Long term exposure to alcohol vapor can lead to nerve damage, lung damage, and death. I would definitely caution against long term or frequent vaping of alcohol. I don't care which vendors are using alcohol in their liquid, it isn't a good idea.
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The difference between essential oil therapy and vaping is pretty big. The oil is usually heated to just over 100 degrees Fahrenheit using a very small flame or hot rocks. It is then allowed to diffuse in the atmosphere. When vaping the oil can be heated to over 100 degrees celsius and is then inhaled directly into the mouth and lungs. You are getting much more of the chemical in the atmosphere (your mouth) and then into your respiratory pathways.
I'm not saying it is bad. I am saying that the two systems of delivery are so different that one should not be used to judge the other.
I'm not saying it is bad. I am saying that the two systems of delivery are so different that one should not be used to judge the other.
I am personally referring to the ethyl alcohol, "rubbing alcohol", and booze that some vendors use for cuttingvg or extracting from tobacco and other organic products.
Well, I don't think anyone is vaping isopropyl alcohol, not on purpose anyway. As for PGA or other booze, I'd be curious about the negatives. I mean, the percents of these are usually 1% or less in eliquid.
And while vaping essential oils is not the same as aromatherapy, generally they are much more volatile than other things we vape and would clear the lungs pretty quickly.
And while vaping essential oils is not the same as aromatherapy, generally they are much more volatile than other things we vape and would clear the lungs pretty quickly.
Several people clean their to coil clearo's by soaking them in ethyl and/or isopropyl alcohol. Even after a rinse some residue is possibly left in the wicks. Ethyl alcohol has been linked to memory loss, cancer, and liver disorders. Isopropyl alcohol hasn't really been tested for side effects with continued inhalation. It isn't really intended for use internally. So, repeated inhalations at over 100 degrees is iffy. It can lead to tightness of the chest, constricted breathing, and possibly nerve damage.
Such things may only make up 1% of a juice, but 3 or 4 milliliters over six months might lead to some side effects. I know I've vaped some liquids that had used alcohol for extracting. The one's that weren't properly evaporated left me short of breath and messed with my ability to concentrate. Those were name brand liquids.
Such things may only make up 1% of a juice, but 3 or 4 milliliters over six months might lead to some side effects. I know I've vaped some liquids that had used alcohol for extracting. The one's that weren't properly evaporated left me short of breath and messed with my ability to concentrate. Those were name brand liquids.
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you should never vape fish
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pure alcohols... or even a 70% iso, don't leave a residue. You just have to either let them air-out or rinse them thoroughly. I'd be interested in an actual study of inhalation of PGA in very low concentrations though.
I use alcohol in a few recipes ~1%. Never noticed any ill-effects. Is possible you were experiencing something else, no? Maybe some other ingredient or something else with their process.
I use alcohol in a few recipes ~1%. Never noticed any ill-effects. Is possible you were experiencing something else, no? Maybe some other ingredient or something else with their process.
It may have been a sensitivity to the alcohol. However, my wife could smell the alcohol when I opened the bottle and others have reported an alcohol taste when vaping the same liquid. It isn't a common complaint about the liquid but it is documented. (I don't want to name it outright because it is somewhat rare.)
I would like to see a lot more studies done on the additives in e-liquid. It would be nice to know how much harm reduction is occurring and which things truly need to be cut. I'm not really worried about pg because it has been used for a long time in all kinds of medical inhalers.
I personally don't vape oils, but I was referring to when people turn what we're not supposed to talk about here into an oil, not aromatherapy. I should have worded it much differently but didn't know how. Obviously using essential oils was misleading. Sorry about that.
Thank you for the information, and sorry folks for the error.
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Yes, snorting xanthan gum in water is also bad for you. It's just pretty much never going to happen. It's easy to inhale dry dust a little at a time, not so much the liquid. And it is still completely different from vaping.
Check the safety data sheets for PG and VG while you're at it. And then start checking the ones for flavoring components. The difference here is that they'll volatilize and get into your lungs through vaping, while xanthan gum will not.
Safety data sheets are not designed for consumers, they're designed for production workers, lab people, and first responders to be able to look up all potential hazards and educate themselves. Those hazards listed are not necessarily correlated with actual dangers, especially when a single substance is taken on its own regardless of levels, other chemicals present, environment, exposure...
Vinegar (acetic acid). I've inhaled tons of it canning pickles, and at much higher concentrations than vaping .
Oils - Having been a short order cook, I've inhaled lots of oil. I was so covered in oil at the end of a shift that I had to take my shoes off to drive home. They were so slippery I couldn't keep my foot on the clutch to shift (or the brake pedal).
While I agree that being aware and trying to control what's in anything ingested or inhaled, I also know that the air that I breath is often 100 times more hazardous than the comparatively small amount of vapor I inhale.
Oils - Having been a short order cook, I've inhaled lots of oil. I was so covered in oil at the end of a shift that I had to take my shoes off to drive home. They were so slippery I couldn't keep my foot on the clutch to shift (or the brake pedal).
While I agree that being aware and trying to control what's in anything ingested or inhaled, I also know that the air that I breath is often 100 times more hazardous than the comparatively small amount of vapor I inhale.
Essential oils are made up of the same molecules used to build flavors. This does mean that they can come with problematic allergens, but so can flavors -coughcoumarincough- and it's certainly not a wild new scary thing. Some of your flavors almost certainly have essential oils in them. If they don't, they absolutely have molecules which make up the greater part of one or more essential oils.
Coumarin often makes its way in food flavorings from cheap cinnamon and vanilla flavors -- and should be avoided.
And though caramel coloring appears to be a favorite with some, food colorings should generally be avoided. They're a non-functional component that only increases one's risk.
And though caramel coloring appears to be a favorite with some, food colorings should generally be avoided. They're a non-functional component that only increases one's risk.
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What is it, why should it be avoided, and what flavors have it?
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Here's some background info, Coumarin - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
It's been banned as a food additive in the US since the 1950's but finds it's way into foods via Tonka Beans from Mexican which are used for artificial vanilla flavors, and from cassia cinnamon (true cinnamon is Ceylon cinnamon). One product example is TFA's Horchata flavor which has over 10% Coumarin.
It's been banned as a food additive in the US since the 1950's but finds it's way into foods via Tonka Beans from Mexican which are used for artificial vanilla flavors, and from cassia cinnamon (true cinnamon is Ceylon cinnamon). One product example is TFA's Horchata flavor which has over 10% Coumarin.
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