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CtryBoy

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Still working on making e cig's fit my routine without breaking the bank on all the new toys begging to join my growing collection.

One item that has caught my eye is called a insulin wallet. Found these while looking for the perfect travel case for my new goodies. They keep contents (in this case e-liq not insulin) between 60-70 degrees F even in the 100+ degree scorchers in my neck of the woods.

Is this cool enough to keep e-liq (nicotine) from degrading due to heat or do I have to keep my bottle in the cooler when I'm out on the lake, etc?

Maybe I'm being too paranoid trying to protect my new juice, but around here you cant take the heat for granted. How sensitive is e liq to high temps when working or playing outdoors?
 

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I've heard of others using insulin wallets for their goodies, never realized that they keep temps down! May have to get one myself for trips, etc.

To answer your question, it should work great. Temps around 60 and out of direct sunlight are recommended. You can keep it colder, but really no need to my knowledge. High temps will cause the juice to degrade quickly though.

Thanks for the great idea!
 

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Googled Insulin wallet and found this: Frio Individual Insulin Wallet

Not real cheap at $23, but cheaper than the other few I saw. Very easy to use too, just dip the liner in water to activate and it stays cold for 45hrs.

CtryBoy, if you're out on the lake, you probably wouldn't need this (there) since you're probably gonna have a cooler full of ice cold beverages anyway. Be awesome on a hike or camping trip.
 

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Maybe I'm being too paranoid trying to protect my new juice, but around here you cant take the heat for granted. How sensitive is e liq to high temps when working or playing outdoors?

I really don't think your going to see a huge break down in your juice from a walking around on a 100 degree day.

Not sure just how much juice you are toating around? But If I have to carry juice, which I don't do much - I carry cartomizers, I just put 3ml or so in a 5ml bottle.
 

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Googled Insulin wallet and found this:

Not real cheap at $23, but cheaper than the other few I saw. Very easy to use too, just dip the liner in water to activate and it stays cold for 45hrs.

CtryBoy, if you're out on the lake, you probably wouldn't need this (there) since you're probably gonna have a cooler full of ice cold beverages anyway. Be awesome on a hike or camping trip.

They seem reasonable and not much more than a similar cd/usb/etc case plus cooling. Ended up on my 'wish' list as I hunted a good extended travel pack. The 45 hrs beats a cooler hands down and dont have to worry about getting everything soaking wet or crushed between the six pack. A carry case that I dont have to worry about for a day or two sounded like a no brainer. Just cautious about spending any more money right now. Closing in on $200 already and only two weeks in.

I'd like to learn more about e-liquid spoiling. How long - how warm -how does it degrade (taste or nic or both). I could learn by trial and error, but if there is something I could read that would be better ;) Thanks

Nicotine degradation was my main concern since I'm currently using unflavored VG till the taste buds come back. Trial and error might work for taste, but unless it made 36 mg turn into 0 mg, dont think you'd be able to tell. Guess what I was trying to determine is how sensitive nicotine is to heat. Is it like a cup of ice cream which quickly changes or potato salad which may not taste great after an hour in the car but will still be potato salad.

I really don't think your going to see a huge break down in your juice from a walking around on a 100 degree day.

Not sure just how much juice you are toating around? But If I have to carry juice, which I don't do much - I carry cartomizers, I just put 3ml or so in a 5ml bottle.

I'm committed to making this work for me (and hopefully my mother). So the key I believe is to make it as worry free as having a pack of analogs handy.

Basic kit: (Around town maybe 24 hrs)
I'm thinking one ecig plus a spare cartomizer maybe in one of those little nitro pill cases. (18500 mod :D) Although may have to find a good PCC for my mom depending on her taste for mods.

Travel kit: (2 days to a week)
Things get a bit tricky. Batteries/10-20 ml of liquid. Both of which prefer to be kept cool. Remember around here it's 90+ for a large portion of the year and inside a parked vehicle temps quickly go through the roof. So while I was looking around for something to adapt to holding sufficient supplies I ran across the insulin wallets which seemed to kill two birds with one stone. Again in Texas you have to respect the heat and the last thing I want to do is have to fret over my stuff when I should be enjoying my trip/etc.

I want a kit that I can prep, store in fridge, and just grab and go. Throw it in the console and be able to vape without worry for extended time. Somewhere I read that one day in a hot car would kill your juice and although one day at elevated temp/full charge isnt going to kill batteries instantly not good day after day for longevity. Having a kit that could sit wherever I wanted to leave it seemed like it might be a good investment. Cause I'm just not into fanny packs or heaven forbid a man purse to tote a few days worth of gear.

But then again I'm only two weeks in and may be overestimating the amount of gear I need on hand to be able to vap away from home. Till you can buy eliq at the convenience store (for less than $2/ml), I know it'll be up to me to think ahead or I'll be out and tempted by the nasty call of the analog wall behind the counter.
 

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I like your attitude about making things work for you and possibly your Mother.

I've tell you this about how I feel when spending money on e-Cis stuff. I was spending about $200 a month on cigs. I wasn't sleeping good. My nose was always stuffed up. I'd get out of breath running up 2 flights of stairs and found it Very hard to go 3 hours without a smoke.

After moving to vaping. I sleep better. My nose is clear. I'm not out of breath and I can go without vaping and it doesn't kill me.

So even if I get alittle crazy and buy a bunch of e-Cig juice or things and spend less than $200 a month, I am Saving Money doing it.

Saving Money and Feeling better?

Sounds like a late night Infomercial. LOL
 

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Only would be an infomercial if you were overcharging for every single part/piece or if you were offering a free bonus.........s&h not included.

I swear these days I spend more of my time shopping online dodging scams and overpriced goodies. What ever happened to a quality product for a fair price, guess I'm not their idea of a proper consumer.

Switched for the savings, but looking forward to reviving my tastebuds, sense of smell, ability to run a mile or two.....well maybe not the last one. But ecigs are like anything else, if you're not careful you can spend a lot of money and not get the result you are looking for. But for around $200, I've accumulated enough stuff to keep me vaping for at least 6 months (assuming no equipment failures) and give my starter kit to my mom so she can join the glorious vape train. (I'm actually a little worried that I'll be unable to breath at mom's house if she cant quit smoking......now I know why the anti's were so passionate about banning smoking EVERYWHERE)
 

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I just wish I had found the ECF Before I started buying e-Cig starter kits.

My first kit was a Blu. It wasn't a rip-off or a scam. It just didn't work that well and the battery life was terrible. I bought 3 more kits and each one got better and better.

But I still wasn't at something that a battery could go most or all day. I didn't want to get a "screwdriver" looking PV. Just wanted something that lasted and didn't break the bank.

Then I saw an eGo and it seemed to have everything I needed. Worked with my 510 cartos. Near all day battery. Compact size.

So yeah, I spent more than I should have but No Where near what I would have in 6 months of burning analogs.

Wish I had gotten the eGo first buy hey, now a I have a backup for my backup for my backup if my eGo stops working.
 

CtryBoy

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Still havent found much as far a 'unbiased' reviews, lol, gotta love today's internet. Where every review on a vendor's site just beams at the almighty and ultimate item you are interested in.

Seems the main catch is the same a PV's. Use it properly and it should work, screw it up and all you get is a mess or more useless crap for the pile. Havent found anyone with them in stock local so can only squint at the tiny little pictures and try to imagine where things might fit. And ponder the few issues I've seen here and there about the cooling gel expanding too much and making things no longer fit in wallet or even worse getting gel/water on things in the wallet. :facepalm:I have enough trouble keeping the VG from sliming everything.

Main issue I have with these is they dont appear to be insulated in anyway from what I can tell. I know they need air flow so cant stick them in an insulated cooler or glove box and expect them to do their magic. But still cant quite picture them doing much good if they cant at least keep the coolness trapped when you pull the goodies out of the fridge. Again from what I can gather they are much like your average ECIG..........YMMV

At this point I think I'll have to concede that cooling may not be vital and If it will be necessary the few hours of 'REAL' cool you could get slipping a freezer pack into a sandwich sized cooler would get you through the hottest part of a trip and even when that ran out a layer of insulation would keep the heat at bay till you turned the a/c back on or got back indoors.

If you must hide your stash in the car at work and dont think want to mess with rotating freezer packs, they might do the trick and be worth the effort to master. Recharging would be a simple matter of soaking the gel pack and making sure there is airflow. Assuming it really does work as advertised and you can get it to work more than once (one of the few complaints I found was that it worked great the first time, but then they couldnt get it to work again or as effectively) Kinda like that PV battery that blew your socks off out of the box and now wont hold a charge for more than 30 min for some strange reason which was probably user error.

Also customer service may be an issue if you have an issue, so really want to find something local or may order online through Walgreens if I decide I gotta try it. Till then think I'll see if I have something at hand that can hold my freezer pack and a small supply for the road. Other option for extreme conditions is a thermos bottle with ice thrown in it but would have to give some thought to waterproofing anything other than dripper bottles or maybe use a flexible freezer pack.

Oh they do make regular insulin cases that use freezer packs if you dont believe the hype on the evaporative cooling gel packs or need something air tight/water tight for your particular conditions.
 

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I just wish I had found the ECF Before I started buying e-Cig starter kits.

My first kit was a Blu. It wasn't a rip-off or a scam. It just didn't work that well and the battery life was terrible. I bought 3 more kits and each one got better and better.

But I still wasn't at something that a battery could go most or all day. I didn't want to get a "screwdriver" looking PV. Just wanted something that lasted and didn't break the bank.

Then I saw an eGo and it seemed to have everything I needed. Worked with my 510 cartos. Near all day battery. Compact size.

So yeah, I spent more than I should have but No Where near what I would have in 6 months of burning analogs.

Wish I had gotten the eGo first buy hey, now a I have a backup for my backup for my backup if my eGo stops working.


I personally don't believe you can have too many backups LOL:D
 

CtryBoy

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I personally don't believe you can have too many backups LOL:D

Ok admittedly the guy that has 30 mega 510 batteries in the fridge might be taking backup to the survivalist extreme. But then again if the powers out for a week then he'll be the one laughing at me. I've purposefully raided my starter kit that I no longer intend to use and put an atty some cartridges etc back in case I fry my beloved stash of cartomizers. But given the new 5vpasstrhu I'm afraid a stash like that would have some serious shelf life issues.

Of course now that I've reminded myself of our utter dependence on at least routine access to electricity to keep the vaper flowing guess I'm gonna have to get that backup generator after all. 8-o
 

CtryBoy

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Ok admittedly the guy that has 30 mega 510 batteries in the fridge might be taking backup to the survivalist extreme. But then again if the powers out for a week then he'll be the one laughing at me. I've purposefully raided my starter kit that I no longer intend to use and put an atty some cartridges etc back in case I fry my beloved stash of cartomizers. But given the new 5vpasstrhu I'm afraid a stash like that would have some serious shelf life issues.

Of course now that I've reminded myself of our utter dependence on at least routine access to electricity to keep the vaper flowing guess I'm gonna have to get that backup generator after all. 8-o


But then my trusty extrasensory PV Accessory Radar kicked in and I found this
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equals :vapor:. Let the antinazis try and stop me now. :D
 
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