Is my vaping making my dog ill ?

[Jonny2400]

Guys thanks for all your replies

I still think it might be vaping related, as i have tired everything

Blood tests , check
Allergy tests, check
Specialist food only, check
Foot washing, check
Special boots for walking, check
Bottled water, check

He is only a wee light King Charles cav (9kg) the cysts never go away, the are aways busting, he limps around all day, aways licking them, we can't even let him go for his normal walks anymore.

Now I used to work long days, but the last 3 weeks I've been at home with him and the are worst they have ever been... So have to at least try the no vaping indoor rule .

 

[NotoriousJDP]

I started vaping at my friends booboo's house and the dog started humpin the lazy boy.

lol...this guy is too funny!

Stop it...you just made me choke on my vapor

 

[CommaHolly]

aw, poor puppy

it might be time to think about a specialist,,,,,,,,

and check his food ingredients,,,,,if corn is the first one, GET RID OF IT.

 

[SissySpike]

Guys thanks for all your replies

I still think it might be vaping related, as i have tired everything

Blood tests , check
Allergy tests, check
Specialist food only, check
Foot washing, check
Special boots for walking, check
Bottled water, check

He is only a wee light King Charles cav (9kg) the cysts never go away, the are aways busting, he limps around all day, aways licking them, we can't even let him go for his normal walks anymore.

Now I used to work long days, but the last 3 weeks I've been at home with him and the are worst they have ever been... So have to at least try the no vaping indoor rule .

Just out of interest would you PM me in a few weeks and let me know if not Vaping around your dog fixes the problem? As I stated in my first post I hope it is the problem as its a easy fix. He could possibly be having a reaction to VG, PG, flavoring, and or nicotine. You just never know. Good luck I feel for the little guy.

EDIT: A after thought I think people tend to panic when anyone posts anything that could be considered bad about vaping. Just because this guys dog could be having a reaction dose not mean vaping is bad. I think we need all of the information. If it turns out some animals might have a reaction we could save their owners some worry and expense not to mention the poor animal from suffering with a little knowledge.
I think it would be naive to think vaping will never have negative side affects to everyone and everything. Some people and animals will have a undesirable reaction it just how things work.

 

[CommaHolly]

Just out of interest would you PM me in a few weeks and let me know if not Vaping around your dog fixes the problem? As I stated in my first post I hope it is the problem as its a easy fix. He could possibly be having a reaction to VG, PG, flavoring, and or nicotine. You just never know. Good luck I feel for the little guy.

EDIT: A after thought I think people tend to panic when anyone posts anything that could be considered bad about vaping. Just because this guys dog could be having a reaction dose not mean vaping is bad. I think we need all of the information. If it turns out some animals might have a reaction we could save their owners some worry and expense not to mention the poor animal from suffering with a little knowledge.
I think it would be naive to think vaping will never have negative side affects to everyone and everything. Some people and animals will have a undesirable reaction it just how things work.

good point. My daughter is allergic to strawberries,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,it doesn't mean strawberries are bad.

 

[Myk]

EDIT: A after thought I think people tend to panic when anyone posts anything that could be considered bad about vaping. Just because this guys dog could be having a reaction dose not mean vaping is bad. I think we need all of the information. If it turns out some animals might have a reaction we could save their owners some worry and expense not to mention the poor animal from suffering with a little knowledge.
I think it would be naive to think vaping will never have negative side affects to everyone and everything. Some people and animals will have a undesirable reaction it just how things work.

I don't think that is it at all. The OP mentioned nicotine, problem is testing isn't showing any appreciable amount of nicotine in the exhaled vapor. I don't understand why it wouldn't be there (because the amount we take in is also not showing up in our blood) but that's what tests are showing.
PG/VG possibly, nicotine no.
But as someone pointed out since it's only on the fronts that points to it being digging if an allergy issue because PG/VG build up on the floor would hit all four.

Interdigital cysts are just one in the long list of problems the CKC has. Could it be possible that vaping is aggravating the problem in spaniels? Possible, but not likely since there are plenty around with these problems who've never seen vaping.
If it was my dog, and it has been with my hunting dog who was a spaniel with all the spaniel problems, I would be looking at the food and vaccines.

For the OP, if "Specialist food" means the stuff the vets sell that says nothing. Read the label. There are a lot of low cost foods that qualify as good food and a lot of high cost foods that are junk. The one I feed is a farm store brand that costs no more than regular Purina. (I feed it because of glucosamine not the lack of corn. The specialty food I started with that had glucosamine was more expensive and loaded with corn. This was cheaper, better ingredients and had the glucosamine. I'm not really against corn but when talking issues that spaniels have it is one of the first places to look.)

 

[SissySpike]

I don't think that is it at all. The OP mentioned nicotine, problem is testing isn't showing any appreciable amount of nicotine in the exhaled vapor. I don't understand why it wouldn't be there (because the amount we take in is also not showing up in our blood) but that's what tests are showing.
PG/VG possibly, nicotine no.
But as someone pointed out since it's only on the fronts that points to it being digging if an allergy issue because PG/VG build up on the floor would hit all four.

Interdigital cysts are just one in the long list of problems the CKC has. Could it be possible that vaping is aggravating the problem in spaniels? Possible, but not likely since there are plenty around with these problems who've never seen vaping.
If it was my dog, and it has been with my hunting dog who was a spaniel with all the spaniel problems, I would be looking at the food and vaccines.

For the OP, if "Specialist food" means the stuff the vets sell that says nothing. Read the label. There are a lot of low cost foods that qualify as good food and a lot of high cost foods that are junk. The one I feed is a farm store brand that costs no more than regular Purina. (I feed it because of glucosamine not the lack of corn. The specialty food I started with that had glucosamine was more expensive and loaded with corn. This was cheaper, better ingredients and had the glucosamine. I'm not really against corn but when talking issues that spaniels have it is one of the first places to look.)

wich is why I wrote this

Just out of interest would you PM me in a few weeks and let me know if not Vaping around your dog fixes the problem? As I stated in my first post I hope it is the problem as its a easy fix. He could possibly be having a reaction to VG, PG, flavoring, and or nicotine. You just never know. Good luck I feel for the little guy.

To be honest I have no Idea what the problem is, that is why I did not give any advise. Ive seen people being accused of being a BT BP plant for posting a negative side affect thread about vaping. Some people tend to go overboard and not even consider vaping can have some ill side affects.
I dont have any this far but it dose not mean the next guy wont. Just sayen

 

[Myk]

wich is why I wrote this
To be honest I have no Idea what the problem is, that is why I did not give any advise. Ive seen people being accused of being a BT BP plant for posting a negative side affect thread about vaping. Some people tend to go overboard and not even consider vaping can have some ill side affects.
I dont have any this far but it dose not mean the next guy wont. Just sayen

I have a reaction to PG so I wouldn't write it off. Although my reaction wasn't growing masses between my toes

 

[patkin]

There are allergy-prone humans and pets. Some have contact allergies and some have systemic ones and some both. Over my life-time, I've had twenty or so pets and only two have had allergies and I currently live with them. They're systemic in them and follow the same pattern my own do seasonally. I don't have food ones but my dog does. As with all of the allergy-prone, the number of substances we have symptoms with increases as well as the number of seasons. My dog has progressed to all year long. What I'm saying is, if this is an allergy, you could find and eliminate the offending substance and a new problem one could crop up at any time. My daugher has contact ones and that's the case with her. But, truthfully, without knowing what kind of cysts you're talking about I would be leery of it being allergy unless the original rash created by the allergen/immune system became irritated by licking. You don't say where on the feet the cysts are. If between the toes, that's a perfect breeding ground for bacteria which could cause pustules "cysts." Or are these "cysts" hard and under the skin more like nodules? What meds does the vet have the dog on? Sorry to hear this and would really like more info as I do live with two allergy-prone pets. And, btw, allergy-prone pets can have reactions to insects too... some species of fleas and ticks and their feces that could be in your yard and you may never find a tic or flea on the animal. But, again, it usually shows up as a rash that can blister and progress to bacterial infection of course.

Edit: I just saw your other post. My dog is a King Charles Cavalier and the first allergy-prone dog I've had. She has air-borne, contact and food allergies. Her nose begins to drip wildly during allergy seasons but is getting to all year long now. I have to be very careful about what she eats and what goes on her skin. There are no preventitive tic or flea substance I can use on her. The other is a cat and her allergy only affects her eyes with tearing. I've been vaping for 8 months now and, so far, neither is affected by my vapor. That's not to say they won't start showing symptoms from it, as well might I, but so far, so good.

 

[Jonny2400]

Again thanks all the replies.

Ill like to point out, I am a massive supporter of ecigs, however they are still new and we don't know all the effects fully.

But my research is pointing towards my wee guy having this : Atopy (allergic inhalant dermatitis)

 

[SissySpike]

I have a reaction to PG so I wouldn't write it off. Although my reaction wasn't growing masses between my toes

lets hope not! On the other end we also see all sorts of silly things being blamed on vaping so it goes both ways.

 

[ImThatGuy]

Please read through the links. It's only his front paws, so, it's not environmental, if it was, all paws would show, after all...he walks using all his paws. It's only his front paws, it's not any allergy since it would show in all of its extremities. It's a cyst - pimple like - have you ever had an ingrown hair that was in a pimple? Well ingrown hairs is often recognized as a foreign body, which causes your body to respond in a way that will eject it. This is why the site becomes inflamed and can result in a pimple if it is not addressed immediately. It looks cystic, but actually it is a whitehead (pus and keratin). The links do say that short haired dogs commonly get it.

Paw Cyst Is Common In Heavy-bodied Dogs - Chicago Tribune

http://www.wiki-pet.com/health/dog/condition/index.php?condition_id=435&name=toe+cysts

Advised by my vet uncle and vet cousin...

 

[the_maiden_fair]

My big baby has had no new issues since I started vaping. She has always had seasonal allergies with paws and sometimes ears each fall. It does not get any worse or better since vaping. I do give her nzymes, and it seems to help some, no miracle cure for her illnesses, but it seems to improve her some. She also gets completely grain free food, and supplements for arthritis. The vet was actually very pleased with how spry she was at the last visit, being 70 in doggie years! So I guess we are doing something right.

I hope it is not a vaping issue, but if it is, please let us know so we can keep our pets safe!

 

[Butters78]

Cat flavored e juice is a win!

 

[Butters78]

 

[Barbara21]

Please read through the links. It's only his front paws, so, it's not environmental, if it was, all paws would show, after all...he walks using all his paws.
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Hmmm, a puzzle. Actually we can't say it's not environmental. For example, dogs *dig* with their front paws. So his front paws could have been exposed to something his back paws were not. Unlikely maybe but you can't automatically disregard environmental factors.

OP - Let me make sure I understand this correctly. His problem only affects his front paws?? He has no other symptoms at all?? The 'cysts' themselves - I seem to remember (without re-reading this entire thread) you saying something about them 'bursting'. Am I remembering this correctly? If so, I assume they had pus inside. Blood too? You said he limps so I guess they're painful. Painful all the time or only when they burst? Does he 'chew' on his paws?? How does the skin and fur look, both on his paws and elsewhere? Do the cysts seem to occur in bunches or just one or two at a time. Do they come and go or does he pretty much have them all the time?

My brother-in-law is a dermatologist (to humans) and also a dog lover. I want to talk with him about this.

 

[Rocketpunk]

This is very, very true. When my grandfather passed earlier this month, I got the phone call... I melted down. My piggies are usually busy popcorning and running around in their cage during the morning. Nope, as soon as the first gasp left my mouth they darted into their hidey tubes and stayed there for the bulk of the day. I would hesitate to call them "telepathic", but pets are genuinely empathetic.

People often laugh at the stress in pets thing making them have odd illnesses/reactions. I can assure you it is no joke.

Starting about 1 year before my divorce and going right though the point my ex moved out my cat was literally ripping her own fur out. She was BALD absolutely everywhere she could reach (that was about 90% of her body). We tried everything the vet suggested. The cone around the neck? Nope she could get out of it in 3 seconds flat. Steroids. You name it.

Ex moved out and the fur started growing back in. She never did it again.

Animals key into us and our life rhythms. Something gets disrupted and make no mistake they DO know.

 

[Rocketpunk]

Holy shnikes, EricHill, you slide these in here like you OWN IT. You do, man, you do, and props to you for your perfectly appropriate pic and vid responses. Oh, EricHill, you make my time on ECF worthwhile.

 

[patkin]

My Cavy blows her coat when stressed. And all my animals know when I'm stressed and try to comfort me. Whether its from a change in my tone, my unusual behavior or telepathy, I don't know but its very obvious they know. Animals observe us much more than we do them and are acutely aware of our behaviors. My chihuahua has a "vocabulary" of between 20 and 30 words and can pick one she knows from the middle of a sentence when she appears not to even be listening. With some words, like "ride" we have to spell them just as if there was a child in the room.

 

[crxess]

Guys thanks for all your replies

I still think it might be vaping related, as i have tired everything

Blood tests , check
Allergy tests, check
Specialist food only, check
Foot washing, check
Special boots for walking, check
Bottled water, check

He is only a wee light King Charles cav (9kg) the cysts never go away, the are aways busting, he limps around all day, aways licking them, we can't even let him go for his normal walks anymore.

Now I used to work long days, but the last 3 weeks I've been at home with him and the are worst they have ever been... So have to at least try the no vaping indoor rule .

Please be prepared for the worst possibility. It could be YOU he is reacting to. Not that you are doing anything out of the ordinary. As stated, animals do key on us. Good or bad it happens and unless discovered and confirmed the problems will continue.
Food, Carpet/floor cleaners, detergents and aerosol sprays would be more suspect. Digging issues?

You seem genuinely concerned. I would look for another professional to review all test and give a second opinion.