Beautiful! Thank you! I haven't paid attention and I have no idea how the inside looks like. Definitely will do some research.
Is it safe to vape a FAKE Mech mod?
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Is it worth it? I personally wouldn't for any tube mech. There will be burrs from the drilling that you'll need to sand smooth, and if you miss one, that will surely tear your battery wrap........Thanks! Will look into!
This is concerning me really much with these mods. If the mod has no vent holes, should I drill my own? I did small amount of research and people recommend drilling them as large as possible and closer to the mech button on the sides.
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Well I saw posts asking the same question and they recommended checking if the button vents by pushing air inside. If it doesn't, then it's recommended to drill holes. Well I don't know, what you're saying is pretty logical when you think about it.
Didn't know those kinds existed, found them. Thanks!
1) as responsible vapers we dont buy off eBay, unless you own the original and know what your looking for.
2.) some people buy clones, but experienced users dont recommend hybrid mechs as your first mech mod, as they take an additional layer of knowledge. i.e., you have to be careful about which RDA you use with them or it will be your last time vaping (I don't know about your first choice but if memory serves me correctly the RIG v3 is a hybrid, granted the manufacturer couples it with a RDA, but on clones Lord only knows what your getting so you have to make sure of the RDA.
3) @lupinehorror might know some good clones for you.
4) I might suggest this as it's an inexpensive and decent clone that is not a hybrid mod which would give you some experience with a mechanical. HCigar Nemesis Mod Stainless (Its a clone made by HCigar, and owners said it's one of the best clones out there of the Nemesis)
5) Do more research into mechanical mods. No one buys mechs off eBay. You don't even seem to know about hybrids or why people avoid clones in the first place ... you need more knowledge overall.
Huge thanks for the info! Will check out the mods. I did some research about the hybrids, and the Apocalypse Gen 2 is a hybrid. Will do more research!
You would probably be better off with a counterfeit Smok Stick than a real one.
I don't buy mechanicals unless I can see them in person, disassemble them and really check them out. If I like what I see I will probably order it online if the price difference is substancial. Kind of a .... move, but so is charging a 200% markup. Haven't used or bought mechmods lately. I bought authentics when I did. I have had a couple for almost 5 years and they still work/look like new. If you get a good quality mechanical and take good care of it you will have it for years to come.
Absolutely. Otherwise, what you have is a potential pipe bomb in your hand. No matter how careful you might be, there is always that possibility that a short could occur and the battery will vent gas under pressure. If the gas can't escape, it literally becomes a pipe bomb.
If you don't have a drill press, I don't recommend attempting to use a hand drill. Ever try drilling a non-flat surface? Find someone that has a drill press.
A Beginner's Guide to Your First Mechanical Mod
A good authentic mech tube for entry into mechanicals I'd say would def be the Admiral. It hits nicely, very safe compared to others since the inside has a plastic case to help prevent battery shorts, but my main reason why it's great, even with experienced mech users is that it ramps quickly (hits hard). You might even look into to the Dreamer mech tube by Stan. That authentic is priced nicely also. Clones in the end are cheaper but they're produced cheaper. A lot of them can come with bad quality (weak) springs and might not even come with extra wear & tear parts that authentics come with. Clones have the outside look of originals but with less quality metal and materials. If you buy authentic anything, I find it's the best. But I don't know you're budget or what you're into. If you get lucky with a (good) clone and it makes you happy then that's what it's all about. It's cool that you're on that "fork in the road of vaping". I was there long ago. The Authentics vs Clones. Fun times back then and I learned a lot. I'm sure you'll like it too, good luck!
That's all and good, but does that plastic case inhibit the escape of gas to vent holes in the bottom of the tube? There must still be a pathway for gas to escape in case a battery decides to vent.
Batteries are designed to vent from the positive pole. Venting batteries can swell in diameter preventing the gas to escape past the battery, so vent hole should be located where the top of the battery is located.
Above is a mech which has a single vent hole in the bottom fire button, but notice there is no room for any gas to escape past the tight quarters of the battery to that vent hole. It is essentially an enclosed metal tube and therefore has inadequate venting.
Thanks! Will try finding someone with a drill press.
As I understand, the vent holes should be on top sides?
Haha thanks! Well I ordered the Apo 2, guess I'll check the quality (even though I have nothing to compare with
), since the brand name is marked as "SUB TWO".
They should be located just above where the top of the battery (positive end) is located. Use the below pic as a reference.Thanks! Will try finding someone with a drill press.
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It does. I double checked and took the top 510 cap of the Admiral off and blew through it. Air escapes.
Thank you!They should be located just above where the top of the battery (positive end) is located. Use the below pic as a reference.
There are tons of clone mech mods out there, and they don't seem to have a higher failure rate. Some of them are decent and hard to tell from authentics, others are terribly machined and awful. Read the reviews of any clone you are thinking of buying, you can often learn a lot from people who have used the one you're thinking of buying. I have a few clone mechs, that I bought before I decided that it's only authentics for me. Some of my tubes don't have venting holes but I have never had a battery vent....way more important a safety feature than holes is your head. If you feel your tube or button getting hot, put it down and let it cool. Heat will be your first warning of any problems. I am definitely not saying that lack of vent holes is 'safe', and I would always suggest that especially if you're new to tubes, that you use a mod with vent holes. I just wouldn't be paranoid about it. If you're planning to build 'stupid low', then for sure you want the 'safest' tube mod you can get. There are a lot of 'entry level' tube mods these days, with delrin liners and button venting. If your mod is designed to vent through the hole, I would suggest using your battery 'upside down'...with the positive pole to the button. As with anything, risk is part of deal, being vigilant is your best defense. Tube mods are incredibly simple, and while there are some really crappy clones out there, from what I have seen, it's usually the aesthetics of the mod that is really crappy, more than the actual design. In theory a clone has the exact same design as an authentic and therefore is as 'safe' or 'unsafe' as the authentic....provided it's a 'quality clone'. I have bought a few really nice authentics from local shops cheap, because few people seem to be buying tubes from shops these days. I got a $160 tube mod for $10 last year, because the shop owner 'just wanted it out of his shop after having it sit there with a $200 price tag for two years. It's one of my favorites. Good luck and be safe! Always use good, appropriate batteries in good shape...with a mech there is very little room for error.
Good luck and be safe! Always use good, appropriate batteries in good shape...with a mech there is very little room for error.
The reviews on the Apo 3 clone were... well, mixed..(?) I have a feeling there are more than one manufacturers of them. Most of Russians, who get the clone say it's c***, but the west part of the world mostly stays positive. Well, after all, this will be my first mod and I just liked the post-apocalyptic aspect of the design. I've only SEEN a mech mod in life, not actually used one, since everyone here stays with regulated ones. I guess I'll be my own quality judge.
Will stay above the CDR. Safety is #1 priority, after all.
I'm planning do stay between .2 and .3 ohms. Got some VTC4's and VTC5a's. (Although my VTC4's are kinda acting out, battery voltage jumping around a lot. I guess I'll have to get new ones when the stock is full again.)Will do my best, and huge thanks for the reply!
The reviews on the Apo 3 clone were... well, mixed..(?) I have a feeling there are more than one manufacturers of them. Most of Russians, who get the clone say it's c***, but the west part of the world mostly stays positive. Well, after all, this will be my first mod and I just liked the post-apocalyptic aspect of the design. I've only SEEN a mech mod in life, not actually used one, since everyone here stays with regulated ones. I guess I'll be my own quality judge.
Will stay above the CDR. Safety is #1 priority, after all.
Will do my best, and huge thanks for the reply!
The worrying part is not staying above the CDR of the battery. Anyone can do that.
It's the uncontrollables. For example, if there are no vent holes and you put some in yourself; like someone mentioned you could leave behind burrs and tear the battery wrap. Your battery could short against the inside of the tube.
From what I saw, and if I remember, it's also a hybrid. What happens if the threading gives out and when you push the button it pops your RDA off, contacts the top of the tube, and shorts itself.
We don't know what the switch looks like. What happens if the magnet or spring is garbage and the thing autofires?
These questions aren't limited to clones. We ask them for every mod we buy. But the difference is usually when we buy things there's enough material and reviews to look at those factors.
I'm not trying to dissuade you from buying. I'm just saying that proper battery safety is not going to make it 100% safe.
Be diligent.
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