Integrity on the Vendor's Front........

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KjAthena

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unless you have deep pockets to defend domain purchases ... not worth the time to cybersquat domains.

Well since I legally own the name in my state there is nothing to defend. Comes down to the simple fact ...Just because I can legally can do something should I ? I own a business (not vape related and am VERY familiar with legal business practices...I have personally also had someone try and piggyback on my company name...done the whole court thing and know first hand what WORKS t o get rid of unethical businesses ) owning the name (here in my state )gives me all the protection I need
 
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Well since I legally own the name in my state there is nothing to defend. Comes down to the simple fact ...Just because I can legally can do something should I ?

All I am saying is ... if any of those names have Trademarks associated with them ... you can easily lose them with no reimbursement.
 

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All I am saying is ... if any of those names have Trademarks associated with them ... you can easily lose them with no reimbursement.

Ummm wrong assumption...they filed no trademarks(they are federal and I have confirmed they own none)...it appears they started on a shoestring, I am not even sure they filled as a an S corp yet....still checking on a few states databases. These people know little about operating a business or so it appears.
 

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they most defiantly will....no-one will be able to piggy back on a vendor that worked very hard for years developing and branding themselves as long as I own them. I am not involved with AiV except as a valued customer and maybe just maybe having battled for my businesses good name has made me extra sensitive to these issues.....it just seems that for lack of a simple internet search and the price of some business cards and labels a new company would wish to alienate so many.

I do prefer to believe that most people are good and honest and sincerely hope the mistakes that were made are corrected:vapor:
 

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After reading this thread, and then their posts on FB, I just can't believe them when they say that they didn't know.

Also, I'm pretty sure this FB post by them kind of says a lot about them as a company...
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Sigh, smh.
 
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Has anyone with links to the imitator sent the info to Alice? I did a quick google search and kept coming up with the real thing, even when I put quotes in. I think AiV needs to know, have proof and decide what action, if any, could or should be taken.

Yes, Alice in Vapeland is aware of the imitator and posted on the AiV forum here on ECF.

My dad owned a family business of several stores called "The Scandinavian", est. 1960. The original and main store was located on 5th Avenue in Scottsdale, Az., a high end shopping area that not only was a draw for tourists but thrived very well with the support of the locals. The business had been around for over 20 years. The customer service, and the selection of merchandise, plus the "experience" made the stores well known and thought of. My dad did everything a viable business does, member of the BBB, "5th Avenue Merchants Assoc.", Chamber of Commerce, corp status, licensing, advertising in select magazines and periodicals, etc., etc.
A distributor who sold to my dad thought they would lease a store front on that same avenue and open a store called "The Scandinavian Shop"...........they duplicated many of the same things my dad did, down to putting Scandinavian flags and director's chairs for weary husbands or smokers in the front of their store front.
The impostors were served a "Cease and Desist" order. They re-opened as "The European".
My dad wasn't worried about competition, he was protecting his good name and that of his business.

That's what it's about. A company's good name and their products.

Alice in Vapeland got past the 6 month "Thrive or Die" common to small business. They made a move to a larger facility, not just down the block, but across half the country, from Washington DC, to Albuquerque, New Mexico. Whoever runs their graphics and ad department is a genius, receiving a package from AiV is an "experience". Whether you love the juice or not, I don't think anyone out there can say that a box from AiV isn't something out of the ordinary. Their customer service is fantastic and their web site is very comprehensive.

Yes, I really love AiV. I don't work for them but my ADV's are all AiV. AiV set the bar for their niche in the vaping community, and they've worked hard getting there. They have an established customer base. They've carefully selected the B & M's they sell to and 1 other online vendor. I'd be just as supportive to a vape company facing the same situation, that I didn't purchase from, that had the support of many ECF members.

*opinion over* Just really pathetic that some poser company in El Paso can't stand on their own without stooping to cash in on another company's good name.:2c:
 

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It's not really cool to launch a crusade against a local vape shop.

*visions of Monty Python......"Spanish Inquisition"*
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"Crusade"? No, more of a "gentle nudge" that cashing in on a company's name "isn't really cool".

Your avi name is a good example. Say you used that on a "Sleuth"/"Crime" forum and made posts in the forensic's area....how would other people know that it was you or say this well know person?
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The idea of taking an established name and making a variation of it (in your case, it would be lower case letters) is just another ploy in the world of business to confuse consumers. Specially when that modified name is used in the same market, ie, vape merchants.:2c:
 

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The idea of taking an established name and making a variation of it (in your case, it would be lower case letters) is just another ploy in the world of business to confuse consumers. Specially when that modified name is used in the same market, ie, vape merchants.:2c:

I agree.

"Alice n vaPORland is a vape shop. Alice in Vapeland sells juices. We have rights to both names in the state of Texas."

This is the exact quote from their FB page. I don't think this is coincidence or a mistake, especially if this was an original idea. Frankly, if they were selling AiV juices, I would have actually gone to check them out.
 

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I agree.

"Alice n vaPORland is a vape shop. Alice in Vapeland sells juices. We have rights to both names in the state of Texas."

This is the exact quote from their FB page. I don't think this is coincidence or a mistake, especially if this was an original idea. Frankly, if they were selling AiV juices, I would have actually gone to check them out.

Yep, they sell juices, and further down on their feed they talk of going on the internet. They also posted that the only thing Google brought up was "Alice in Vapeland-UK"........yeah, right. That is or was one of the vendors AiV supplied to overseas.

If it WAS THEIR original idea, why the cannibalized company name? "Alice n Vaporland"? They made 4 changes from "Alice in Vapeland", does that quantify it as an original name? I am totally ignoring some of their upper case letters.........

That duck isn't barking, it's quacking.......
 
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