Innokin announces temp control
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(((Looks at his row of box mods))) Haven't used a tube in ages........................................
Nope nope nope.....
Ah terrible joking aside, given this company that makes good devices. But what bothers me is dat price tag they are awfully fond of.
Ah terrible joking aside, given this company that makes good devices. But what bothers me is dat price tag they are awfully fond of.
One of the Innokin reps said on Reddit that he has personally used TC with Kanthal and it works and is accurate. He can't release how it works because of potential IP theft, but he said it is nothing like Smok's M-80 (which as we all know was a sham). He said people have already tried to steal the IP so they are keeping it a secret until release dates get closer.
I remain skeptical that it can work with kanthal, but we'll see. Innokin usually doesn't make nonsensical claims since they are known to be an above board company with a good reputation, so if they say they have it working I am inclined to believe them. However, if they have found a way, it certainly wont be by reading the resistance.
Makes me wonder if Evolv had any input on the design. Innokin and Evolv struck a deal last year where Evolv chips were going to be used in some Innokin devices (this doesn't appear to be an Evolv chip, though).
I remain skeptical that it can work with kanthal, but we'll see. Innokin usually doesn't make nonsensical claims since they are known to be an above board company with a good reputation, so if they say they have it working I am inclined to believe them. However, if they have found a way, it certainly wont be by reading the resistance.
Makes me wonder if Evolv had any input on the design. Innokin and Evolv struck a deal last year where Evolv chips were going to be used in some Innokin devices (this doesn't appear to be an Evolv chip, though).
Yep, and this is why i'm gonna keep calling BS on this (and the iJoy one) TPing with Kanthal until they serve me a crow dinner, in the form of a respectable reviewer proving it works.
Yeah, the iJoy one looks suspicious to me. But this is Innokin -- a company that Evolv entered a partnership with because they don't rip people off and actually innovate. If Innokin says they have it working, I am inclined to believe it until someone proves it doesn't work.
I suspect they are using some sort of thermister on the coil itself. They probably have a clever way of attaching it to the positive pin with instructions for how to place the sensor itself inside built coil. Or perhaps their iSub (or other tanks) have it built in and this device is designed to only be used with those attys. One of these two scenarios is my guess.
Agreed, and the fact that it's Innokin saying is the only thing that gives me pause. They generally don't talk out their @#$. Making it even more confusing, imo, is the fact the Innokin has always been slightly behind the curve with their chips, even when they partnered with evolv, that chip was semi-underpowered when it finally hit the market. Now whether that was evolvs fault or innokins fault, who knows. Then Innokin appears, claiming to have, basically, the most advanced chip ever made....weird.
Even in the best case scenario, like you describe above, and they've figured out a way to make it work, i don't see how they can do it without many extra/specialized components.
I'll preheat the oven.
I was thinking thermistor too but their response time, even for the tiniest ones, is several seconds. I don't think they can be used for TC. Then I was thinking thermocouple. Faster response time but fast enough? I guess as long as the response time is as fast or faster than the coil it could work?
Another possibility is a thermopile. There are a couple of absolutely tiny ones out there now for no-contact temp sensing. But where to put it and how to keep juice off it? And those things are expensive.
[edit] Your sensor-in-tank idea makes sense. A lot easier to ensure consistent temp readings. Hmm...they'll need some way to connect to one or two wires coming from the tank sensor though. How do you align the contacts and keep them juice free?
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I'm liking the small size!
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This is a very interesting. Can't wait to see how it works. Wonder if it's something clever or something obvious that will make us say "now why didn't I think of that?"
I'm liking the small size!
Size is great.
Ugly as sin though, imo.
This is a very interesting. Can't wait to see how it works. Wonder if it's something clever or something obvious that will make us say "now why didn't I think of that?"
I'm liking the small size!
I like it.
Looks heavy duty as always with Innokin.
Eric
Could just be a very good resistance sensor. Kanthal's coefficient is tiny, but it isn't non-existent.
Here is the link to the temperature control unit
Temperature Control 200w snow wolf box mod Snowwolf 200 for Super Sub ohm Tank, View Snowwolf 200, Snow wolf Product Details from Shenzhen Brosvapor Technology Co., Ltd. on Alibaba.com
Temperature Control 200w snow wolf box mod Snowwolf 200 for Super Sub ohm Tank, View Snowwolf 200, Snow wolf Product Details from Shenzhen Brosvapor Technology Co., Ltd. on Alibaba.com
"Love voltage protection"...I don't know what that is but it sure sounds like the world would be a better place if it was a feature on every device out there.
Innokin Paul posted this as part of an edit on Reddit. It makes me wonder if the Innokin temperature technology requires proprietary toppers to work? Would the toppers be rebuildable?
I'm one of the few people who actually cares about a deadly consistent vape temperature and I'm generally fond of the Innokin products I've purchased so I'm seriously interested in what Innokin might be offering. However, toppers have not been Innokin's forté in my opinion.
It would be great if Innokin's temperature control would work with my favorite RDAs and RTAs but it's hard to envision how they could pull that off. Innokin Paul pointedly ignored those comments/questions on his Reddit PR announcement thre.
Here is a photo of the iSub TC which uses Innokin Temperature Control.
I'm one of the few people who actually cares about a deadly consistent vape temperature and I'm generally fond of the Innokin products I've purchased so I'm seriously interested in what Innokin might be offering. However, toppers have not been Innokin's forté in my opinion.
It would be great if Innokin's temperature control would work with my favorite RDAs and RTAs but it's hard to envision how they could pull that off. Innokin Paul pointedly ignored those comments/questions on his Reddit PR announcement thre.
I think it must be true that their RTAs are modified for their TC tech with an additional sensor. In which case I will pass on this one as I doubt the advantages of their system over DNA40/SX350J approaches outweigh the restriction on using their tanks and their tanks only.Innokin Paul posted this as part of an edit on Reddit. It makes me wonder if the Innokin temperature technology requires proprietary toppers to work? Would the toppers be rebuildable?
Here is a photo of the iSub TC which uses Innokin Temperature Control.
I'm one of the few people who actually cares about a deadly consistent vape temperature and I'm generally fond of the Innokin products I've purchased so I'm seriously interested in what Innokin might be offering. However, toppers have not been Innokin's forté in my opinion.
It would be great if Innokin's temperature control would work with my favorite RDAs and RTAs but it's hard to envision how they could pull that off. Innokin Paul pointedly ignored those comments/questions on his Reddit PR announcement thre.
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