Just curious - why not? Not trying to start anything, just wondering what your take is on MBV even though you've never tried them.
Is ahlusion really worth all the grief
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Just curious - why not? Not trying to start anything, just wondering what your take is on MBV even though you've never tried them.
Thanks, I am not saying I wont ever order from them but I agree with the OP about a lot things. It amazes me how fanatical and defensive people get on here about different juices/vendors. Maybe I am just so new that I don't "get it" yet but at this point I have ordered from three vendors so far and had NO issues save for trying to order from alusion. The comment about making buying from ahlusion a priority in ones day literally made me spit up my coffee.
Maybe when I am retired I will make buying something from an online vendor a priority but for now when I am work that is my priority. I am loving my Halo juices and hopefully will have a package waiting for me when I get home from some place called Fuzion.
Hope you find the flavors and vendor you're looking for OP!
I think people get defensive about vendors because these businesses are small enough that it's easy to develop a personal relationship with the owners. They see people they like and/or respect getting put down when they know they're doing their best and trying hard to make vapers happy. It's especially frustrating seeing when people are accusing vendors of false motives when you know that's not the case.
I personally don't feel bothered by complaints against Ahlusion because frankly, they're overworked. They don't need word of mouth for even more business and negative press isn't going to hurt them either. Their customers already know how great their juice is someone who's looks for great juice will eventually hear of them. I'm selfish, I'd rather them not be bombarded by new orders so they can work on making new juice while pleasing current fans.
Now getting defensive about specific juices, that I don't get. Why would I care if someone slams my favorite juices; they are saying the juice sucks for them, not that I suck for liking it.
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Nothing against them, they offer a fantastic service for new vapers. I had no idea what was good when I started so I went to the cheapest American vendor, which was Madvapes at the time. Some juices where OK, some where terrible, and when I moved on I never looked back. Realized later there are many "generic" vendors who offer a whole lot of the same flavors using the same flavorings (TPA, Loranns, etc), so they don't offer much in the way of uniqueness. The fruits generally taste like candy (since candy flavoring is used) and the tobacco is the same arti-baccos that hundreds offer.
From what I understand, MBV is another vendor of that mold. Doesn't matter how well they mix those same flavorings I've had before, it won't be new to me, so no reason to order. That juice isn't old news to new vapers so they should check it out.
There are many vendors that make their own flavors in a lab or by extractions, those are the vendors that have something new to offer me. Once in a while I'll hear of a new vendor doing great things with generic flavorings (Fuzion comes to mind) and I'll check them out.
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I feel the same way Jerms, but with the free sample they offer I just order a big bottle of what I love and knock another flavor off of my "must try" list.
The only problem is I really like all samples too.......so I just need big bottles of everything.
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Thanks, I am not saying I wont ever order from them but I agree with the OP about a lot things. It amazes me how fanatical and defensive people get on here about different juices/vendors. Maybe I am just so new that I don't "get it" yet but at this point I have ordered from three vendors so far and had NO issues save for trying to order from alusion. The comment about making buying from ahlusion a priority in ones day literally made me spit up my coffee.
Maybe when I am retired I will make buying something from an online vendor a priority but for now when I am work that is my priority. I am loving my Halo juices and hopefully will have a package waiting for me when I get home from some place called Fuzion.
Hope you find the flavors and vendor you're looking for OP!
I am not even defending them specifically, I just don't think anyone should get worked up over any of the juice vendors that close early. If I don't like someone's business practices, I don't do business with them. It's not like there is only one place to buy most of this stuff.
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I tried MBV once due to all the hype..... Wish I had not. I believe Jerms is well justified regardless of the reason.
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I feel the same way Jerms, but with the free sample they offer I just order a big bottle of what I love and knock another flavor off of my "must try" list.
The only problem is I really like all samples too.......so I just need big bottles of everything.
I've accepted my must-try list from them is their entire menu lol. Each juice is just so unique and well thought-out, they've shown me I can like certain flavors I thought I didn't like when done really well.
I order from many vendors, so Ahlusion is putting out new juices faster then I can try the ones they have. A good problem for me to have.
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I wasn't asking him to "justify" his opinion - just wondering if he'd heard something bad or I dunno. Like I said, not trying to start something. I actually agree with his explanation. I am also looking for something different and unique, but in the meantime, I like using cheaper juice to determine what kind of flavors I like (especially since my vaping tastes seem to differ completely from my taste in food!)
I have to say that I am also frustrated with the Ahlusion store hours. But hey, I can order somewhere else - though I'm still compelled to try Tiramisu SOMEHOW, lol.
I see so often people who start with MBV and like it, later say they tried other vendors and then found out how good juice can taste. If someone starts with MBV and loves them, if they want to stay satified with them it's best not to stray.
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The cheaper juices can help a little in figuring out what direction you want to go, but won't help much in figuring out which specific flavors you may like to vape. I thought I hated apple vapes for over a year. Realized later I love apple vapes, just hated Madvape's apple lol.
It's not what a juice is about, it's how it is about it.
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Bingo! Do you get pissy when Walgreens or CVS for closing? That's rhetorical and aimed at no specific person. Just because it's the internet doesn't mean one has to leave their doors open 24/7.
Several people have said that. I'll say it too. Ahlusion e-liquid is well worth what some people are calling a hassle. The company is one of the best e-liquid vendors in the world, in my opinion. Playing the hypothetical game, if for some reason I could only order from one e-liquid company for the rest of my vaping life, I would choose Ahlusion.
There are several Ahlusion juices I really, really like, and I now order large bottles of my few faves every month. I've noticed that this sort of order ships out much faster than my earlier attempts, which contained a great many small bottles of different things. So yeah - it does get easier.
Having said that, I'll also say that I think the hype really is pretty excessive - not just about Ahlusion, but about a lot of vape-related products. (How could it not be, all things considered?) But then, I've come to the conclusion that people actually enjoy creating hype - that it makes the hobby experience more exciting somehow - and that that's fine. So long as people aren't spending more than they can comfortably afford, or scaring off new vapers, who cares?
That sort of thing used to bug me no end, I'll admit, but I guess I've mellowed recently. Maybe it's just that I've now been vaping for nearly a year, and no longer worry that I'll start smoking again if I can't find magical juices that deliver a dozen orgasms a day? I dunno. I'm now quite happy with the idea that there are a lot of interesting vendors, and that trying new ones is an enjoyable part of the hobby, even if every purchase doesn't turn out to be a life-changing experience.
Having said that, I'll also say that I think the hype really is pretty excessive - not just about Ahlusion, but about a lot of vape-related products. (How could it not be, all things considered?) But then, I've come to the conclusion that people actually enjoy creating hype - that it makes the hobby experience more exciting somehow - and that that's fine. So long as people aren't spending more than they can comfortably afford, or scaring off new vapers, who cares?
That sort of thing used to bug me no end, I'll admit, but I guess I've mellowed recently. Maybe it's just that I've now been vaping for nearly a year, and no longer worry that I'll start smoking again if I can't find magical juices that deliver a dozen orgasms a day? I dunno. I'm now quite happy with the idea that there are a lot of interesting vendors, and that trying new ones is an enjoyable part of the hobby, even if every purchase doesn't turn out to be a life-changing experience.
They actually just changed their walk-in hours last week to provide even faster Internet business. They used to be open 5 days a week, now they're only open 3 days. Doesn't bother me any, I just roll with it.
And they do have some fantastic NET's.
To the OP:
yep, definitely worth whatever "grief" there is to order from Ahlusion. I've seen worse "grief" from some other "hyped" vendors.
yep, definitely worth whatever "grief" there is to order from Ahlusion. I've seen worse "grief" from some other "hyped" vendors.
The first time I tried to order from Ahlusion they were slammed - there was a lively thread about them in here and a lot of appreciation and scramble was going around. I was irritable too when I couldn't place the order right away. It took a long time coming, too - couple of weeks. I was used to a much faster turnaround time.
So really, I'd have rather not have loved the juice as much as I did.
Some people are going to love Ahlusion - it might be most appealing to long-time vapers who really do recognize right off that it's not the same old flavoring (Wlad manufactures 80% of his flavorings himself). But that's not true for all longtime vapers.
For some people it's really not worth it not to have 24/7 fast turnaround in-your-mailbox-in-three-days service no matter what. I can see that.
Others may not find the stuff particularly to their liking, that's inevitable; others won't bother to try it, that's cool.
Really it's very like buying tea or coffee online. I'd cope with whatever to purchase my favorite coffee beans online, even if the service was slow because that coffee vendor liked to nap a lot (not the case with Ahlusion). My daughter thinks that's ridiculous, she likes her K-cups. I get that, they're mad convenient and she doesn't even like my French pressed excesses.
So it's no good saying "it's worth it", because it may not be worth it to someone else.
That doesn't mean those of us who are delighted are idiots who buy hype (not a lot of hype and no jazzed up packaging gimmicks etc. from Ahlusion itself, actually - just, cobalt glass dropper bottles which protect from light and don't leach plastic, and dated labels with ingredient info, sensible stuff like that). Kropotkin is right that after a while (3 years+ for me) you come to expect the hype, know that it's part of the fun and sometimes not indicative of quality. You come to know what you care about and what you don't after a while, and that's different for everyone.
It also doesn't mean that it's crass to be perfectly pleased with the many good vendors who may be open all the time and mix fine eliquids. I can think of several that I'd recommend with pleasure.
Bottom line is, you make purchasing decisions based on the factors that matter to you most. No point getting all ...... about it. It's not a standardized, mass-produced product like a cell phone (dread the day when it is, yes? Blu's trains undoubtedly run on time.)
THAT said - my recent orders have been placed at oddish hours and they've arrived much more quickly. And that's too long, company's at the door, no time to edit, forgive, just have fun.
So really, I'd have rather not have loved the juice as much as I did.
Some people are going to love Ahlusion - it might be most appealing to long-time vapers who really do recognize right off that it's not the same old flavoring (Wlad manufactures 80% of his flavorings himself). But that's not true for all longtime vapers.
For some people it's really not worth it not to have 24/7 fast turnaround in-your-mailbox-in-three-days service no matter what. I can see that.
Others may not find the stuff particularly to their liking, that's inevitable; others won't bother to try it, that's cool.
Really it's very like buying tea or coffee online. I'd cope with whatever to purchase my favorite coffee beans online, even if the service was slow because that coffee vendor liked to nap a lot (not the case with Ahlusion). My daughter thinks that's ridiculous, she likes her K-cups. I get that, they're mad convenient and she doesn't even like my French pressed excesses.
So it's no good saying "it's worth it", because it may not be worth it to someone else.
That doesn't mean those of us who are delighted are idiots who buy hype (not a lot of hype and no jazzed up packaging gimmicks etc. from Ahlusion itself, actually - just, cobalt glass dropper bottles which protect from light and don't leach plastic, and dated labels with ingredient info, sensible stuff like that). Kropotkin is right that after a while (3 years+ for me) you come to expect the hype, know that it's part of the fun and sometimes not indicative of quality. You come to know what you care about and what you don't after a while, and that's different for everyone.
It also doesn't mean that it's crass to be perfectly pleased with the many good vendors who may be open all the time and mix fine eliquids. I can think of several that I'd recommend with pleasure.
Bottom line is, you make purchasing decisions based on the factors that matter to you most. No point getting all ...... about it. It's not a standardized, mass-produced product like a cell phone (dread the day when it is, yes? Blu's trains undoubtedly run on time.)
THAT said - my recent orders have been placed at oddish hours and they've arrived much more quickly. And that's too long, company's at the door, no time to edit, forgive, just have fun.
Well the purpose of this thread as indicated in the title was to hear from customers of Ahlusion and see if they felt the end product justified the the effort and inconvenience associated with their ordering process. Hey I have no problem with conforming to a companies hours of operation. However after three or four attempts (maybe it was just bad timing) at various times during their stated hours of operation and not being able to complete an order was becoming ridiculous. Now I realize what I am dealing with and my wish list has been compiled so that I can place my order without delay first thing on Tuesday morning when they re-open.
As many have suggested I have tried MTB and I was pleased. However Being able to try a vendor on the other end of the spectrum will provide a nice basis for comparison. Some interesting points were brought out about their business model and I now have a better understanding. Ultimately the proof is in the pudding or in this case the juice.LOL As the obvious was stated numerous times throughout this thread if I don't like it I can always move on to another vendor. However I will not saddle up Triger and gigiyup to another vendor till I give them a try
As many have suggested I have tried MTB and I was pleased. However Being able to try a vendor on the other end of the spectrum will provide a nice basis for comparison. Some interesting points were brought out about their business model and I now have a better understanding. Ultimately the proof is in the pudding or in this case the juice.LOL As the obvious was stated numerous times throughout this thread if I don't like it I can always move on to another vendor. However I will not saddle up Triger and gigiyup to another vendor till I give them a try
They are relatively unique and if I were you, I'd get an order in someday... same goes with alice in vapeland... or mad murdoch...
with that said, there are plenty of excellent vendors out there...
As much as liked Ahlusion... I gave up too... my first 3-4 orders went through easy... and cs was top notch... they rock and customize brilliantly... but after several attempts to make a 4th order I gave up...
other vendors that might give you a "wow" experience?
I am currently hot on: fuzion, vapetrik and moondrop... all top notch...
lastly, I do love ahlusion... and I pop on their site from time to time... should I ever be lucky enough to be able to order, I'll probably order 60mls of sweet chill and melon boba tea,,, and something new. their juice is as good as it gets.
with that said, there are plenty of excellent vendors out there...
As much as liked Ahlusion... I gave up too... my first 3-4 orders went through easy... and cs was top notch... they rock and customize brilliantly... but after several attempts to make a 4th order I gave up...
other vendors that might give you a "wow" experience?
I am currently hot on: fuzion, vapetrik and moondrop... all top notch...
lastly, I do love ahlusion... and I pop on their site from time to time... should I ever be lucky enough to be able to order, I'll probably order 60mls of sweet chill and melon boba tea,,, and something new. their juice is as good as it gets.
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Juice vendors are like restaurants in a lot of ways. I'm leery of empty restaurant parking lots at 6pm on a Friday night and the same holds true to a lesser degree for vendors in a lot of cases. There might be a reason they dont have much business.
As far as making them a priority in your day, I know that runs counter to the air of entitlement thats all too common nowadays but like anything else you get out what you put into it.
Im celebrating 7 months and counting totally off of cigarettes so it is a priority for me, even with juggling work, 14 credit hours and a family.
As far as making them a priority in your day, I know that runs counter to the air of entitlement thats all too common nowadays but like anything else you get out what you put into it.
Im celebrating 7 months and counting totally off of cigarettes so it is a priority for me, even with juggling work, 14 credit hours and a family.
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