4081 for 2 days. The first day was good, no big problems. I was generally satisfied. Yesterday, I never got any consistency in my hits. Toward the end of the day, I kept getting the liquid all in my mouth every time I used. It seemed like more than normal. Today, I woke up with the worst sore throat, and horrible stomach aches. I actually have that feeling like I can't even smoke a e-cig all day. Its kinda like when you drink to much one night, the next day you dont even want to think about alcohol. Some advice plz.

 

[seminolewind]

I get better consistency when I top off with a few drops just till the top of cart looks wet. Then I usually take 3 long drags, then a break, usually till the battery cools off, maybe a minute. Another 3 drags, break. When I get less smoke, I immediately top off again. I can go consistent all day like this. Problem is at night when I smoke more and end up hot boxing the atomizer and getting a horrible burnt taste. And to gain in consistency, I usually get leakage. Trade off.

 

[Elendil]

Batteries have as much to do with good hits as any other factor. That is the reason mods are so popular.

 

[wv2win]

Batteries have as much to do with good hits as any other factor. That is the reason mods are so popular.

Agree 100%. If you want to leave the hassle of inconsistent throat hit behind, try a manual switch PV with a 1000mAh battery. 5, 6 or 7 hours of consistent vaping. Just have to keep the cart moist. And you also don't have to hold the PV in a particular manner or vape in some special way.

 

[latte hiatus]

Batteries have as much to do with good hits as any other factor. That is the reason mods are so popular.

I second that - once I started modding, I never looked back. Never did get consistent hits on the DSE901/RN4075 with OEM batteries or USB passthrough, and I still craved analogs. The DSE801 penstyle manual switch was an improvement, but it was still finicky enough that I wasn't completely off the analogs. Upping the voltage and battery life with mods finally allowed me to kick the analog cravings.

 

[mamu]

If you are one that needs good throat hits ALL the time (like me!) , you might want to consider purchasing an e-cig that has a manual switch in line with the battery. The manual switch heats the atomizer to a warmer temp which means better vapor and better throat hits! Also, there's no cut off to the drag time.

There are several good ones out there. jantyusa.com has the Dura-C (901 type) and the Kissbox (801 type) that have a manual switch. I have both. I also have the screwdriver.

Puresmoker.com is coming out with the Prodigy model that looks awesome! Probably will buy that too lol!

 

[Redrowdy111]

There are several good ones out there. jantyusa.com has the Dura-C (901 type) and the Kissbox (801 type) that have a manual switch. I have both. I also have the screwdriver.

Man, I was thinking about buying one of the three you just mentioned along with the Jantystick. Which is the best choice if you could only have one?

 

[Elendil]

Man, I was thinking about buying one of the three you just mentioned along with the Jantystick. Which is the best choice if you could only have one?

Since I have one I would say SD. But if the Janty Stick lives up to reviews, My answer could change down the road especially since Janty Stick = $80 vs $150 for the SD.

 

[wv2win]

Since I have one I would say SD. But if the Janty Stick lives up to reviews, My answer could change down the road especially since Janty Stick = $80 vs $150 for the SD.

I agree with Elendil. I have the SD and as it stands now, it's probably the best and most consistent, longest battery life PV on the market. But the Stick, LV and Prodigy will all be less costly and each has their own advantages. One thing most people forget when they look at the initial cost is the follow up cost of batteries. In the long run, auto-switch PV's and the manuals like the Dura-C/510 will cost more due to what they charge for batteries.

 

[dumwaldo]

For you folks with the 4081, take the cart off the atomizer. Use a paperclip and push it into the hole in the cart mouthpiece and that will push the small reservoir cup out of the cart. Toss it aside. Now drop 2 or 3 but not 4 drops of liquid directly on the bridge of the atomizer, not down the side. Slide the blank cart over the atomizer and vape for around 10 drags.

Repeat at will.

This will improve the experience that the 4081 delivers.

JMHO, carts just suck.

DW

 

[Stike]

good advice waldo,they ask about 4081 and people want them to spend 100$,I found also if you want to use carts make sure too put a drop on atomizer these units vape better when adomizer is alittle wetter.I have the expensive e-cig and wish I took the time to figure out the 4081 which isn't that bad once get past learning curve.

 

[mamu]

I most heartedly agree with Elendil and wv2win!!! If I had to choose the e-cig that consistently gives the best throat hit, has very low maintenance, and the longest battery life it would be the SD.

The SD tops anything I've ever experienced with any e-cig!

 

[Vicks Vap-oh-Yeah]

Man, I was thinking about buying one of the three you just mentioned along with the Jantystick. Which is the best choice if you could only have one?

The Kissbox and the SD each have their advantages and disadvantages...

Kissbox:

larger cart size
switch position
lighter (weight wise)
interchangable manual/auto switch



Screwdriver:

Cheaper batteries
Better Battery life
Hand built - Trog's service is impeccable
tighter draw
warmer vapor


The SD would be my go to devise except for 1 thing....the adapter that allows the SD to run 801 attys - Trog was having trouble with them, stopped producing them, and the one I have is inconsistent so I no longer use it. Overall, I use both about equally.

Astechically, I like the overall look of the KB over the SD - long, slim, and sleek.

I say you would be happy with either - I'm certainly happy with both of mine....but that could change, as I pre-ordered the Stick and am waaaaaaaiting....

 

[dumwaldo]

good advice waldo,they ask about 4081 and people want them to spend 100$,I found also if you want to use carts make sure too put a drop on atomizer these units vape better when adomizer is alittle wetter.I have the expensive e-cig and wish I took the time to figure out the 4081 which isn't that bad once get past learning curve.

Yeah, I could be mistaken but it looked to me like some folks wanted help with the e-cig they already have so I offered what advice I could.

I am not a very smart man so I could have completely misunderstood and missed the posts where someone was asking for suggestions on other things to buy to replace what they currently have.

DW

 

[dumwaldo]

I most heartedly agree with Elendil and wv2win!!! If I had to choose the e-cig that consistently gives the best throat hit, has very low maintenance, and the longest battery life it would be the SD.

The SD tops anything I've ever experienced with any e-cig!

was someone asking people to choose what e-cig gives the best throat hit, has very low maintenance and longest battery life?

I really need to learn how to read because I think I keep missing posts.

DW

 

[creaux]

I have a manual janta dura c and love it!! Its really consistent. I am holding my breath for a screwdriver (me turning blue) only because I want the battery life and power.

 

[Elendil]

was someone asking people to choose what e-cig gives the best throat hit, has very low maintenance and longest battery life?

I really need to learn how to read because I think I keep missing posts.

DW

Man, I was thinking about buying one of the three you just mentioned along with the Jantystick. Which is the best choice if you could only have one?

Yes DW, threads can and do veer off into different directions from time to time. We will be sure to check with you before doing so in the future........