Hello All. Thanks for the previous help I have received from you all in the past. I am well on my way with mixing my own juice with a PV base @ 72mg, near UK limit, down to 24mg 70pg-30vg and was wandering if there is a way of extracting the nicotine from the patches you stick on your arm. Never used them and have no intention of using them in the normal way as I am now a hardened vapor'er. I was thinking, if possible at all, it may be a simple case of putting the patches in some PV and warming for some time to extract the good stuff????? Has anyone any knowledge of this method or is it just not possible????? Thanks again and I know I am asking the right people. Cheers, Steve
Is it possible to extract nicotine from patches????????????
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Sounds like something I would do in desperation. 
It might be possible but not sure how you would do it without contaminating the extract with the other ingredients in a patch. Maybe if you could remove the sticky backing and started with only the part that contains the nic.
It might be possible but not sure how you would do it without contaminating the extract with the other ingredients in a patch. Maybe if you could remove the sticky backing and started with only the part that contains the nic.
At the present time here in da Colonies , it would be cost prohibitive. Should be 'cheaper' or possibly 'free' in '14...
Yes, it is possible. But you would need a chemistry lab to do it, isolate the nicotine and weigh it...to get a very small amount of nicotine for the money you would pay...and unless you have a degree in organic chemistry, you would probably get sick too.
Plus you would be giving profits to big pharma. From all angles, very bad idea.
Plus you would be giving profits to big pharma. From all angles, very bad idea.
Cheers for the replies people. The price is not a problem as they are free here in the UK.
The problem is that the UK government are thinking of limiting ALL e juice sales so that they can control the strength at a MASSIVE!!! 4mg/ml and the TAX.
As the patches are free and at 21mg, not sure how many mg in total or if it is just 21mg per patch then probably not worth it?, it may be worth a go. If there is a way of doing it with out a lab.
I might get one and de construct it. Hopefully there will be just some wadding inside holding the juice or whatever they use??
I could even call the company who makes them and ask what the total level of nic in each one is and what other crap, if any, is in them.
May be a total waste of time this, but it may well be a feasible thing to do.
Thanks again, Steve
The problem is that the UK government are thinking of limiting ALL e juice sales so that they can control the strength at a MASSIVE!!! 4mg/ml and the TAX.
As the patches are free and at 21mg, not sure how many mg in total or if it is just 21mg per patch then probably not worth it?, it may be worth a go. If there is a way of doing it with out a lab.
I might get one and de construct it. Hopefully there will be just some wadding inside holding the juice or whatever they use??
I could even call the company who makes them and ask what the total level of nic in each one is and what other crap, if any, is in them.
May be a total waste of time this, but it may well be a feasible thing to do.
Thanks again, Steve
That's why I have 3 120ml bottles of 60mg in the freezer and will add as funds allow.
That's also why I'm learning to DIY.
I'd say get as much as good clean nic as you can as soon as you can. snooze = lose
I agree with the others who say this is a bad idea. Your financial perspective makes sense, but I would be very concerned with not knowing the exact quantity of nicotine or what other ingredients were being extracted. The nicotine in the patches is not meant to be ingested, so it's hard to say what other chemicals are present that pose no danger in dermal applications, but wouldn't be healthy to vape.
I would also think the glue from the patches would mess up an atty pretty bad and stick to your teeth. I know this is a serious question so just ignore me.
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I really think buying nic liquid in bulk and freezing it is the better way to go. You can have 100 mg nic shipped from the US...might be less expensive than local 72 mg, but I don't know UK prices. WizardLab is ~$56 for 500 mL of 100 mg, and it is very good. You can get crazy pure nic from NicVape for $80 for the same amount. Not sure what overseas shipping would be.
Just did a google search for extracting nicotine from patches, and no method came up. Just a lot of "no you cannot do this". I have no idea how one could do this effectively, since the adhesives and special matrix compounds would likely also come along for the ride with most effective solvents, and it would be a major effort to work out the chemistry to separate them and verify pure nic in the end. Also majorly expensive, just for the analysis alone. Same would go for the gum and lozenge.
I think stocking up and storing well is the easiest, safest, and least expensive way to go. You could probably lower your nic level over time to stretch it out more if need be. Often this happens naturally when the nic is very very pure, like Wizard Ice, ExtremeVaping, or NicVape.
Just did a google search for extracting nicotine from patches, and no method came up. Just a lot of "no you cannot do this". I have no idea how one could do this effectively, since the adhesives and special matrix compounds would likely also come along for the ride with most effective solvents, and it would be a major effort to work out the chemistry to separate them and verify pure nic in the end. Also majorly expensive, just for the analysis alone. Same would go for the gum and lozenge.
I think stocking up and storing well is the easiest, safest, and least expensive way to go. You could probably lower your nic level over time to stretch it out more if need be. Often this happens naturally when the nic is very very pure, like Wizard Ice, ExtremeVaping, or NicVape.
Don't let nicotine get the upper hand. It's not worth doing all 'that' much. Wear the patch and vape nic free juice to curb the other addictive part of the habit, which is the actual physical act of smoking.
Vaping, to me, has never been an efficient way to get nicotine. It seems to have more of a placebo effect than an actual nicotine fix. It lacks the tar, which seems to add a more continuous (think time release) nicotine absorption rate. This could explain why so many people need to chain vape, yet can smoke cigarettes at greater intervals.
By the time you have been vaping any length of time, you should be able to drop the habit completely, a LOT easier than just coming off of cigarettes.
It's the fiendish addiction, the folks that are vaping ridiculous, or dangerous levels of nicotine, that will bring negative attention to it enough to raise concerns to those who would abolish it. All it takes is for someone to get injured or sick from it or display super addictive inclinations to get it banned.
Vaping, to me, has never been an efficient way to get nicotine. It seems to have more of a placebo effect than an actual nicotine fix. It lacks the tar, which seems to add a more continuous (think time release) nicotine absorption rate. This could explain why so many people need to chain vape, yet can smoke cigarettes at greater intervals.
By the time you have been vaping any length of time, you should be able to drop the habit completely, a LOT easier than just coming off of cigarettes.
It's the fiendish addiction, the folks that are vaping ridiculous, or dangerous levels of nicotine, that will bring negative attention to it enough to raise concerns to those who would abolish it. All it takes is for someone to get injured or sick from it or display super addictive inclinations to get it banned.
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