Innokin Owners Group Thread

[gerrymi]

If it can survive a few months of the torture test that is being my main vape , it will probably replace my MVP's for much of my carry needs that need a little more mah than the VV's give.

MVP, Coolfire IV, I-stick 50, istick 30:

GREAT comparison pictures Capt...Thanx for posting!

I'm a little cornfused about your "carry needs...more mAh" statement.

VV V3...800mAh

CF IV...2000mAh

istick 30...2200mAh

When you're headed out the door...and want more than 800mAh...why wouldn't you put your smaller, much lighter iStick 30 in your pocket???

 

[AndriaD]

GREAT comparison pictures Capt...Thanx for posting!

I'm a little cornfused about your "carry needs...more mAh" statement.

VV V3...800mAh

CF IV...2000mAh

iStick 30...2200mAh

When you're headed out the door...and want more than 800mAh...why wouldn't you put your smaller, much lighter iStick 30 in your pocket???

Excellent point, and I use my iStick30 all day long and the next morning when I recharge, it's never more than 2 of the "flashy squares" depleted. Marvelous battery life!

I got my CF IV... nice mod, but yeah, it's a bit heavy. The lanyard ring is hilarious; I can't imagine anyone and certainly no female wanting something that heavy banging them in the chest.

Andria

 

[awsum140]

The Cool Fire IV has a lanyard ring! Great. I just sort of ordered one and now I have a justification for it, LOL. s long as it's un a pound, no problem for me on a lanyard!

 

[AndriaD]

One thing I've come to love about Innokin products... the graceful way they put their logo/name/identifier on their products.

That nice little metal panel there, that's just elegant -- and on the silver ones like mine, it's not even terribly obvious. Contrast that with this tackiness:

That would be a great looking mod if it wasn't festooned like a sponsored race car. And just what the heck is that knob on the top? I can't figure it out no matter how I look at these things.

Even iStick does a better job than the much-vaunted Aspire:

and the eleaf logo is on the other side, just as small and tidy.

I had this same problem with some of the smok cartotanks, the pyrex ones... if I'm going to use a product so taken over with the name of company that made it, they should pay ME, not charge me for it.

Andria

 

[Panorama911]

hat would be a great looking mod if it wasn't festooned like a sponsored race car. And just what the heck is that knob on the top? I can't figure it out no matter how I look at these things.

Power adjustment knob thingamajig

 

[Capt.shay]

GREAT comparison pictures Capt...Thanx for posting!

I'm a little cornfused about your "carry needs...more mAh" statement.

VV V3...800mAh

CF IV...2000mAh

iStick 30...2200mAh

When you're headed out the door...and want more than 800mAh...why wouldn't you put your smaller, much lighter iStick 30 in your pocket???

I wouldn't even try to let an IStick live in my pocket. That thing would be dead in a week. I have very little confidence in their durability. I have seen/heard of many problems with these units. Not catastrophic failures like the 20 and 50 but they just seem to stop working if abused. I have handled and used both (and many, many others) and in this price range, Innokin wins the quality and durability battle hands down. Of course, time will tell with the CFIV as it is a brand new release but it appears by all outward appearances to be up to Innokin's expected level of quality. It's the attention to detail that sorts out the cornfusion.

 

[Panorama911]

I am still waiting to see something like this for PV's....this one is for harmonicas. Formally called a neck rack...

 

[AndriaD]

Power adjustment knob thingamajig

OIC... silly me, I wondered where the buttons for that were.

Andria

 

[motordude]

That will be great for someone with vaper's elbow.

 

[AndriaD]

I wouldn't even try to let an IStick live in my pocket. That thing would be dead in a week. I have very little confidence in their durability. I have seen/heard of many problems with these units. Not catastrophic failures like the 20 and 50 but they just seem to stop working if abused. I have handled and used both (and many, many others) and in this price range, Innokin wins the quality and durability battle hands down. Of course, time will tell with the CFIV as it is a brand new release but it appears by all outward appearances to be up to Innokin's expected level of quality. It's the attention to detail that sorts out the cornfusion.

I dropped my pink iStick30 twice, the first day I had it. It works just fine, for about 2 months now.

Andria

 

[Panorama911]

That will be great for someone with vaper's elbow.

Or a multitask-er

 

[awsum140]

I've had an iStick 20 since they came out and it's been dropped more than a few times. I did have to replace the top cap because of the crappy 510 connector wearing out, but it's still working like a champ. My iStick 30 is only a month old and has been dropped twice, that I remember. Still works like it did when I got it.

Inside, there's a little plastic rod/bar the goes from the outside button to the actual switch on the circuit board. If that falls out or becomes mis-aligned, it'll stop working without question, but it's an easy fix IF you have the right torx driver.

My VTRs both died. One was a year an a half old and I had to replace that rotating 510 connector when that went. The other one didn't even last a week, very disappointing. I'm working on converting them both to DNA25s.

Overall, Innokin makes nice equipment but they do seem to miss on some of the details. The crappy plating on the original VV/VW with the interchangeable head rendered them useless pretty quickly, and that was a great concept...just poor execution.

 

[Capt.shay]

I dropped my pink iStick30 twice, the first day I had it. It works just fine, for about 2 months now.

Andria

I drop mine twice in two minutes. I'm a landscaper by day and an outdoor enthusiast any other time Anything that lives with me takes a severe beating. Just because there are many still out there running doesn't make up for the fact that so many of them have been reported dead. There are still Yugo's out there running but that doesn't meen they were good cars.

Can you honestly say that you feel your istick is built as well as your VV's? I have handled both and there is no question in my mind that Innokin builds a stronger product.

 

[AndriaD]

I drop mine twice in two minutes. I'm a landscaper by day and an outdoor enthusiast any other time Anything that lives with me takes a severe beating. Just because there are many still out there running doesn't make up for the fact that so many of them have been reported dead. There are still Yugo's out there running but that doesn't meen they were good cars.

Can you honestly say that you feel your istick is built as well as your VV's? I have handled both and there is no question in my mind that Innokin builds a stronger product.

Yes indeed. For one major thing, I don't have to pop the battery post up as I have to do now with ALL my vv3s. I got so tired of that, I don't even use them for utility mods anymore -- got tired of seeing "non" for a perfectly good coil everytime I put a new thing on a vv3.

And though some have said that the buttons rattle on the iSticks.. heh.. they really oughta hear a vv3's rattle before they get all upsot by any rattle from the iSticks -- I really haven't heard any rattling from either of mine.

Also -- I just got my CoolFire 4, and it lacks a couple of features that the iStick has -- 1) only increasing wattage by .5 increments -- the iSticks will go in .1 increments, and 2) real-time ohm checking -- you can actually watch the ohms changing on an iStick, if the coil is doing anything weird -- with the CF, it shows the resistance at the time you pressed the button, exactly like the vv3's, but not real-time as the iStick does.

Both are cheap devices and probably have similar manufacturing standards; the only major improvement I find in the CF is the 15sec cutoff rather than 10sec cutoff.

But there's definitely something wrong with the 50w iSticks.

Andria

 

[VapieDan]

One thing I've come to love about Innokin products... the graceful way they put their logo/name/identifier on their products.

That nice little metal panel there, that's just elegant -- and on the silver ones like mine, it's not even terribly obvious. Contrast that with this tackiness:

That would be a great looking mod if it wasn't festooned like a sponsored race car. And just what the heck is that knob on the top? I can't figure it out no matter how I look at these things.

Even iStick does a better job than the much-vaunted Aspire:

and the eleaf logo is on the other side, just as small and tidy.

I had this same problem with some of the smok cartotanks, the pyrex ones... if I'm going to use a product so taken over with the name of company that made it, they should pay ME, not charge me for it.

Andria

I'm sorry the Eleaf is just plain ugly

 

[Jaguar G]

Looking at the Innokin iTaste MVP 3.0 Pro 60W. I like the CF-IV, just not the battery life with chain vaping.

Anyone have one? Any issues with these or are they as the youtubers say? I don't plan to go to 60W but that 4500 mAh would last a long time.

 

[Capt.shay]

Well, I'm kind of comparing two products that I admittedly don't have a lot of time on yet and I'm being a bit of a fan boy as well but I will respectfully disagree on the build quality. I am quite certain I could use a MVP or my new CFIV to pound and iStick in to an iPile. Try it the other way around and I think you would still end up with an iPile.

I have read more reports on here of Isticks just dying than I think I have read about any other major device. I will undoubtedly abuse any device I carry and I need something that can take a hit. I feel the CFIV can do that.

As far as the CFIV itself, both your points are kind of non-issues for me. I have .1 increments on my SVD but I almost always bump it around .5 in order to feel a real change. I could always go in to voltage mode and fine adjust it that way if I was really picky (but I'm not). As far as the resistance reading, I just don't know if that matters to me at all. I really can't think of how I could even read it while firing? I guess I have never had that option so meh' just doesn't seem all that usefull.

The things I don't like so far? Not to much. Of course there is the elephant in the room that no one seem to be talking about and that is the disappointing 2000 Mah reservoir. Others (iStick in particular) have been able to pack a lot more in to a lot smaller and I think Innokin needs to source some higher capacity cells. Then there is the weight. Just seems like it could be lighter. I am looking forward to opening one of these up and maybe taking the dremell to it for a little weight loss. The final thing is the flip screen function is just a PIA and needs to be deleted or made harder to inadvertently flip the screen.

 

[PaulBHC]

According to PhilB the CF4 uses the same cell as the iStick but Innokin chose to list it as a 2000mah.

Also noted in his review, the step down is PWM (RMS) at about 100 cycles up to 20w.

 

[AndriaD]

Well, I'm kind of comparing two products that I admittedly don't have a lot of time on yet and I'm being a bit of a fan boy as well but I will respectfully disagree on the build quality. I am quite certain I could use a MVP or my new CFIV to pound and iStick in to an iPile. Try it the other way around and I think you would still end up with an iPile.

I have read more reports on here of Isticks just dying than I think I have read about any other major device. I will undoubtedly abuse any device I carry and I need something that can take a hit. I feel the CFIV can do that.

As far as the CFIV itself, both your points are kind of non-issues for me. I have .1 increments on my SVD but I almost always bump it around .5 in order to feel a real change. I could always go in to voltage mode and fine adjust it that way if I was really picky (but I'm not). As far as the resistance reading, I just don't know if that matters to me at all. I really can't think of how I could even read it while firing? I guess I have never had that option so meh' just doesn't seem all that usefull.

The things I don't like so far? Not to much. Of course there is the elephant in the room that no one seem to be talking about and that is the disappointing 2000 Mah reservoir. Others (iStick in particular) have been able to pack a lot more in to a lot smaller and I think Innokin needs to source some higher capacity cells. Then there is the weight. Just seems like it could be lighter. I am looking forward to opening one of these up and maybe taking the dremell to it for a little weight loss. The final thing is the flip screen function is just a PIA and needs to be deleted or made harder to inadvertently flip the screen.

The thing about the real-time ohms reading... you don't have to be firing it, to see it changing -- tap the fire button, it shows the wattage, and over to the side, the ohms and volts. When some of my coils are doing odd things, you can watch it happening on that reader, the fluctuations. The screen stays lit longer on the iStick too, which is useful if you're monitoring a coil. Some might call that a downside, for using up the battery faster, but a whole day's use only takes 2 of the flashy squares, so it can't have that big an impact. I do enjoy the .1 increments; I've always found 10.5 just a bit much, but there are times when 10w just isn't quite getting it done; I can bump it to 10.2 or 10.3, get a slight improvement without going too far, which 10.5w pretty much seems to be. And I love its small size; I wasn't sure I would, since up till the iStick, all I'd used were tube mods, or the vv3s, but I really do like that about the iStick30s.

On the new CF IV... I like that the ohms are shown as x.xx instead of just x.x. I like the 15sec cutoff for one of my tanks. And I love the way it looks, and feels in my hand; my hand/arm don't object to the weight, but as I said, the idea of putting that weight on a lanyard and having it bump me in the chest constantly is just painful. And of course I like that it's an Innokin; I know those are good products; my vv3s are annoying with that battery-post problem, but they all still work, at 15 months, 1 year, and about 8 months respectively. Considering how inexpensive they were, and that that first one was my ONLY mod for some 3 months of heavy chainvaping, I'd call that pretty remarkable, excellent quality.

Andria

 

[caroloto]

New release video today.

"Published on Jun 9, 2015
Nichrome, Titanium wires tests with the Innokin Temperature Control Technology ( ITC )
Every flavor has its own perfect temperature and with Innokin Temperature control you’ll experience premium flavors the way they were meant to be vaped and enjoyed. "