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eddiea

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So it's a regular ole juice boiler huh...the juice that sits in the tank around the chamber getting super heated by your massive coil build gets all boiled out by the time it reaches your wicks. This is entirely avoided with the billow and aroma. The only reason I got back into tanks....or am I missing something.
All the tanks before the Aroma and Billow were built the same way. The juice that sits in the tank around the coil chamber gets heated before it gets to the wicks. If you look at the juice you will see it darken over time. By the time it gets to the wicks it is boiled out and has a burnt darker flavor. That's the genius of the Aroma and the Billow. This is the reason they were designed. Get it?
Not "entirely avoided." The Billow or any other tank, RTA, or so-called "RDTA" atomizer like the Aromamizer still has the chimney housing around the coil(s) and it will always heat up to a certain extent regardless of your coil size, so it's really no different. If you've burnt your juice using previous tanks, insufficient airflow is often the culprit - which is/was more common in older tanks (i.e., Kanger ProTanks, etc.) but not so common with newer tanks.
 
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Not "entirely avoided." The Billow or any other tank, RTA, or so-called "RDTA" atomizer like the Aromamizer still has the chimney housing around the coil(s) and it will always heat up to a certain extent regardless of your coil size, so it's really no different. If you've burnt your juice using previous tanks, insufficient airflow is often the culprit - which is/was more common in older tanks (i.e., Kanger ProTanks, etc.) but not so common with newer tanks.

It's COMPLETELY different. It has little to do with coil size.That's the entire purpose of the design. This tank is old design. Has nothing to do with airflow. Yes the coils are within a chimney housing but the juice isn't laying on THAT chimney housing while you vape the juice in the wicks. It's not too difficult a concept to grasp. I would get the same response when I posted on the Kanger or Aspire or Aqua or Kayfun threads.
 
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It's COMPLETELY different. It has little to do with coil size.That's the entire purpose of the design. This tank is old design. Has nothing to do with airflow. Yes the coils are within a chimney housing but the juice isn't laying on THAT chimney housing while you vape the juice in the wicks. It's not too difficult a concept to grasp. I would get the same response when I posted on the Kanger or Aspire or Aqua or Kayfun threads.
Different in design yes indeed but "Has nothing to do with airflow" is a bit overzealous of a statement. For example, I can vape all day long on my Cthulhu v2 for that matter and not experience any "boiled" or burnt juice whatsoever...nada...zilch. Why?, because of ample airflow which also helps keep the chimney/housing cool - notsomuch because of the design. This Mutation X MT is no different since it has ample airflow.

I mentioned coil size only because you said "the chamber getting super heated by your massive coil build gets all boiled out" so this seems to suggest coil size was also a factor in your rant.

I think we understand your point but personally it doesn't persuade me to run out and buy a different tank. I'm not exactly sure why you have to come onto this thread to troll your dislikes, but if you (or anyone else) don't care about the subject of this thread, just move on...get it?...it's not too difficult a concept to grasp (as you say).
 

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I don't think wharfrat is trying to get anybody to go out and buy a different tank at all. i think he's just making a point and some seem to be missing the point he's making. He's not talking about the juice boiling in the chamber where the coils and airflow are. I believe he's talking about the juice boiling/burning in the chamber before it gets to where the coils are. From the heat of the coil chamber. Darkening, and maybe altering the flavor (?) Of the juice.

EDIT: For the record. .. I'm not saying I understand the engineering/concepts of the discussion. o_O I just think folks are misunderstanding each other. Please correct me if I'm wrong!
 
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It's COMPLETELY different. It has little to do with coil size.That's the entire purpose of the design. This tank is old design. Has nothing to do with airflow. Yes the coils are within a chimney housing but the juice isn't laying on THAT chimney housing while you vape the juice in the wicks. It's not too difficult a concept to grasp. I would get the same response when I posted on the Kanger or Aspire or Aqua or Kayfun threads.
Wow, I think somebody drank the steamcrave marketing koolaid. I get their claim, but in practice it really makes no difference.
 

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Wow, I think somebody drank the steamcrave marketing koolaid. I get their claim, but in practice it really makes no difference.
I vaped most every tank and have not used tanks for over a year. The Aroma/Billow/Bellus design makes a huge difference. The juice stays pristine all the way until it is absorbed. Just watch your tank juice. Use a light to look at it at diferent stages through the tank as it gets darker and darker and darker.

Okay I'm done. Said my peace. Didn't mean to throw a wrench into the thread Kumbyeya. Peace.
 
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I vaped most every tank and have not used tanks for over a year. The Aroma/Billow/Bellus design makes a huge difference. The juice stays pristine all the way until it is absorbed. Just watch your tank juice. Use a light to look at it at diferent stages through the tank as it gets darker and darker and darker.

Okay I'm done. Ssiad my peace. Didn't mean to throw a wrench into the thread Kumbyeya. Peace.
You forget the kayfun 4, svoe mesto pioneered that juice delivery system.
 

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I vaped most every tank and have not used tanks for over a year. The Aroma/Billow/Bellus design makes a huge difference. The juice stays pristine all the way until it is absorbed. Just watch your tank juice. Use a light to look at it at diferent stages through the tank as it gets darker and darker and darker.

Okay I'm done. Ssiad my peace. Didn't mean to throw a wrench into the thread Kumbyeya. Peace.
I think the problem here is that "NOBODY" that actually owns this tank has experienced the issue you've been ranting about. Because if you look back thru this thread the only problems any of us have is a little leaking because we didn't use enough cotton! Don't hate the chocolate before you taste it you'll be missing out!
 

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I think the problem here is that "NOBODY" that actually owns this tank has experienced the issue you've been ranting about. Because if you look back thru this thread the only problems any of us have is a little leaking because we didn't use enough cotton! Don't hate the chocolate before you taste it you'll be missing out!
This.
I am using a Bellus and MT-RTA at the same time. I also understand what you are trying to convey, but I have not had any of the mentioned anomalies happen.
 
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So I watched a couple of reviews about the Aroma. Robert Ellis loves it
A crankey Phil Busardo not so much
It seems like "TO ME" the bottom fill would a deal breaker! So over that cuz of my subtank! Don't think I'll ever buy another bottom fill tank! Otherwise it seems like an awesome atty! Gonna check out the Bellus now. THIS IS NOT A BASH JUST MY:2c:
 

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So I watched a couple of reviews about the Aroma. Robert Ellis loves it
A crankey Phil Busardo not so much
It seems like "TO ME" the bottom fill would a deal breaker! So over that cuz of my subtank! Don't think I'll ever buy another bottom fill tank! Otherwise it seems like an awesome atty! Gonna check out the Bellus now. THIS IS NOT A BASH JUST MY:2c:

The aromamizer really is a nice Atty. What really swayed me for the MX tank is the build deck is easier then the 3 post I had, the airflow is crazy and the top fill is so much easier.

The one thing the aromamizer has I wish the MX tank did was let you access the build deck without dumping your juice out. That is such a nice thing to have but I'd rather have top fill and a bigger build deck

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I watched a few minutes of the Busardo vid. His first complaint is all RTAs should have a Velocity deck. Ok, so get one for your Aromamizer, Phil. They've been available for 2 months. Then he's having issues with the screws. I have 6 of the 3 post decks and they all had very nice screws so I think he's being a gorilla on tightening his leads. Honestly, I think he ought to stick to mod reviews.
 

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I watched a few minutes of the Busardo vid. His first complaint is all RTAs should have a Velocity deck. Ok, so get one for your Aromamizer, Phil. They've been available for 2 months. Then he's having issues with the screws. I have 6 of the 3 post decks and they all had very nice screws so I think he's being a gorilla on tightening his leads. Honestly, I think he ought to stick to mod reviews.
I agree with you on that. The screws on my aromamizer were perfect, no issues at all. Anyone can strip a screw if you force it

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As far as I know, all but the latest firmware revision of the IPVD2 do not have buck circuit which works in Wattage mode, so unless you have the latest firmware Rev 3.4 its probably dumping whatever your battery voltage is to your coils.
Would you please tell me where you found this info at? Have a ipv4s on the way but really like how small the d2 is. I just cant find anything about a buck chip in watts mode with the new firmware. Thank you
 

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