Irritated at work today - People and their opinions

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As long as there is no legal ban, the ability to restrict PV use is limited to the policy of the employer / and other Public places ..

If the employer has no formal policy, then by using a PV in that workplace, you encourage the implementation of a policy ..

If there is no formal policy, yet a supervisor asks you to not use the PV in the work space, and you continue to do so anyway, you risk alienation and being branded not a Team Player ..

The one thing that you can count on is, if there is no policy now, there will be one formulated sooner or later ..

So, the question you have to ask yourself : "Is it worth it .. ??" If you think it is, keep clouding it up until the policy comes down and you've succeeded in becoming a pariah ..
 

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Ya know it's funny what the mainstream media leads people to believe. If the person is persistent, print out some studies that debunk her claims and give her a chance to educate herself.

People are more apt to believe the crap mainstream media pushes than do real research for themselves. Truth is we have a Cure for Cancer - many of them - lots of ways to kill cancer without harming healthy tissue. These are documented in respected medical journals but the governments wont use them because that will shut down the money making machine between our governments and the pharmaceutical industry. This is an example, but I think a good one (and it's true) If people want to know the truth, it's out there, for every issue, they just have to dig. Those that aren't willing to dig are better off being ignored.
 

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Yeah, I didn't do anything to get it banned. I wasn't blowing it in anyone's face or sitting there cloud chasing or anything like that lol...hR was cool about it, but the new handbook does state smoking and ecigs must be used in designated smoking areas. Since I'm tucked away upstairs and have an entire lab to myself (IT) I still discretely do it - I think one guy saw my provari in my back pocket and inquired and after I showed it to him he went and said something. I'll continue to be very discrete and keep it at my desk as I don't want to cause a fuss about it


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Not everyone is like that. I vape all day at work wherever i like and i have even had people that never smoked saying they like it. Apparently i am a mobile air-freshener, which suits me fine.

They all asked what was in it so i told them and i asked them to find the same things in their toothpaste and shampoo! i don't bore them with 30A battery this and dual coil atty that; i just make sure i don't fog out the office when i am there and the warehouse - i do as i please!

The point is we get along just fine, with a little consideration by me, gaining a load of colleagues that go "we like it - it's no problem, if it's good enough for hospitals.., Trunker is not always outside smoking..."

Just a different way of addressing issues i suppose.

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So just recently I took an offer from my employer and now have my own facility. Our company policy, no thanks to the ####head who decided to chase clouds in the middle of the corporate office, is e-cigs are only allowed in designated smoking areas. So with that being said, my offices are 2400 miles away from corporate and are within the boundaries of a commercial airport so there is no designated smoking area. However I have, against company and airport policy, allowed smokers to smoke inside the warehouse and out of the prying eyes of airport security. Inside my office is myself and my coordinator and she doesn't smoke but loves the smell of my salted caramel and spiced cider juices so I vape in my facility. I also allow non-authorized personnel into the office to use our new bathroom instead of the blue box out on the corner of the ramp.

So with all of that being said two weeks ago there was a female crew member at my facility, she was a smoker and smoked non stop the entire time she was there. At one point she needed the facility so my coordinator buzzed her through the security door and I was sitting at my desk vaping on a carto (no big clouds). This crew member acted like I was shooting at her with supersonic hot lead, went into a 10 minute rant about how bad that was for me and so on. She then got all bent out of shape because we do not have separate men's and women's facilities. Well there are just two of us in the office and one bathroom works just fine but whatever.

So two days later I get an e-mail from HR at corporate requesting a phone meeting. I made the appointment, made the call and was written up for vaping in my office because there was a complaint filed by a crew member. We now have a new policy at my facility, absolutely no one except myself and my coordinator are allowed inside EVER, there is no smoking allowed anywhere on the property, they can walk the 1/2 mile to the security gate, go through all the security stuff and smoke out in the parking lot and now we have a separate men's and women's restroom, they are matching blue boxes with the appropriate signs on the doors. So now whenever crew comes in who had been there when I was more relaxed I just tell them that someone decided to drop a dime on me for my lax policies and because of that I have to adhere to all of them to the letter. Even the crew member who caused the uproar was in Sunday and tried to light up in the warehouse till it was pointed out to her that there are no smoking signs everywhere. She then walked up to the window and asked Lisa to buzz her in so she could use the restroom and again she was shown the sign on the door and pointed to the matching blue boxes.
 

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So, in a nutshell you're angry because you got caught ..

Nope, in a nutshell I'm saying that I let people bend the rules to satisfy their habit and one of those people who took advantage of those bent rules turned that against me and now they all get to obey all the rules.
 

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Nope, in a nutshell I'm saying that I let people bend the rules to satisfy their habit and one of those people who took advantage of those bent rules turned that against me and now they all get to obey all the rules.

Well, from me, a guy that knows the corporate culture fairly well, it's no surprise .. give and inch, take a mile .. ;)

And you are the Boss, after all .. and Corporates rep, even though 2400 miles away .. ;)
 
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