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Bman123

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HELPPP! Finally got time to rebuild the Mutank Rta. :D

Now, 3mm 24G 8/7 wraps or 2.5mm 26/32G claptons 6/5 wraps? I may be able to fit 26/32G 3mm 6/5 wrap claptons but it'll be a tight fit.
I've got 6 wrap 3mm 26g 32g claptons in mine now and they fit fine

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I've got 6 wrap 3mm 26g 32g claptons in mine now and they fit fine

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When i wrap 26/32 claptons on a 3mm thry tend to expand a lot, when I install them I try to pull the slack out and tighten the screws. So it's more like 3.3mm.
What do you do about the expanding for the Rta?
 

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HELPPP! Finally got time to rebuild the Mutank Rta. :D

Now, 3mm 24G 8/7 wraps or 2.5mm 26/32G claptons 6/5 wraps? I may be able to fit 26/32G 3mm 6/5 wrap claptons but it'll be a tight fit.
I'm such a little liar, I've actually got 7 wrap 3mm id 26g 32g Clapton coils

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I don't think mine really expand much, the screwdriver goes in without really any wobble.
I'll take my rta apart and take a pic real quick, I haven't used the thing in almost a week. I've been dripping like a mad man
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I'm sick of the soapy stock coil. I took the Mutank off and threw my dripper on and it was wonderful. Haha.
I should add this is my first Rta. I'm new to Rtas but not Rdas. Scale of 1 - 10...10 being dripper flavor strength, what should I expect with the Rta?
 

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I'm sick of the soapy stock coil. I took the Mutank off and threw my dripper on and it was wonderful. Haha.
I should add this is my first Rta. I'm new to Rtas but not Rdas. Scale of 1 - 10...10 being dripper flavor strength, what should I expect with the Rta?
Against my Mutation X V4 it runs almost a tie! I can load the same build in my V4 tomorrow if you like! but that will hopefully be too late!
 

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ok folks here's a pic of the mod that the batt. exploded in!View attachment 518884
The batt. is a Basen 18650 3500mah!
Anybody got anything?

That is a SMPL mod with a subtank mini. That combo is a no no.

The positive pin on the subtank sticks out but is kinda close to the ground threads on the 510. Which is fine, but add in a squishy positive pin insulator which the subtank has and it can short out. It is not spring loaded but does have some give to it.

Not bashing this mech, it and the 4nine are my favorite mechs. But you have to have a positive pin that both sticks out and absolutly will not move or squish in.

Edit - suprtrkr pointed out the switch is not a SMPL mod switch, I believe it is a Manhattan mod, which is not a direct to battery mech.
 
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OK, folks, my :2c:. 1) SMPL is a big no-no, no matter what kind of topper you put on it. They're lucky it didn't blow before. This is especially true of RTAs or tanks in general. Some drippers have a long enough positive pin you'll get away with it for a while-- until you dent the top of the battery-- but basically, any time you use a SMPL or any other faux hybrid mech, it's a pipe bomb looking for the spot marked X. 2) The battery is probably not involved, or only peripherally. Dollars to donuts it shorted from the battery positive patch to the atty negative 510 outer. There's no battery in the world that will tolerate that. 3) @roxynoodle is right: the battery vented, not exploded. And she's right again: that battery doesn't rate anywhere near 40 amps. If it is truly a 3500 mAh battery, I doubt it's greater than 15 for CDR. It might be 10. Or 5. Query: do we know the value of the coil that was in the machine? I repeat I don't think it was the coil overloading the battery; I'd bet long odds on a short at the 510. 4) Our resident battery guru, @Mooch , has not tested this battery. He has tested the Basen 2500 mAh which also said 40 amps on the label. Mooch rates that one at 20 amps. I do not believe a battery with 1000 more mAh has a better rating. 5) Finally, I apologize for the delay in my response; I was working late tonite.
 

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Note also this photo:
smpl-510x450.jpg

While the mod in question does look like a faux hybrid, it is not a SMPL, or not a real one because the button graphic is different. It just about has to be a Faux hybrid by the thinness of the top cap. But it's probably not this one.
 

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Ah that thing to the left is the switch. Button looks like the one from the Manhattan. Anything but a recessed button gets ignored with me so I am not sure on the mod.

Edit - I believe it is a Manhattan mod, which is not a direct to battery mech. Specifically the FU version. Hard to tell without a straight shot of the button engraving.
 

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Note also this photo:
smpl-510x450.jpg

While the mod in question does look like a faux hybrid, it is not a SMPL, or not a real one because the button graphic is different. It just about has to be a Faux hybrid by the thinness of the top cap. But it's probably not this one.
Please explain Faux Hybrid!
 

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That's a Subtank mini in the vented battery & mod picture.
prebuilt coils only come as .5, 1.2 or 1.5Ω not 2.5
My friend was frazzled this morning as this happened last night and he hadn't gotten any sleep before third shift he started last to work last week he may have misspoke & I didn't catch it because I wasn't aware that it was a STM when he told me!
 

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Please explain Faux Hybrid!
A Faux Hybrid mod is one that uses a 510 connection and still allows a direct atty-battery connection. Here's a photo of the type, which happens to be a REM:
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Another way of defining it would be any 510 connection mod that does not have a 510 center pin in the mod itself.

A True Hybrid doesn't have much to do with the mod itself, it's in the atty, and it will fit on any properly threaded tube although battery rattle adjustment might be problematic on some of them. Here's a photo of the atty type; it's a Fakir's Mods Troy two and I just ordered one for Christmas. It's not here yet :-(
Troy2X-1-510x652.jpg

Note the threads at the bottom perimeter of the atty. Those threads are m20 x 1 (actually, that's pretty standard), and they screw directly into the top of the mod tube after the top cap containing the 510 connection has been removed. They are much safer because the positive and negative contacts are not so close together: horizontally they are separated by the radius of the atty minus the radius of the positive pin; and vertically by whatever distance the pin protrudes from the insulator. Much, much better than the close positive/negative relationship on a 510 connector, where the positive is the center and the negative is the outer edges, and both near the same length. FYI, the disc with the hole in the middle next to the atty is a converter plate that makes the atty work on a 510 connection.
 

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Ah that thing to the left is the switch. Button looks like the one from the Manhattan. Anything but a recessed button gets ignored with me so I am not sure on the mod.

Edit - I believe it is a Manhattan mod, which is not a direct to battery mech. Specifically the FU version. Hard to tell without a straight shot of the button engraving.
Perhaps. And if so, then my explanation is wrong and something else happened. But note the photo: the top cap on the mod is very thin for it to not be a faux hybrid.
 
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