Initial Review: Greencig G300 2 piece e-cig

[lotus14]

Great review wegster. Thanks for taking the time to do such a thorough job

Like TB, for me the price of the carts is the big problem. Given the way these carts are constructed it's not surprising they'd cost a bit more, but they'd have to be dripped or refilled a lot to even out.

Just looking at Drew's prices for everything else on his site, I'm sure we can trust he'll give us the best price he can work out on these.

I just hope he doesn't run out of 'em!

 

[wegster]

I have to say it was alittle long but well done...

Fine, the short condensed versions now up, link in first thread

Personally, the cart construction and comparisons are interesting to me, as you know, I'm not really a 'KR fan' so much at the moment, or at least of the carts. And....neither the KR nor the Greencig have a USB passthrough, except now..they do, the U9 passthrough

Anyways, to be revisited in a week or so on the e-cig itself, will update on cart life as able to.

 

[ditc]

Fantastic review Wegster, thanks for the in-depth stuff! I personally love the 2-piece design, but am totally turned off by that lime green led color, and a 3 second cutoff certainly won't do it for me. I am all for getting a cart @ 3$ a pop IF I know that each one will last me at least twice as long as a Vapor King cart (both with initial use and the longevity use of being able to drip) as well as the ease of being able to drip. But at the end of the day, the most important thing to me is safety. If these things don't burn up on the inside like the Vapor Kings, then it sounds like it's healthier and would give me peace of mind,, but still, WHAT IS THAT HAIR? That's really weirding me out,,, can someone get an exact answer on what that actually is? And also, not sure if you mentioned this and I missed it,, but, how is the comparison of throat hit between a greencig cart and vapor king cart, using a vapor king battery, and presumably, the same strength and flavor juice on both?

 

[Kelemvor]

hello,

i am just going aware that you guys are a bit behind about those G300 cigs.
they are called V3 here in germany and sluma made a little video on the refilling of those carts. its on youtube and in german but he did a great job, i bet you get how its done:

YouTube - Refill VR 1 - 3

he shows 2 ways to do it, one quick and dirty, the other with a complete disassemble of the cart.

btw he used 0.5-0.6ml of juice.

in the 2nd way to do its important to mark or remember the position of the inner cart. otherwise it won't work.

 

[wegster]

@ditc - throat hit is comparable when on the same KR battery. The flavor is different, and I don't believe the VK/KR carts and the GC carts are made from the same manufacturer. Still working on longevity..when refilled obviously the throat hit and vapor has more to do with what liquid you've added.

 

[wegster]

Kelemvor - great video, thank you. Would love to know what he's saying. So, I did mention a pinhole in the back of the inner cart previously, which seems the video is confirming, or is he opening it up first with the heated rod?

I've only disassembled one of these so far, which I pretty much ripped apart, as at first, I'd thought the mouthpiece side of the inner cart was actually a plug, so didn't try to slide it out the back, but certainly will, as that would allow more proper fluid levels. Although, having said that, I bet dripping from the battery end can come pretty close to filling it properly, once you get some familiarity with the cart as to how much it will take, and if it's overfilled a bit, you can still blow it out and let sit to drain the excess (so it's a bit wasteful).

Again, thanks for the video..gives us another thing to try..those mouthpiece caps really are in there well, I need to find something stiffer to consistently get them to pull out easily.

 

[Philip]

I just took an empty one apart and managed to get the cart out which looked pretty dry and put 16 small drops from a Janty dropper bottle which filled it to the top.

I wish I knew where he got that tool from as it's not easy taken these apart without making a bit of a mess of the end of the cartidge.

 

[wegster]

Hmm. Ok, I did manage to pull another apart, but...any idea what the 'tool' he uses it to slide the cart out? I tore up the cart slightly doing it, as I don't have anything think enough, with a slight 'hook' like he uses to slide into the cart 'cut off' side, the grab and slide it out. Used a long pair of tweezers, but they'd bend, so it was 'fiddly.' Got it back together after filling with a syringe, works fine. Taste does seem to get slightly 'off' on these after a while, although hit may be I've been dripping a pair of carts with funky flavor differences - JC TN Cured, Drews vanilla, some RY4, and JC choc madness. Any idea what penstyle or mini tip he used? I had a few misc penstyle carts, but it's slightly too big in diameter to get into the GC cart end.

Now that we know we *can* get them entirely apart (well, at least get the cart out, refilled, and back in, if a bit fiddly without the right 'tool',) technically that also opens up the possibility of cleaning the atomizer. If the battery end can be unscrewed, even better, but if not, we should still be able to do a 'clean' with hydrogen peroxide and a 'free burn' with a manual adapter, or rinse with alcohol and distilled water, may help with changing flavors or keeping the carts burning better longer..if it's worth it, dunno yet. And oddly, there is a tiny hole in the video above on the back of the cart, but Peaches - no pinhole on the other cart I took apart

I also couldn't find anything in google on v3 e-cigarette. Any links to someone selling them, somewhere/anywhere?

I did see in one of his other videos, for those of you wondering about the 'hair,' this is for a 'VR4 e-cigar,' but the 'hair' wick is the same:
YouTube - Zusatztrick VR4

 

[wegster]

I just took an empty one apart and managed to get the cart out which looked pretty dry and put 16 small drops from a Janty dropper bottle which filled it to the top.

I wish I knew where he got that tool from as it's not easy taken these apart without making a bit of a mess of the end of the cartidge.

Exactly - I feel like I've seen them before, but I'm not sure of it's purpose... (the small flattened awl with a slight upturn). I had to 'crimp' my cart and back into roundness after disassembly/reassembly with a small pair of pliers.

Must go into garage..I can't believe there's a tool I'm not familiar with - work on my own cars, have built houses and remodeling, plumbing, change my motorcycle tires, but dunno what the heck that is. Anyone?

 

[dougp925]

great review Wegster. It looks like in all 4 videos that each time you pulled on the greencig battery, the vapor output was relatively dissapointing. I could even see it in your face. Occasionally you blew out next to nothing and then took another drag which was only slightly better. Using the E9 or KR batt showed much better results. I wonder if it is all about the cutoff or perhaps the greencig batts do not supply enough power under load(drawing). Some of the pulls you took with the other batts didn't seem that much longer, but you got much more vapor.

The greencig batts could have weaker batt cells which may cause a voltage droop while under load. If you have a voltmeter around, I would be curious what the voltage readings would be of the greencig batt while under load. Might be difficult to do though, you'd have to connect to the battery contacts and then blow into the led side of the batt. Tough to do with cart connected, but I could rig it up, but readings when fully charged and readings when fully discharged could be interesting. My solarflare 2012 batts(SE, 103, rn4081, peewee) read 4.0v when fully charged. About what I would expect from a fully charged 3.7v batt. I wonder if the greencig is also a 3.7v batt. It looked really weak from your video.

Im a little dissapointed actually. I might buy a KR808d-1 and use the greencig carts on it. It seems like the best setup as of now. Too bad I returned my E9's when Drew said they would not fit the Greencig carts. Oh well, it sounds like the grencig carts fit a little better on the 808 batts from what you've shown. Again, thanks for all the great info.
-Doug

 

[Kelemvor]

Must go into garage..I can't believe there's a tool I'm not familiar with - work on my own cars, have built houses and remodeling, plumbing, change my motorcycle tires, but dunno what the heck that is. Anyone?

look in the kitchen. where these cooking tools are. they are used to pin pieces of meat, onions and paprika on them.

the VR4 is from vinirette germany

www.vinirette.com

i thought they are the same as greencig, but greencig has no pipe and cigar ?!?

 

[Peaches]

look in the kitchen. where these cooking tools are. they are used to pin pieces of meat, onions and paprika on them.

Amazon.com: stainless skewers - Home & Garden

Which one is the best to order?

 

[wegster]

Hi Doug,

My DVM is kaput at moment, but needs to be replaced anyways. Yes, lol, I'm not surprised you caught the 'WTF?' look a few times when playing with the GC batteries, but..

I also had a bit of an issue in telling when the GC carts were cutting out/in, so a time or two I'd try to do a 'double draw,' but it didn't really disengage before I'd be on the second puff, so the second puff net was nothing. I just don't like the batteries, really.

The GC carts fit wonderfully on the KR batts - it's like an adjustable draw. Many e-cigs have too *light* of a draw for me..dunno what analogs people are smoking that some seem to think they're like an empty straw, but I always pack mine...for the KR batteries (2 hole, at least), you spin the cart on all the way, then ease off 1/6th-1/8th of a turn, and 'adjust for draw.' It's on the battery quite solidly. The only 'advantage' on the e9 is the u9 pass-through.

I'm limited for the most part to weekends for the next few weeks for 'free time,' but I need to replace the KVM for other projects, will update as able to RE: voltage.

 

[wegster]

look in the kitchen. where these cooking tools are. they are used to pin pieces of meat, onions and paprika on them.

the VR4 is from vinirette germany

Vinirette.de die andere Art zu Rauchen

i thought they are the same as greencig, but greencig has no pipe and cigar ?!?

Awesome, thank you. The VR3 is indeed greencig, you can check the pics here:
Vinirette.de die andere Art zu Rauchen - Vinirette VR3 Mini E-Zigarette Set 1 VR3S1
(bottom of page).

Interesting, they're selling the carts for $25USD (18 Euros) currently, which includes 19% VAT, so really, just over $20USD.

And Would have never thought of cooking utensils.

Peaches - I'd guess I'd find the smallest length, or the thickness will likely be too much, I'm guessing 6" or so.

 

[dougp925]

Wegster, Just found out some very interesting info about the "Hair" you've found inside the greencig atomiser. Today I dissected a smoking everywhere atomiser and a solarflare 2012 atomizers.(Both are dse103, peewee, rn4081, npro style attys) I cut them in half using a dremel and interestingly enough, the heating coil is wound around a hair like material.

I'd been pulling peices of "Hair" out of my atts for past couple days wondring how it got in there. It was like 8 strands tied together at a time. Now I know where its coming from, the coil is wound around the hair. This "hair" holds up very well over an open flame too, nothing like real hair. This must help the atty vaporize fluid, the hair draws the fluid into the center of the coil from the metail braid to help maximize vapor production. This must work in conjustion with tiny droplets of fluid passing over the outside of the coil when you pull on it. So I guess we've had hair in our attys all along , it just looks like greencig uses alot of it which is smart because it really seems to wick very well.
-Doug

 

[RsL]

I used another greencig cart on my KR808D-1 battery today. I got 100 good 7 second drags out of it. Not bad, now if the price was only better....

 

[Hangar]

can you drip into the batt end (and does that work well enough?) like we can with a KR cart?

...and yea, the price of the GC carts needs to drop to around $1.50 per piece (instead of its current $3 rape tag) before itll be a mass appeal item. If you could actually get 400 long drags out of a cart then the $3 would be fair IMO...but thatll never happen, hehe.

 

[wegster]

@Doug good info - you don't have the GC carts as of yet though, right?

@Rsl - that seems roughly right going by 'feel.' Just been tough to count for me start to finish, and I've been topping off.

Do you notice a flavor difference then, before you stopped on the last cart? Have you refilled it yet? Curious as to experience on refilling them (I've done it a few times now, but mostly via dripping.)

 

[wegster]

@Hangar - yes, see rest of thread, and videos...you can drip into the battery end, it's a straight shot to the coil. You can try to drip 'fill' like the KRs, or drip more like a 3 piece, and just drop a few drops at a time, have done both so far..

 

[lotus14]

can you drip into the batt end (and does that work well enough?) like we can with a KR cart?

...and yea, the price of the GC carts needs to drop to around $1.50 per piece (instead of its current $3 rape tag) before itll be a mass appeal item. If you could actually get 400 long drags out of a cart then the $3 would be fair IMO...but thatll never happen, hehe.

Never is a long time ;-) Drew's already dropped it to 2.70 and with the SAVEinNJ coupon code you get 10%. Takes it down to 2.43 now. Over $100 is free shipping. Drew's moving in the right direction, and he often puts a cherry on top. All the other prices on his site are very competitive, so I think it'll keep getting better.

And yes, I'm very curious to see how many refills I can get from these. Judging from the German video it looks like it might not be too much trouble to even clean 'em and start over again.