Insurance & employment

[nanovapr]

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Anybody know how/if insurers test if you'er a smoker after you pass away?

They could smell your clothes?

 

[evilferret]

They could smell your clothes?

Heh, more worried about if they can do any sort of blood test after you're deceased.

If e-cigs throw off the standard test could be a way for the insurance companies to get out of paying out.

 

[Cyrene]

What I am going to say, is probably not the most popular, but...
Right now, I am a full-time student. I know, I'm older, but got laid-off and went
back to school. Afterwards, I'm hoping to be able to start my own business, and
I do have some contacts to get me going. If I'm able to take on the 2 employees
I want to, they would be able to vape at their desk (not smoke analogs).

With all that said, e-cigs are going to
be more recognized by Insurance companies etc, but it makes me a bit mad, as
it still is a LEGAL product. Do they test people for alcohol? I think alcohol does as
much damage to the population as smoking. Now, I don't want to smoke much longer,
but I may never give up vaping. So I think it's a whole invasion of your own privacy
with a legal substance. I just think it's wrong.

 

[meli.]

Now...how long does it take to get the nic out of your system is the big question.

There appear to be no loopholes in this system.

Nicotine has a half life of 6–8 hours, meaning that it gradually accumulates over the course of the day, and decreases during the night.

Cotinine has a much longer half life than nicotine (up to 20 hours). Cotinine is further metabolised into trans-3'-hydroxycotinine, the main nicotine metabolite found in urine. Up to a third of nicotine by-products are eventually excreted in the urine.

Follow this link Nicotine / Cotinine for more detailed information.

 

[frosting]

Try my tutorial and don't let those fascist douche-bags dictate your body chemistry!

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/outside/108748-how-beat-nicotine-urinalysis-screening.html

That is an excellent tutorial and my respect for those willing to buck the system


Slightly funny story... Once upon a time I had to take a tinkle test for an employer. The first tinkle wasn't enough so she tossed it down the sink and effectively told me to "drink up and try again" aka.... completely dilute the possibility of finding anything! Now while I happened to be just fine and passable I still found this ironic. Why even make me go at it again? You're going to get a completely ineffective sample.

 

[Mac]

That is an excellent tutorial and my respect for those willing to buck the system

Thanks and amen to that.

Slightly funny story... Once upon a time I had to take a tinkle test for an employer. The first tinkle wasn't enough so she tossed it down the sink and effectively told me to "drink up and try again" aka.... completely dilute the possibility of finding anything! Now while I happened to be just fine and passable I still found this ironic. Why even make me go at it again? You're going to get a completely ineffective sample.

You are correct and that is funny.

 

[mostapha]

To the OP. I understand this job market. I'm insanely underemployed. But unless it's your last option I don't know that I'd work for a company that ridiculous.

Do they give a reason for the policy?