Is it really this easy? And other questions

[antony73]

I'm using MVPs, Protanks and rebuilding my own coils. With success. Though not with every coil, but I'm OK checking them before use, and even during their use.

More and more recently I am contemplating going down the Mech mod route, (as one poster commentated, "if you need to ask why, you'll never understand"). But not yet, I might add. There is much to learn before I jump in... namely, safety.

But is it really as easy as this...?

1) I enjoy 2.5 to 3.0 coils; 4.2v / 2.5ohms = 1.68amps (V/R=A). 1.68A is way under the AW 18650 battery's 10A discharge rate, so I'm fine. Even if I used an AW 18350, I'm still more than 50% under the 6A discharge rate.

And that's it? Just keep the amps (V/R) way under the discharge rate for safe vaping? This easy? Or am I way, way off and completely missing something?

Also, make sure the battery is not charged above 4.2v and don't let it drop below 3.3v.

2) Is there any way to double check the A on a battery. For example, how can I be sure an AW 18350 battery really is 6A? Or is that a stupid question?

3) What is the formula for working out how long I can use a battery without having to replace it? I've heard some say they use three batteries in one day!

4) Does chain vaping effect the safety of unprotected batteries? I can't see that it would if using only 20% of the discharge rate. Going up to 80%, yes, I see safety issues there.

Thank you so much!

 

[Jack NMI Stecker]

#1 Your numbers are correct. Wish more did the homework on that subject.
#2 There are no stupid questions. To my knowledge there is no freezable way for you and i to check to see if the battery claims are correct. But will tell you this don't buy any battery with the word "fire" in it and you will likely avoid a bogus battery.
#3 To know when you should change it on a Mech you need to get a voltage tester and when the voltage gets below 3.5 you need to swap it. Going below 3.4 volts may shorten the life of the battery. At least that is what I was told and I'm betting your MVP shuts off at like 3.4 volts.
#4 short answer no. I am a chain vaper. As long as you don't exceed the amperage rating and it does not get warm or hot you should be good. That being said if the Mech Mod gets warm then you may need to slow down. Depends on what resistance atty your working with. If the coil resistance gets below the resistance of the Mech it will get warm. But you have to go sub ohm for that.

 

[SeniorBoy]

I'm using MVPs, Protanks and rebuilding my own coils. With success. Though not with every coil, but I'm OK checking them before use, and even during their use.

More and more recently I am contemplating going down the Mech Mod route, (as one poster commentated, "if you need to ask why, you'll never understand"). But not yet, I might add. There is much to learn before I jump in... namely, safety.


3) What is the formula for working out how long I can use a battery without having to replace it? I've heard some say they use three batteries in one day!

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I will answer the bolded question above. First of all their is NO perfect MOD. ALL Mods have pluses and minuses. With respect to batteries and chargers: you don't want to skimp or take shortcuts. Real deal quality vendors who sell authentic batteries and chargers. Plenty of counterfeit stuff in the market place. Their is no formula for the life of a battery because their are way to many variables. With experience, you will know when your battery needs to be charged. Some variables which affect the life of battery:

- Dual coils consume more battery than a single coil
- The resistance of your head/coil effect your battery life. For example, .75 OHMS will consume significantly more battery than 2.0 OHMS
- The way you vape: Long deep lung hits/draws consume more battery than short draws
EDIT: - The amount of juice you consume in day. The higher your ML consumption of juice the more battery power you use in a given day. For example, cloud chasers might burn 10 ML of juice in a day and others may only burn 2 ML per day.

Lets talk safety. A basic mechanical is a NON regulated device with NO safety built in. Compare this to say a ProVari or numerous other quality regulated devices (VV/VW) which have chips to prevent shorts and other safety features. Generally speaking, a quality regulated MOD in the context of my thoughts is significantly safer than a basic non regulated Mechanical. Yes, you can add a measure of safety to some Mechanicals via a "Kick" which we have recently discussed. EDIT: Even with a Kick in a mechanical you still do not have as much "granular" control and easy of use as a quality regulated mod. If you chase "flavor" and your taste buds have fully recovered, I can taste the difference between 4.0 Volts and say 3.5 volts or 4.5 volts or any increment of 0.2 volts and I can set this via a few or many clicks of my regulated mod as opposed to taking the mechanical apart and turning the dial on my kick. For some it's a non event and for others it's critical. Finally, even with a Kick in a mechanical, you do not have all the safety features you would find in a quality regulated MOD. For example and this actually happened to me, stand the Mechanical up and if it fires their is NO auto shut off like you would find on any quality regulated MOD. Fortunately, I was not far away and then I reached for the Mechanical and it was very hot.

Mechanicals are very popular and I would consider them an "advanced" device and NOT well suited for the beginner. They are sexy as hell, cheap, have fewer "moving parts", some hold GIGANTIC clowd chasing batteries (26650) and a great solution for the appropriate kind of user providing they clearly understand the device and are comfortable with it. As you may have guessed, I own and use both types of devices.

HTH