Introducing The Precise from Super-T!!!

[BrockJ]

Maybe not get into the whole juice / atty thing but just enough batts to offer them with the devices so there's no misconception of your intended battery use.
Could even be a good thing..

I just hate to have to order from across the pond. I'd much rather spend my money here at home.

 

[RIMP]

Me too Does aw make 10440's
RIMP

 

[raqball]

AW does make 10440 but they are branded as Soshine and they are NOT protected....

 

[forcedfuel50]

I've wanted to try some aw batteries, do they last noticeably longer then trust/ultra fires?

 

[RIMP]

AW does make 10440 but they are branded as Soshine and they are NOT protected....

I have to have protected
RIMP

 

[hamsup1o]

Straight from AW on one of the flashlight forums..

I have a lot of request for a 10440 with a bigger nipple so it can work in the LF2XT. These soshine 10440 fits the bill and their performance are just as good.

AW

They do last slightly longer for me as well. I get about 3.5 to 4 hours with the Soshine vs. 2.5 to 3 hours with the Ultrafire. I also noticed that the batteries last longer in general when using the KR LP mod vs 510 LP mod.

 

[raqball]

I've wanted to try some aw batteries, do they last noticeably longer then trust/ultra fires?

I have not really noticed much of a difference in them vape time wise.... I always try and buy AW when I can mainly because the quality of them....

I am getting about 2 to 2 1/2 hours of heavy vaping from the AW 10440 (Soshine) compared to 1 1/2 to 2 hours with the *fire brands... With AW 14500 I get about 5 hours vape time compared to about 4 hours with the *fire brands...

Kris

 

[raqball]

I have to have protected
RIMP

Are you getting a S6? I thought that was what you were getting.... If so, AW sells a very nice protected 14500....

Check here --> http://www.lighthound.com/AW-14500-Protected-Rechargeable-Lithium-Battery_p_96.html

They are $10 each but they are high quality protected batteries that will work the in S6.... AW does not make a protected 10440 just the unprotected ones as of now...

Kris

 

[Woodawg]

ok, ... i've been using 2 of those unprotected 10440s heavily, on a mod with a resistor to bring them down to 5v (which should drain the battery even more right?) and i'm getting 3-3.5hrs. ...
buGG

I think some folks have the wrong impression of what a resistor does, it “resists” or “slows down” the flow of electrons in a conductive circuit. A fully charged battery has a capacity, essentially a quantity of electrons that want to move from the negative end into the positive end. An atomizer coil has resistance and will pass current (rate of electron flow) based upon the voltage applied to it.
When a resistor is connected in series, the value of it is added to the resistance of the coil. The total resistance in the circuit is increased thereby slowing the battery’s rate of discharge. Your battery will last longer but the atty will run cooler due to decreased current flow. It is the rate or speed of electrons moving through the coil that causes the heating due to friction.
Think of it like a tank of water with a spigot at the bottom. The further open the spigot, the less resistance to flow and the faster it will empty out. Voltage is a measure of electron pressure much like fluid pressure. Higher pressure (voltage) means higher flow rate through same size restriction whether it is a spigot, atty coil, or electrical resistor.
Since the voltage is divided between the resistor and the coil, varying the size of the resistor varies the amount of voltage remaining for the atty, too much voltage and it burns out, too little and it runs too cold. A high voltage (HV) atty has a higher resistance to keep current flow to a safe level.
Battery life will vary according to the devices overall current flow and duration of operation. If you are using a manual switch and are used to vaping at 6 volts; adding a resistor into the circuit for 5 volts may result in longer duration or more frequent switch activation thus a similar battery drain.

 

[BrockJ]

Very nice explanation Woodawg

Especially the spigot. I would have gone with a sluice gate but the spigot worked well.

I would have thought that in the "resisting" mode it would build resistance and therefore heat which would tend to increase the load. You're saying that it just becomes part of the total load thereby lessening the amount of draw on (in this case) the atty?
or - it doesn't make the atty or device draw more current, it's just a load shed of that current?

 

[buGG]

I think some folks have the wrong impression of what a resistor does, it “resists” or “slows down” the flow of electrons in a conductive circuit. A fully charged battery has a capacity, essentially a quantity of electrons that want to move from the negative end into the positive end. An atomizer coil has resistance and will pass current (rate of electron flow) based upon the voltage applied to it.
When a resistor is connected in series, the value of it is added to the resistance of the coil. The total resistance in the circuit is increased thereby slowing the battery’s rate of discharge. Your battery will last longer but the atty will run cooler due to decreased current flow. It is the rate or speed of electrons moving through the coil that causes the heating due to friction.
Think of it like a tank of water with a spigot at the bottom. The further open the spigot, the less resistance to flow and the faster it will empty out. Voltage is a measure of electron pressure much like fluid pressure. Higher pressure (voltage) means higher flow rate through same size restriction whether it is a spigot, atty coil, or electrical resistor.
Since the voltage is divided between the resistor and the coil, varying the size of the resistor varies the amount of voltage remaining for the atty, too much voltage and it burns out, too little and it runs too cold. A high voltage (HV) atty has a higher resistance to keep current flow to a safe level.
Battery life will vary according to the devices overall current flow and duration of operation. If you are using a manual switch and are used to vaping at 6 volts; adding a resistor into the circuit for 5 volts may result in longer duration or more frequent switch activation thus a similar battery drain.

i don't know the science of it. i do know from personal experience that using the same aw10440 unprotected 3.7v batteries in different mod applications (one with a built-in resistor, one without, same atty for both; and one without a built-in resistor but using different resistance hv atties) yield different results in terms of battery life/ apparent discharge rate. built in resistor mod gets about 3 hours, no resistor mod a little more but still in the 3 to 3.5hr range, and the low resistance atty can push a little more before the vapor drops off and i need to recharge that same battery.

the science behind all this stuff is very interesting, though still unclear to me. i'm just speaking from my own everyday experience with my own equipment. the aw's blow the trustfire/ ultrafire/spiderfire/campfire batteries out the water, but...there's no protected version of these aw's yet..and therefore not really advantageous for use with the precise. in terms of protected 14500's, cr123s, and 18650s, aw's are the best batteries in my opinion to design a pv around.

buGG

 

[RIMP]

Are you getting a S6? I thought that was what you were getting.... If so, AW sells a very nice protected 14500....

Check here --> AW 14500 Protected Rechargeable Lithium Battery

They are $10 each but they are high quality protected batteries that will work the in S6.... AW does not make a protected 10440 just the unprotected ones as of now...

Kris

Thanks raqball, I'm ordering some now Wanted aw to have protected 10440's as 'm also looking at the Precise for a future purchase
RIMP

 

[buGG]

It's AW as they are the exact same batteries I have... I believe Soshine and AW are made exactly the same and by the same company...

For some reason 10440 are called Soshine and 14500 and above are called AW....

Kris

there are differences...the 14250 and 10440 are the same, i don't think soshine makes a 14500, and the cr123a and 18650 batteries for soshine and aw are differrent in both dimensions and performance...but both solid nonetheless.

buGG

p.s. i do apologize for derailing this thread a bit...hope to get it back on track.

 

[pipes1]

OK
Back on track ----

Is my Precise done yet?

 

[raqball]

OK
Back on track ----

Is my Precise done yet?

Hahahaha...

Um.... Since we are asking, is mine done yet as well???

 

[BrockJ]

Bump to move this back to the top

 

[RamShot Rowdy]

My income tax return should be in next week and I plan on ordering one for my wife. Need to order some batteries too. I think she'll like it. Very cool looking device.

So I know the Precise is made for 510, does it include the adapters for both 901 and 801? I'm currently using 901s on my S6 and I've been real happy with them. I do plan on trying the 510 also though.

 

[BrockJ]

You can get one or the other (901 or 801) and they are the screw in adapters like you might find at heavens gifts, etc..

David's suppose to take a photo with the adapter attached and post it..

It is a nice looking machine. I'd like to see an all SS.

 

[raqball]

My income tax return should be in next week and I plan on ordering one for my wife. Need to order some batteries too. I think she'll like it. Very cool looking device.

So I know the Precise is made for 510, does it include the adapters for both 901 and 801? I'm currently using 901s on my S6 and I've been real happy with them. I do plan on trying the 510 also though.

Yup.... My S6 is coming with the 901 and my Precise was ordered with the 901 adapter as well!



Kris

 

[stgardner]

Here's another vote to see it in all stainless steel.